Kohli vs Sachin . Can we stop this embarrassing comparison (POLL)

[Laaloo]

3 minutes ago, Viper said:

Its obvious virat need to WATCHES how to bat from your gawdd first ?

yes very obvious

[Shunya]

T20s - Kohli

ODIs - Equal

Tests- Sachin

 

Overall, at this point of time Sachin is clearly ahead. But looking at the Kohli right now, he will surpass everyone by the time he retires. If for some reason he cant, it will prove why longevity was such an important factor in Sachin's awesome career.

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, Viper said:

Yes...my my

Yes..your your

[jalebi_bhai]

4 minutes ago, laaloo said:

That's because Ricky and Sachin played for the same team

What about Dada?

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, jalebi_bhai said:

What about Dada?

What about him?

[express bowling]

30 minutes ago, maniac said:

As BG said stats are tough to pull here...Virat scored 305 runs in 2015 WC and finished at 21st spot. Someone who scored 300 runs in 1992 WC would have finished in the top 10.

 

Scahin

 

These stats were in answer to the point that Kohli has nothing outside of India.  They were not for comparison purpose.

[jalebi_bhai]

2 minutes ago, laaloo said:

What about him?

He formed the second best opening partnership in ODIs with Sachin but he rates Virat higher in Australia even though he never played with him.

[Laaloo]

5 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

He formed the second best opening partnership in ODIs with Sachin but he rates Virat higher in Australia even though he never played with him.

I dont agree but respect Dada for his views.

[express bowling]

10 hours ago, G_B_ said:

 

Who averages more in South Africa. Rahane or kohli.

 

 

 

Kohli has done well all over the world except England.  Has done very well in India.

 

Rahane has done well all over the world but has been below average in India, where we play 50% of our tests.

 

Rahane looks very suspect while playing on slow and low surfaces and that is what puts him behind Kohli in test matches.

 

Kohli's ability to play really big knocks at good SR  has also put him above Rahane in the last one year.

Edited April 1, 2017 by express bowling

[G_B_]

In odis: virat>>Sachin 

 

In tests: Sachin>>>>Virat. 

 

What about sakib in comparison?

 

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[G_B_]

 

Kohli has done well all over the world except England.  Has done very well in India.

 

Rahane has done well all over the world but has been below average in India, where we play 50% of our tests.

 

Rahane looks very suspect while playing on slow and low surfaces and that is what puts him behind Kohli in test matches.

 

Kohli's ability to play really big knocks at good SR  have also put him above Rahane in the last one year.

 

That last one year has been at home.

 

Kohli is like a slightly higher paying stock with high varience.

 

Rahabe is a slightly lower paying stock with low varience

 

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[velu]

1 hour ago, laaloo said:

We're comparing number 1 vs number 2.

msd is like undisputed champ .. better than #1 :P

[Muloghonto]

Bhai this is nonsense topic.

Kohli is currently in the same league as Laxman as far as tests go : crucial innings here and there, giant Australia slayer but has inconsistency issues.

In ODIs, he is great, but not a patch on Sachin.

Sachin averaged 48+ as an opener, scoring 15000 runs and at a strike rate comparable to Kohli (88 vs 90). He also did it in an era where 275 was a defendable score in ODIs for most team. Today, 300 is barely defendable by even the best teams. Tendulkar did it in an era when bowling attacks were comprised of Ambrose-Walsh, Wasim-Waqar-Akhtar-Saqlain-Mushie, McGrath-Warne-Lee-Fleming, Donald-Pollock-deVilliers-Ntini-Steyn, Murali-Vaas. Of these attacks, only the current Saffie attack is comparable to their old attack and every single ODI attack is inferior. 

 

Also, when Sachin was averaging 48-50 opening in ODIs, nobody else could come even close to the 50 average and high 80s strike rate. Everyone else was either 10-15 points below in average (Jayasurya, MEW, etc) or 10-15 points behind in strike rate (Bevan). Kohli has another 50 average and 90 strike rate guy in his own team (Dhoni), not to mention ABDV, Amla, etc. 

 

Lastly, yes, Kohli is a great chaser. But Tendulkar is a big match player. In world cups, guy averages 55+. In all tournament finals, he averages 55. He averages 52 in all elimination round matches. 
Kohli on the other hand, is the king of meaningless bilateral ODIs. In all tournament finals, he averages 24. In all elimination rounds, he averages 24. So yes, Kohli CAN be a great ODI player- he is near it currently. But he is nowhere close to the greatest ODI batsman ever.

