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First Pakistani Batsman to complete 10,000 Test Runs...

 

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Chase to Younis Khan, FOUR, there it is! Gets 10,000 with a sweep, a shot that has brought him so many of those runs, rolls his wrists, sends it wide of a diving short fine leg...he's quite emotional. Takes his helmet off, salutes the dressing room, punches the badge on his shirt

 

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HippoSucks Newbie

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23 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

No to all 3. 

I'd pick Chanderpaul or Jayawardene over him every single time. Especially Chanderpaul, who did far better overseas against far better bowling. Also, WI pitches are not pattas. 

 
 

Jayawardene is the definition of a flat track bully. Mediocre in UAE, South Africa, New Zealand, England and Australia.

 

Chanderpaul has not done well in UAE, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Pakistan. Younis hasn't played too much overseas and clearly struggles against pace, but he has still performed well away. He is one of the best players of spin this turn of the century, has a brilliant conversion rate and temperament and performs under pressure. No way either of those are better players than Younis.

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Muloghonto Experienced

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1 hour ago, HippoSucks said:

Jayawardene is the definition of a flat track bully. Mediocre in UAE, South Africa, New Zealand, England and Australia.

 

Chanderpaul has not done well in UAE, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Pakistan. Younis hasn't played too much overseas and clearly struggles against pace, but he has still performed well away. He is one of the best players of spin this turn of the century, has a brilliant conversion rate and temperament and performs under pressure. No way either of those are better players than Younis.

1. Jayawardene is not a flat track bully. Younis is a flat track bully. Show me a few innings of Younis where Younis scores a mountain of runs while others fail. He has the fewest amongst 10K people in that regard. Jaya is not very good on bouncy wickets. But on absolute spinning minefields, i will take Jaya easily over Younis.

 

2. Chanderpaul had way better temperament and has scored his runs against way better bowling attacks. Chanderpaul isn't as good on minefields as Younis, but far better on pacy wickets. Above all, Chanderpaul rarely gave his wicket away for free like Younis did most of his career.  Younis has only been able to boost his average overseas in the last couple of years due to playing on some flat tracks and not so great attacks. he was a career low 30s average guy in England/Australia/South Africa/New Zealand/WI. This is why i don't rate him,because for the largest section of his career, he's been irrelevant overseas and struggled on pitches that are not roads.

 

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Never saw Javed Miandad bat live in Test Matches, so for me, Younis Khan is the best ever Pakistani batsman.

 

What a player he has been for Pakistan.

 

Surely a great of the game if you have scored that many runs which not many have done.

 

Great player.

 

Happy retirement to him. Well done. He deserves it.

 

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Muloghonto Experienced

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5 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

I didn't watch Miandad so can't comment on how good he is.

 

Perhaps should have said the best Pakistani bat since 90s

Ah. Well Miandad was more effective in trying conditions than Younis IMO, though Miandad was no great shakes in trying conditions either. Like Younis, also an ugly batsman. Pakistan's problem in batting has been that their best stroke playing batsmen were not truly elite and their elite batsmen were not truly stroke players. Inzamam came closest to being elite and stroke player, but he fell short of the elite bracket due to a) never quite being prolific enough. IIRC, he always hovered around the 46-51 average. Never quite had the '55-60 career average' at any point in his career  b) being a pathetic runner and even running people out in Test cricket alarmingly frequently (for test cricket). 

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Gollum Grand Master

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Example of mental toughness, sheer grit and temperament. With his mediocre technique and other shortcomings he has still scored 10k runs at an average of 53+. :hatsoff:

Our players(esp Vijay and Kohli) need to take him as an example because he has achieved his full potential. YK is a living example of cricket being a game played between the 2 ears and how to maximize one's talent. Sachin, Lara, Viv, Gavaskar ....no matter great, they were underachievers. 

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Example of mental toughness, sheer grit and temperament. With his mediocre technique and other shortcomings he has still scored 10k runs at an average of 53+. :hatsoff:

Our players(esp Vijay and Kohli) need to take him as an example because he has achieved his full potential. YK is a living example of cricket being a game played between the 2 ears and how to maximize one's talent. Sachin, Lara, Viv, Gavaskar ....no matter great, they were underachievers. 

Agree on Lara and SRT being under-achievers in Tests but Sunny and Viv pretty much did justice to their talent no? Although Viv should have probably retired in around 1989 after winning in Australia.

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4 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Agree on Lara and SRT being under-achievers in Tests but Sunny and Viv pretty much did justice to their talent no? Although Viv should have probably retired in around 1989 after winning in Australia.

Viv was a big underachiever, he never played for milestones, got out many times trying to entertain the gallery. Also as you rightly said he carried on for a couple of years extra. Add to the fact he missed international cricket at the peak of his powers playing Kerry Packer's WSC. His ODI record does him justice(Avg 47 @ SR 90+ at number 3 in that era where Kris Srikanth and Greenidge had SR of 70 :adore::adore:). Had he really valued his wicket in tests and not always played trying to please the crowd he could legitimately have had an average close to Graeme Pollock's. 

 

Sunny was another big underachiever. He missed out on may easy runs against the likes of Lanka, NZ(apart from Hadlee very mediocre in the bowling department), England(who had a crisis in the mid 80s) etc. Had he really fulfilled his potential he would be averaging much higher than 50, he was that good, dare I say even better than SRT. Greatest technique in the history of cricket, greatest judgement of shot selection and greatest leaver of the ball. The one thing against him was his propensity to get into altercations with many of his team mates(Kapil, Bedi, Vengsarkar etc). His selfishness and holding grudge against other skippers made him under perform on many occasions. Many times he went missing because his mind wasn't on cricket because of external factors, a proper drama queen.

 

And to think despite all that both Viv and Sunny will walk into an all time XI....legends. :hatsoff:

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Viv was a big underachiever, he never played for milestones, got out many times trying to entertain the gallery. Also as you rightly said he carried on for a couple of years extra. Add to the fact he missed international cricket at the peak of his powers playing Kerry Packer's WSC. His ODI record does him justice(Avg 47 @ SR 90+ at number 3 in that era where Kris Srikanth and Greenidge had SR of 70 :adore::adore:). Had he really valued his wicket in tests and not always played trying to please the crowd he could legitimately have had an average close to Graeme Pollock's. 

 

Sunny was another big underachiever. He missed out on may easy runs against the likes of Lanka, NZ(apart from Hadlee very mediocre in the bowling department), England(who had a crisis in the mid 80s) etc. Had he really fulfilled his potential he would be averaging much higher than 50, he was that good, dare I say even better than SRT. Greatest technique in the history of cricket, greatest judgement of shot selection and greatest leaver of the ball. The one thing against him was his propensity to get into altercations with many of his team mates(Kapil, Bedi, Vengsarkar etc). His selfishness and holding grudge against other skippers made him under perform on many occasions. Many times he went missing because his mind wasn't on cricket because of external factors, a proper drama queen.

 

And to think despite all that both Viv and Sunny will walk into an all time XI....legends. :hatsoff:

IVAR is the best ODI batsman ever to play the format.  And you are correct - he might have had better numbers if he had put his head down and prioritized big scores instead of domination.  But you don't know that for sure.  Regardless he's one of the few batsmen who can dominate bowlers more than Veeru at his best.  

 

I'm not going to get into an argument over your characterization of Sunny - I will agree that he was very motivated guy when it came to his individual numbers, but not sure if I would go as far as you did.

 

 

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