Chappell Should be Sacked...

[talksport]

Immediately.
One more performance like this World Cup or No World Cup.

Chappel is no F**king motivator and a poor strategist

Its the Team that wins it and the Coach that loses it

[gator]

what will anyone ****ing do, when a certain ****ing vengsarkar thrusts 4 losers like kaif, raina, mongia and jaffer out of 6 batsmen....

[mad_max]

As much as i would like to blame this on Chappel..i can't...most outs today were due to batsmen mistakes......it seems that Indians players have forgotten how to play anything with pace, that moves, and is short. Apart from Tendulkar and Dravid nobody seemed to play....I don't know what Chappel can do about this....we are always talking about getting a bowling coach, now it seems as if we need a batting coach.

One thing i didn't like about him today was that he was reading a novel....what the ****...shouldn't he be taking notes or something.

[gator]

if he starts taking notes for performances like these, it will become a novel....

[kabira]

Its not the easiet pitch to start your tour..

I remember few years back even SA struggle in Durban..remember that Prasad spell...they were coming back from long Indian tour and even though home they struggled big time.

Our team should have arrived 15 days before the first game and played few more practice games..

[gator]

u r talking as if holding, mcgrath, marshall and donald were bowling today on a greentop....

it was jus 128 kph polly, out of sort ntini, over-rated Nel, and kallis.....

jesus christ, stop defending those *****s, man....

[Sooda]

Yeah a few more pactice games would have been ideal

Greg cant be sacked before the WC ..itll screw things up even worse. But he is the batting coach right. WTF is he doing ...weve gone backwards man

[gator]

so u want Greg to teach batting to Raina and kaif?

[kabira]

>jesus christ, stop defending those *****s

SAcan bowling was excellent..they knew what to do..kept it short.

all of batsman barring Sachin and Dravid struggled with extra bounce..Kaif, Raina, Mongia, Dhoni all victim of extra lift..

[Gambit]

Missed Veeru and Yuvraj today.

[shwetabh]

if he starts taking notes for performances like these, it will become a novel....

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[gator]

here is to the one who missed veeru and yuvi....


Sehwag instead of jaffer - Polly bowls the same incutter... Jaffer inside edges on to stumps... Sehwag bowled through the gate...

Yuvi instead of Mongia - harmless deivery angling away outside off... Yuvi with his flourishing backlift goes for the full-blooded cover drive which makes him look like a hero.... edge, second slip, smithy and nel are seen rejoicing....

Score 60/5...

[Gambit]

gator, if you memory serves you well, you will remember who saved us when we were 5/3 against the same Saffie attack on an atypical seaming Hyderabad pitch. Please look it up if you have forgotten.

[gator]

Gambo, what were they doing then in the CT and DLF cup and in west indies losses.....

[Predator_05]

I have to admit, i am becoming more and more annoyed with Chappell and Dravid. Ultimately, it's the team's performance on the field which counts no matter what the coaching staff do in the nets. Fair enough, but don't you guys expect BETTER from these people ? They have been in charge for well over a year - the period of acclimitization is long gone. They should now know what this team is capable of and what is expected of them. As things stand right now - India are no better than they were when John Wright left. This current Indian outfit looks just as bad as the team which lost more than half the matches it played during the horrendous 04/05 season. There hasn't been any improvement at all, just a few new faces.

What gets to me most are all these empty promises they have been making - giving the impression that situation is under control. What bullsh*t. After the losses in WI and in Malaysia, they talked about how slow pitches are difficult to play strokes on. We believed them. They promised that they would come good on the pitches at home, citing their previous series wins. We believed them. After the early CT exit - they began talking about how they would be able to adapt to the bounce and claimed that strokeplay would be much easier when the ball comes on. We believed them. and just like on all those occasions, they are failing. So Mr. Dravid, Dr. Chappell - what kind of pitches CAN the Indian team play on ? Slow pitches, Indian pitches, fast and bouncy pitches - the results have ALWAYS been the same !!!

