23/3/2003:The Nadimarg Massacre Of Kashmiri Pandits

[Malcolm Merlyn]

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2003 Nadimarg massacre was killing of 24 Hindus in the village of Nadimarg in Pulwama District of Jammu and Kashmir by terrorists on 23 March 2003

The armed militants came dressed in counterfeit military uniforms. The attack took place between 11 pm and midnight. Victims included 11 men, 11 women, and two small boys who were lined up and shot and killed by the gunmen.The victims ranged from a 65-year-old man to a 2-year-old boy.On night of 23 March 2003 the terrorists entered at Nadimarg village near Shopian in Pulwama district in Jammu and Kashmir and dragged the Hindus out from their homes, lined them and shot them from automatic weapons. At least 24 Hindus including 11 women and 2 children were killed. The policemen posted there fled the scene. The killers allegedly disfigured the bodies of the victims, looted their houses and took away the ornaments from bodies of the dead women.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chewy]

These Pakistani invading pigs need to be kicked out of Kashmir

that's why I have no reaction when their terrorist 14 year old stone pelting kid is shot dead 

too long these illegal migrants have been allowed to camp in Kashmir and go on killing and bombing like their brethrens across the border

[rahulrulezz]

Which is why I am in favour of doing partition of Kashmir. Wait till these certain militant cockroaches spread to interior parts of india. 

 

How do you think Zoarashtriasm, Buddhism and Yezdis were wiped from Middle East and Afghanistan in just 1,000 years. 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, rahulrulezz said:

Which is why I am in favour of doing partition of Kashmir. Wait till these certain militant cockroaches spread to interior parts of india. 

 

How do you think Zoarashtriasm, Buddhism and Yezdis were wiped from Middle East and Afghanistan in just 1,000 years. 

Kashmir is a strategic buffer zone for India. We need the land, not the people. 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, chewy said:

These Pakistani invading pigs need to be kicked out of Kashmir

that's why I have no reaction when their terrorist 14 year old stone pelting kid is shot dead 

too long these illegal migrants have been allowed to camp in Kashmir and go on killing and bombing like their brethrens across the border

Many are locals dude. I love it when these stone pelters are killed or better blinded with pellets. We should follow the Israel model: kill them, demolish their house and put their relatives behind bars. Kashmir needs to be dealt with an iron fist. 

Presstitutes and leftists who keep barking too should be silenced.

[rahulrulezz]

36 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Kashmir is a strategic buffer zone for India. We need the land, not the people. 

I think in a long run, we will get a better deal if Kashmiris stay out of  India even if it means we have to loose some of our land. Even when Pakistan was created, we lost lots of land, but look at it now, how happy we are that the Pakistanis and their thought process is not part of India. 

[zen]

11 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said:

I think in a long run, we will get a better deal if Kashmiris stay out of  India even if it means we have to loose some of our land. Even when Pakistan was created, we lost lots of land, but look at it now, how happy we are that the Pakistanis and their thought process is not part of India. 

From something that I wrote some time ago:

 

" Jammu and Kashmir in Numbers

The State of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) under India’s administration accounts for roughly 3% of India’s land area and 1% of its population. Of this 1% population, roughly two-thirds is Muslim and the rest is divided amongst Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, etc.  Of the two-thirds of the Muslim population, approximately 90% lives in the Kashmir valley. It should be noted that because of terrorism, a part of the non-Muslim population was forced to move out of J&K.  J&K is divided into Kashmir Valley (16%), Jammu (26%) and Ladakh (59%) regions. In terms of population, Kashmir Valley accounts for roughly 54% of its population, while Jammu and Ladakh account for the balance. As for the contribution towards economy, J&K accounts for less than 1% of India’s GDP (Nominal, 2012-13).

 

When people talk about the issue in Kashmir under India’s administration, they are by and large referring to the issues that those residing in the Kashmir valley are supposed to have with the Indian administration. In terms of numbers, we are talking about approximately 0.5% of the total land and population of India, and 16% area of J&K."

 

Since you are comparing the issue with creation of Pakistan (and BD), what percent of population were we talking about then? Note that Kashmir issue is related to the creation of Pak where Pak and the forces its backed attacked Kashmir. 

Edited March 23, 2017 by zen

[someone]

2 hours ago, rahulrulezz said:

I think in a long run, we will get a better deal if Kashmiris stay out of  India even if it means we have to loose some of our land. Even when Pakistan was created, we lost lots of land, but look at it now, how happy we are that the Pakistanis and their thought process is not part of India. 

BS. Kashmir issue is religion issue. If Kashmir is gone, that will only be followed by many parts of India. Let's admit it, we have lots of anti-nationals waiting for that very moment.

[zen]

If people of Ind were more mature, and community and environmental focused, along with being less corrupt, there could have been a case for breaking Ind up in to smaller nations and having an European Union type of a system 

 

Currently, it is hard to imagine what would happen to an independent Bihar if someone like Laloo Prasad were at the helm. Law and order situation esp against womem in states such as UP could become worse with goondas as politicians, etc. For Ind's deficiencies, it has to stay united 

 

Edited March 23, 2017 by zen

[Ranvir]

Let's be honest here. Giving the Muslim majority part of Kashmir to India was a big mistake. Muslim majority parts of Punjab and Bengal were given to Pakistan and what is now Bangladesh and that is what should have happened to Kashmir. India wouldn't be facing these Muslim related issues today and there probably wouldn't be much fighting between Pakistan and India.

