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BCCI loses ICC vote 2-8 .ICC resolution passed and Big three model struck down


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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

you can expect a lot of barking from certain sections in the coming weeks but expect absolutely no change in ground. A memorandum of understanding is not an agreement and an agreement is not a contract. 

Of course. I'm aware of that.  This is just Sethi pre-maturely creaming his pants.  A court of law can't be strong-armed by back-room ICC dealing.  He's just crowing on the achievements of others and expressing his schaudenfraude at BCCI's setback.    In short, being a typical greenbro.  

 

The risk that the BCCI needs to address is that with the governance changes, if the PCB can use the ICC to pressure BCCI into touring them or get compensated.   Any lawsuit based on MOUs is going to only cost the PCB expensive lawyer fees.   Which Sethi can get a commission out of.  

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Are you kidding?The revenue model is out in the open and every credible news agency has reported it.

What was reported was India share was 500 million now it will be 400 million and England from 145million to 110 million and Australia now 100.Biggest beneficiary are rest of boards .It's nowhere as bad it is made out to be.

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i think we will now see less and less bilateral series, India will selectively participate in ICC tournaments, but there could be qualification hurdles if India does not participate in sufficient games. We will see a period of uncertainty and then an upswing again some time in future. In immediate future we will see less capital expenditure for state associations, so less players coming through in first class, IPL teams will get stronger, tests will weaken and t20 will strengthen, more and more t20 leagues and more durations for them, as they will be able to command better infrastructure than state associations. IPL should expand and have a lower league and have a promotion/relegation system. Cost of having Afg/Ireland in mix and bit more money for Eng,Pak,BD,Zim,WI,Aus.

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1 hour ago, CG said:

Icc revenue model will be uploaded on there website then only we can comment.Now it's just masala news.

Dude, Australia gets 1 or 2 percent cut, ECB gets 10% cut, but thats a fake number because they have excluded World cup and Champions trophy earnings from their share, while billing ICC for the hosting costs.  This is known.  

 

More than the revenue cut - its the new voting structure and governance rules that are explicitly designed to cut BCCI down to size.  Not sure how and what the BCCI can do to stop those.

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3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Of course. I'm aware of that.  This is just Sethi pre-maturely creaming his pants.  A court of law can't be strong-armed by back-room ICC dealing.  He's just crowing on the achievements of others and expressing his schaudenfraude at BCCI's setback.    In short, being a typical greenbro.  

 

The risk that the BCCI needs to address is that with the governance changes, if the PCB can use the ICC to pressure BCCI into touring them or get compensated.   Any lawsuit based on MOUs is going to only cost the PCB expensive lawyer fees.   Which Sethi can get a commission out of.  

yeah what do these governance changes entail, signing of contracts for tours that could be messy for everyone. top observation about the green gheto, thanks for the german term very useful.

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2 minutes ago, CG said:

What was reported was India share was 500 million now it will be 400 million and England from 145million to 110 million and Australia now 100.Biggest beneficiary are rest of boards .It's nowhere as bad it is made out to be.

From Cricinfo 

 

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 financial model that was passed in Dubai on Wednesday, the BCCI's share of ICC revenue was only $293 million, a little more than half the amount the Indian board wanted. Apart from the BCCI, Sri Lanka Cricket was the other board to oppose the governance structure - the SLC wanted to see the changes that had been made after the ICC received feedback from the members.

 

Every state board will lose 100 Cr from their revenue .That isn't bad ?

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Dude, Australia gets 1 or 2 percent cut, ECB gets 10% cut, but thats a fake number because they have excluded World cup and Champions trophy earnings from their share, while billing ICC for the hosting costs.  This is known.  

 

More than the revenue cut - its the new voting structure and governance rules that are explicitly designed to cut BCCI down to size.  Not sure how and what the BCCI can do to stop those.

Still we are getting 400 million to England 120 million.bcci can manage loss of 100 million as it will help mostly nz,sa,ire,afg,

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2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Dude, Australia gets 1 or 2 percent cut, ECB gets 10% cut, but thats a fake number because they have excluded World cup and Champions trophy earnings from their share, while billing ICC for the hosting costs.  This is known.  

 

More than the revenue cut - its the new voting structure and governance rules that are explicitly designed to cut BCCI down to size.  Not sure how and what the BCCI can do to stop those.

cant stop it, ICC has spoken. BCCI should play within it stick to the minimum rules necessary to have a standing there and invest in expanding IPL. Introduce a lower rung promotion relegation, have one day and 4 day games maybe, just advertise it and position it better, and go with the market forces. Ranji/First class will unfortunately suffer and the whole supply chain to bilateral tests will not be the pinnacle eventually.

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In the end of all this chaos, best thing to come out of this is that the BCCI will now need to think hard and really make use of the leverage it still has - Team India's playing calendar.  Who we play cricket with, especially away tours translates into big money.   Secondly, the IPL's season.  It is time to plan a structured expansion of the IPL - both teams and number of games.   If the ICC does not work with the BCCI, and nakedly tries to pin it down, then there is no reason for the BCCI to sacrifice the expansion of Indian cricket to benefit international cricket?  If non Indian cricket fans are so enamored of the FIFA model, they will see that in the FIFA model, international fixtures apart from the world cup basically don't exist.  

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5 minutes ago, sandeep said:

In the end of all this chaos, best thing to come out of this is that the BCCI will now need to think hard and really make use of the leverage it still has - Team India's playing calendar.  Who we play cricket with, especially away tours translates into big money.   Secondly, the IPL's season.  It is time to plan a structured expansion of the IPL - both teams and number of games.   If the ICC does not work with the BCCI, and nakedly tries to pin it down, then there is no reason for the BCCI to sacrifice the expansion of Indian cricket to benefit international cricket?  If non Indian cricket fans are so enamored of the FIFA model, they will see that in the FIFA model, international fixtures apart from the world cup basically don't exist.  

exactly Europe - football India-Cricket. We could call the bi-laterals as friendlies too just sits well the overall reduction in importance. 

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Unfair to all the state associations of India who lose out on development funds

 

BCCI need to for once flex their muscle and just blink and pull out of CT.

 

maybe this could trigger start of Cricket India, time to commercialise domestic cricket from

Ranjis to the List A games, there is so much potential in inter-state rivalry but hardly marketed properly.

 

World cricket can wallow on its own, let them play Ashes, with few tours sprinkled here there for others. 

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The simplest solution is expand IPL to 10 teams , play for 4 months from Feb to May with matches mostly concentrated on weekends .

 

Cut down on the useless Asia cups and meaningless excess bilaterals matches we play overseas .

 

Also commit to only one world Cup every four years back off from these pointless CTs and T20s world cups that happen every two years .That should preserve IPL and overdose of cricket for our cricketers.

 

The priority should be to generate the revenue and wholly self dependent through IPL.

 

 

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How are the payments to ICC done? Is there anyway BCCI can stall the payments for the next year or so, until IPL has played its first expanded season that is? Because at that point, once the feasibility of a full season of expanded IPL has been proven, foreign players will be forced to choose. No way Gora boards can block their players from earning millions? Aus and Eng can try but NZ players can't afford not to play in IPL and considering the state of South african cricket, if their best players could be assured of 3-4-5 million earnings yearly, they will jump ship in a hurry.

And then BCCI can withdraw from ICC for good. 

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