Processes are all well and good, but can someone please explain to a layman like me how losing match after match, tournament after tournament - can actually prepare a team set to go after the World Cup. IMO, it does jacksh*t for morale. Results are what matter - even one or two good wins give the team a glimmer of hope and provide them with the reassurance that they can do better. However, in the new season, all India have won are two ODIs against WI and England. Where is that glimmer of hope, that silver lining ?

This team is now beginning to latch onto memories from 3 years ago, because they can't point to a successful history of their own. After all - in order to recollect history, you need to write it first ! and this is the team which they say can win the World Cup. What a sad state of affairs. I'll just join them in grabbing hold of memories from the Ganguly era and hope that this defeat forces them to wake up in the way they did after losing to Australia in the group stage of the '03 WC.

[Dhondy]

[code:8f4667ca6f]what kind of pitches CAN the Indian team play on ? Slow pitches, Indian pitches, fast and bouncy pitches - the results have ALWAYS been the same !!! [/code:1:8f4667ca6f]

Ouch! :lol: :lol:

[Rohan495]

chappell thinks hes to smart. he needs to go back and coach a club team in Australia. dropping class players like Laxman, Ganguly and recruiting players like Raina Kaif Mongia Sreesanth, good for nothing. Emphasizes on fielding more than batting, what type of coach does that? is this cricket where batting matters more, or is this catching a fresbeee.....god damn man

[ravi]

I think Predator has hit the nail in the head. India has not produced decent results on slow tracks, fast and bouncy tracks or even ones that assist spinners. The only two batters that are good enough to be playing international cricket is Tendulkar and Rahul. The rest are just there on the laurels of their past. Unfortunately these guys can't be dropped either as the world cup is so near and you have to go with experience. Lest they could bring in Laxman, Ganguly and Gambhir perhaps???

As for Chappell, I don't care if he is there or not. The coaches are anyway far too overrated and it is up to the players to work on their game. I don't like to react this soon as it is quite a known fact South Africa is far too good for India in ODIs. All I want is the rest of the guys chip in with whatever they can. Even 20s and 30s from guys like Jaffer, Raina, Mongia will help in the end but they aren't even good enough to get to double figures.

I am hoping these guys will win atleast one ODI if not 2.

[Rohan495]

Perfect one day and Test Team for India

One day:
1.Sachin Tendulkar
2.Virender Sehwag
3.VVS Laxman
4.Yuvraj Singh
5.Rahul Dravid
6.Sourav Ganguly
7.Mahendra Singh Dhoni
8.Irfan Pathan
9. Ajit Agarkar
10. Zaheer Khan
11. Anil Kumble
Test Team
1. Virender Sehwag
2. Wasim Jaffer
3. VVS Laxman
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Yuvraj Singh
7. Mahendra Singh Dhoni
8. Irfan Pathan
9. Zaheer Khan
10. Anil Kumble
11. Harbhajan Singh
-Thats a solid one day batting line up, as well as good seamers and a matchwinning leg spin bowler.This team would win India a world cup, or based on the current form of India, a single game .I hate this experimental **** done by coach chappell. Hes seriously responsible for messing up Irfan Pathans progression, also responsible for ruinin Laxman and Gangulys career. Prolonging Kaifs career, Rejuvenating Dinesh Mongias hopeless career, bringing in Sreesanth who is a schoolboy bowler, sticking with Raina even if there are other more talented cricketers in the country.

-As far as the test team is concern. Laxmans place shouldnt be a concern, hes probably one of top knotch performers in world cricket at number 3. For now Yuvraj and Kaif can battle for the extra spot. Jaffer cans stick as an opener he has a good technique and can score in large numbers, but he is certainly not a one day player, so selectors shouldnt even try experiements. Kumble and Harbhajan should be in the team and bowl in tandem, they are a deadly combo when in form. Dhonis place can also be doubted, since Dinesh Karthik in my opinion is a better wicketkeeper, from a keepers standpoint even though Dhonis impact will always be more.

Selectors would probably never read this since they are the most brilliant individuals, since they are not regionally biased. By the way Im being sarcastic
Selectors plus Chappell: Demolishers of Indian Cricket

[vroomfondel]

rohan, at this point, you might actually convince me that your OD team will work...and Gangs may yet play more ODI's. He needs to open with Tendlya. Sehwag at 5.

your test team seems short on bowling. would like munaf for yuvraj. his reverse is invaluable in tests.