 

Likewise it was a huge mistake letting a huge amount of muslims live in India after partition. Pakistan were able to remove almost all of the non Muslim population but India didn't do the reverse and has let them flourish instead.

[Muloghonto]

10 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

Let's be honest here. Giving the Muslim majority part of Kashmir to India was a big mistake. Muslim majority parts of Punjab and Bengal were given to Pakistan and what is now Bangladesh and that is what should have happened to Kashmir. India wouldn't be facing these Muslim related issues today and there probably wouldn't be much fighting between Pakistan and India.

 

Likewise it was a huge mistake letting a huge amount of muslims live in India after partition. Pakistan were able to remove almost all of the non Muslim population but India didn't do the reverse and has let them flourish instead.

Kashmir wasnt given to India by the British. Its sovereign (the maharaja) decided to make India the sovereign , which the sovereign of India (GoI) accepted. 
What went wrong with Kashmir, is we allowed it special concessions. Otherwise, Kashmir would not be an issue now.

 

[Ranvir]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Kashmir wasnt given to India by the British. Its sovereign (the maharaja) decided to make India the sovereign , which the sovereign of India (GoI) accepted. 
What went wrong with Kashmir, is we allowed it special concessions. Otherwise, Kashmir would not be an issue now.

 

Yes I know all about Maharaja Hari Singh, but it was foolish to give him that power to choose in the first place.

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Ranvir said:

Yes I know all about Maharaja Hari Singh, but it was foolish to give him that power to choose in the first place.

He wasn't 'given' that power, its simply his power was never taken away in the first place. All petty kings- the numerous Rajput & maratha principalities- they were all sovereigns - just no de facto power. 

[randomGuy]

On 24/03/2017 at 3:01 AM, Ranvir said:

Let's be honest here. Giving the Muslim majority part of Kashmir to India was a big mistake. Muslim majority parts of Punjab and Bengal were given to Pakistan and what is now Bangladesh and that is what should have happened to Kashmir. India wouldn't be facing these Muslim related issues today and there probably wouldn't be much fighting between Pakistan and India.

 

Likewise it was a huge mistake letting a huge amount of muslims live in India after partition. Pakistan were able to remove almost all of the non Muslim population but India didn't do the reverse and has let them flourish instead.

Or Instead of Congress, we had bjp govt. for those 60 yrs all over India, then also Islam would have been kept in check. 

[zen]

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 0:38 PM, zen said:

If people of Ind were more mature, and community and environmental focused, along with being less corrupt, there could have been a case for breaking Ind up in to smaller nations and having an European Union type of a system 

 

Currently, it is hard to imagine what would happen to an independent Bihar if someone like Laloo Prasad were at the helm. Law and order situation esp against womem in states such as UP could become worse with goondas as politicians, etc. For Ind's deficiencies, it has to stay united 

 

To add to the above:

 

The map of the world has usually changed every 7 to 8 decades iirc .... In Ind too, we have seen the trend with the formation of new states 

 

As for J&K, the problem area is the valley area. Ind would need to find a way to create states such as Kashmir, Jammu and Ladakh from current J&K

 

Edited March 25, 2017 by zen

[someone]

On 24/3/2017 at 5:31 AM, Ranvir said:

Let's be honest here. Giving the Muslim majority part of Kashmir to India was a big mistake. Muslim majority parts of Punjab and Bengal were given to Pakistan and what is now Bangladesh and that is what should have happened to Kashmir. India wouldn't be facing these Muslim related issues today and there probably wouldn't be much fighting between Pakistan and India.

 

Likewise it was a huge mistake letting a huge amount of muslims live in India after partition. Pakistan were able to remove almost all of the non Muslim population but India didn't do the reverse and has let them flourish instead.

It could have been a big mistake but now, Kashmir acts a buffer. Had their been no Kashmir now, mainland central India would be the target.

 

Our  leaders also had a secular "bug" and instead of truly integrating Muslims in the country, they allowed separate ghettos and appeasement . For a big nation like ours, we don't have our own narrative nor any national identity. That's the real problem.

Edited March 25, 2017 by someone

[Ranvir]

2 hours ago, someone said:

It could have been a big mistake but now, Kashmir acts a buffer. Had their been no Kashmir now, mainland central India would be the target.

 

Our  leaders also had a secular "bug" and instead of truly integrating Muslims in the country, they allowed separate ghettos and appeasement . For a big nation like ours, we don't have our own narrative nor any national identity. That's the real problem.

How does Kashmir act like a buffer? Punjab, Rajasthan and Gujarat all border Pakistan and they don't have a problem with Islamic terrorism. Kashmir has a problem because it is a Muslim majority state. 

 

You should treat people as they as they treat you. The whole Kashmir fiasco and what is going on in West Bengal has shown what happens when Muslims are in a large number.

 

 

[someone]

20 hours ago, Ranvir said:

How does Kashmir act like a buffer? Punjab, Rajasthan and Gujarat all border Pakistan and they don't have a problem with Islamic terrorism. Kashmir has a problem because it is a Muslim majority state. 

 

You should treat people as they as they treat you. The whole Kashmir fiasco and what is going on in West Bengal has shown what happens when Muslims are in a large number.

Of course, I agree with you what you wrote on the religion aspect. I replied that Kashmir now is a strategic asset and should never be let go.

[mishra]

So sad. No words or deeds can take the pain away.

No nation in world is where a minority community keeps butchering majority.