 

[express bowling]

As of today ----

 

Test batting --  Sachin  better

 

ODI batting --  Sachin bettter at setting target

        --   Kohli better at chasing target

 

T20 batting --  Kohli  better

 

Captaincy -- Kohli way better

 

Will to win matches for his team and team development --  Kohli better

 

My overall impression

 

 --  Sachin better batsman

 --   Kohli better overall player

 

Edited March 31, 2017 by express bowling

[Muloghonto]

Just now, express bowling said:

As of today ----

 

Tests --  Sachin  better

 

ODIs --  Sachin bettter at setting target

        --   Kohli better at chasing target

 

T20s --  Kohli  better

 

Captaincy -- Kohli way better

 

Will to win matches for his team --  Kohli better

 

My overall impression

 

 --  Sachin better batsman

 --   Kohli better overall player

 

??

Sachin broke plenty of crucial partnerships with his bowling. Not to mention, he is a way better catcher than Kohli. Even if they were perfectly equal as batsmen, Sachin's bowling alone makes him a better cricketer. And you already said that Sachin is a better batsman. Add his better bowling and catching, Kohli only got better ground-fielding on him.

 

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

??

Sachin broke plenty of crucial partnerships with his bowling. Not to mention, he is a way better catcher than Kohli. Even if they were perfectly equal as batsmen, Sachin's bowling alone makes him a better cricketer. And you already said that Sachin is a better batsman. Add his better bowling and catching, Kohli only got better ground-fielding on him.

 

I rate will to win for team,  captaincy and team development very highly in a team sport.

[HippoSucks]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

As of today ----

 

Tests --  Sachin  better

 

ODIs --  Sachin bettter at setting target

        --   Kohli better at chasing target

 

T20s --  Kohli  better

 

Captaincy -- Kohli way better

 

Will to win matches for his team and team development --  Kohli better

 

My overall impression

 

 --  Sachin better batsman

 --   Kohli better overall player

 

 

I don't think it is fair to put T20s against Sachin, considering he only played one match. Otherwise, Kohli is indisputably the greatest cricketer of all time because of being an ATG in 2 formats and very good in one.

[express bowling]

Just now, HippoSucks said:

I don't think it is fair to put T20s against Sachin, considering he only played one match. Otherwise, Kohli is indisputably the greatest cricketer of all time because of being an ATG in 2 formats and very good in one.

I said T20s and not T20Is.    Sachin has played 78  IPL matches.

[HippoSucks]

9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Bhai this is nonsense topic.

Kohli is currently in the same league as Laxman as far as tests go : crucial innings here and there, giant Australia slayer but has inconsistency issues.

In ODIs, he is great, but not a patch on Sachin.

Sachin averaged 48+ as an opener, scoring 15000 runs and at a strike rate comparable to Kohli (88 vs 90). He also did it in an era where 275 was a defendable score in ODIs for most team. Today, 300 is barely defendable by even the best teams. Tendulkar did it in an era when bowling attacks were comprised of Ambrose-Walsh, Wasim-Waqar-Akhtar-Saqlain-Mushie, McGrath-Warne-Lee-Fleming, Donald-Pollock-deVilliers-Ntini-Steyn, Murali-Vaas. Of these attacks, only the current Saffie attack is comparable to their old attack and every single ODI attack is inferior. 

 

Also, when Sachin was averaging 48-50 opening in ODIs, nobody else could come even close to the 50 average and high 80s strike rate. Everyone else was either 10-15 points below in average (Jayasurya, MEW, etc) or 10-15 points behind in strike rate (Bevan). Kohli has another 50 average and 90 strike rate guy in his own team (Dhoni), not to mention ABDV, Amla, etc. 

 

Lastly, yes, Kohli is a great chaser. But Tendulkar is a big match player. In world cups, guy averages 55+. In all tournament finals, he averages 55. He averages 52 in all elimination round matches. 
Kohli on the other hand, is the king of meaningless bilateral ODIs. In all tournament finals, he averages 24. In all elimination rounds, he averages 24. So yes, Kohli CAN be a great ODI player- he is near it currently. But he is nowhere close to the greatest ODI batsman ever.

 

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Consistency issues? Since 2014, he has performed in 8/11 series against the top 8 teams.

[Muloghonto]

Just now, HippoSucks said:

Consistency issues? Since 2014, he has performed in 8/11 series against the top 8 teams.

Yes. since 2014. Thats not even a world cup cycle. Too early to say if he has found consistency or is just going trough a purple patch