[ravi]

I think you have summarized pretty nicely Rohan. Although I don't agree with your assessment about Sreesanth you are quite bang on in the team selection. Every other time Sreesanth has had a chance he has done his best. He hits the seam really well, bowls at a decent pace. Although a bit loose in direction giving him opportunities will ensure he will get better.

It is not only the coach you are right, the selectors also need to take fair bit of blame. Honestly just because Chappell is the coach India is not losing.

You are right about Pathan too. I cannot understand what do they treat him as, a bowler, an all rounder or a batter? They seem to be too confused with his role in the team. If not in South Africa where can they play him???

[Rohan495]

All I am saying is he needs to bulk up. In the cricket team there is so much emphasis on fielding, what about health and nutrition? He looks like a stick compared to a bowler like Wasim Akram, Umar Gul, Brett Lee

[ravi]

I don't know if you had seen how Wasim Akram looked when he first burst into international cricket. I can provide you with some videos, Akram looked like malnutritioned. Also bulking up is not going to help his direction. The bowlers bowl the quickest when they are lean and mean. Take Srinath, McGrath, Donald, Holding and the rest. You better not mention the Pakistan bowlers, we all know where their bulk comes from :hic: I would rather not want Sreesanth to be banned for doping.

[King Tendulkar]

If we carry on performing like this then no alterantive but to sack him :roll:

Really hope we turn it around though and we can.

The coaches role is overrated as it is still down to individuals. However, if we carry on being bowled out for under 100 then he will be under serious threat.

However ironically our bowling/fielding is a lot better. Teams not getting 280 + like they used to. Just our batters are in shocking nick. How much is that down to Chappel? Probably not a lot.

[Rohan495]

dude Sreesanth gives away so many runs at times. I hate his attitude someone needs to punch him in the face and tell him to retire. Why is he such a big deal. I can find 10 better bowlers within India who would perform WAY better

[ravi]

Quite a few right statements there DSR. A lot of our batsmen are very think on technique. It is easy to get away without having solid technique on batting tracks but on bouncy, juicy tracks it is utmost important you need water tight technique. Lot of our batters are quite loose in technique. I'm sure they will get better in future but for now don't expect consistency and great results.

South Africa of course have been bred on these pitches. Their bowlers thrive on such pitches and they know where to bowl on these pitches like how Anil Kumble operates in India. The South African bowlers are a huge threat in South Africa.

Look at South Africa's batting closely, they all have decent defense and don't play across the line too much (barring Smith of course). They mostly are good drivers on the up and they know to play their horizontal bat shots quite well. Their batting against spin sucks though and the reason is they dont have decent spinners or decent tracks for spin to encourage spinners.

What did South Africa get against NZ in Champions trophy on a spinners paradise? 106 runs. Not too much compared to what our boys got last nigth right. This is what makes cricket unique, the conditions, pitch, the bowlers are all variables in deciding a game. It is unfortunate we got such a result last night but this is something we can't help. :shrug:

[ravi]

dude Sreesanth gives away so many runs at times. I hate his attitude someone needs to punch him in the face and tell him to retire. Why is he such a big deal. I can find 10 better bowlers within India who would perform WAY better

I think his attitude is better than the rest of the bowlers. He is aggressive and in the face. I'm not sure why you wouldn't rate him. The last game he played in the ICC trophy he was the one to provide break throughs and bowled quite sharply. You may not like him personally but that doesn't make him a bad bowler. Yes he gives runs away but any new bowler does otherwise why do you think the experienced ones are way better than the new ones. He will find his feet in the next couple of years surely.

[Predator_05]

I am not that smart, so can someone please explain to me what exactly is the job of the Indian coach ? What is he required to do ? People keep attributing the team's losses to the players' poor performances - fair enough...but then what do the BCCI pay Chappell $200k a year for ? If they are shelling out that kind of dough, surely they are doing it in anticipation of an improvement. and we haven't seen any imprvoements yet, have we.

[talksport]

And ***ing arrogant in not hiring a bowling coach with all the young talent around.