sarcastic Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) This victory would have made every Indian Cricket fan happy. Chasing a pretty high total of 186 against a good bowling attack such as SRH after a chain of defeats and humiliating one too to Kings XI, this is a wonderful testament to all the youngsters who did their job by scoring quick fire 30s and finally the international stars finishing the job. Dare I say, even hard core SRH fans (such as Maniac) are happy at a deeper level after having looked at the courage and determination shown by young Indian brigade from DD today... Edited May 2, 2017 by sarcastic maniac, Sidhoni, tweaker and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Problem is Delhi has under performed by not using their players well. Delhi is one of the best reams who might miss out on playoffs because of their own fault unlike teams like Bangalore who were piss poor. Delhi wasn't poor at all, they had the players but did not use them well so far. Ultimate_Game, mishra and sandeep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Delhi lost one game where they sent Mathews ahead of Morris and a couple more where they experimented with their batting lineup If they had a half decent coach and they would be in the Top 4. Batting Pant lower down the order is simply mind boggling. Sure Pant could fail up the order but you surely give your match winners the best chance to succeed beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcastic Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Problem is Delhi has under performed by not using their players well. Delhi is one of the best reams who might miss out on playoffs because of their own fault unlike teams like Bangalore who were piss poor. Delhi wasn't poor at all, they had the players but did not use them well so far. Right, but Delhi lacked consolidators from the beginning. They should not have lost many chases if they batted sensibly many times. In today's game it is the consistency of many players together that lead DD to victory. This was not the case in many previous matches. Most of the youngsters failed together and only one or two played little cameos and this will not be sufficient for winning matches. Risabh Pant's promotion to number 3 is probably the best move that lead to DD's victory. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, sarcastic said: Right, but Delhi lacked consolidators from the beginning. They should not have lost many chases if they batted sensibly many times. In today's game it is the consistency of many players together that lead DD to victory. This was not the case in many previous matches. Most of the youngsters failed together and only one or two played little cameos and this will not be sufficient for winning matches. Risabh Pant's promotion to number 3 is probably the best move that lead to DD's victory. Also Delhi lost because we kept playing all youngsters back to back in the order, Iyer-Nair-Pant-Samson together in top order won't win you games everyday, they will click once in 7-8 games because all are so young and raw and don't have too many t20 runs behind them or any experience. They show class in few shots but give away later, hence it is always important to play an overseas player around them to keep the runrate going. Today also, the moment power play got over, Karun Nair threw it away because he doesn't know how to bat in that middle over phase when fielders are on the boundary and spinners are on and your team is needing you to keep scoring to keep the runrate up. This is where overseas experienced players come in handy. He batted well today overall, but again we shouldn't forget that playing all youngsters together is not a great thing to do, something many can learn on ICF also as many want an all young Indian t20 side. It is not the most bright idea. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Nair captained better than zak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Also Delhi lost because we kept playing all youngsters back to back in the order, Iyer-Nair-Pant-Samson together in top order won't win you games everyday, they will click once in 7-8 games because all are so young and raw and don't have too many t20 runs behind them or any experience. They show class in few shots but give away later, hence it is always important to play an overseas player around them to keep the runrate going. Today also, the moment power play got over, Karun Nair threw it away because he doesn't know how to bat in that middle over phase when fielders are on the boundary and spinners are on and your team is needing you to keep scoring to keep the runrate up. This is where overseas experienced players come in handy. He batted well today overall, but again we shouldn't forget that playing all youngsters together is not a great thing to do, something many can learn on ICF also as many want an all young Indian t20 side. It is not the most bright idea. Many dont want an overhaul though. We already have Jadhav and Kohli and Rahul and Rohit. What we want to do is replace the middle order. So no its not really a brand new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 you have to break an egg to make an omelette. DD will be champions CG and randomGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, laaloo said: Many dont want an overhaul though. We already have Jadhav and Kohli and Rahul and Rohit. What we want to do is replace the middle order. So no its not really a brand new team. Some want all youngsters, of course Kohli is still kind of youngster at 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Some want all youngsters, of course Kohli is still kind of youngster at 29. Lol kohli is not really a youngster. So you already have Rahul/Rohit as openers, Kohli at 3, Jadhav at 5. We are calling for a number 4 and 6. That could be Iyer and Pant. And Pant would open with Rahul I guess. So it's hardly an overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, laaloo said: Lol kohli is not really a youngster. So you already have Rahul/Rohit as openers, Kohli at 3, Jadhav at 5. We are calling for a number 4 and 6. That could be Iyer and Pant. And Pant would open with Rahul I guess. So it's hardly an overhaul. There was a thread where many wanted to even replace Rohit, who was u til recently pur best t20 bat with Raina, yes better than Kohli too. Rohit until t20 world cup was one of the best in the world in t20s. Probably still is. maniac and sarcastic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The sad part is none of the young Indians could capitalise on their starts and get a big one. All 30+ guys. That won’t work everyday. At least one guy should have taken the team home. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cricketics said: There was a thread where many wanted to even replace Rohit, who was u til recently pur best t20 bat with Raina, yes better than Kohli too. Rohit until t20 world cup was one of the best in the world in t20s. Probably still is. Dil khush kar diya...let me find another random post of yours and give it another upvote..consider it 2 likes for this post Edited May 2, 2017 by maniac Laaloo and Cricketics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Just now, maniac said: Dip khush kar diya...let me find another random post of yours and give it another upvote..consider it 2 likes for this post I am always Indian fan first than a player fan, , unlike some, you know :) Ultimate_Game and beetle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Pant is needed in the middle order more than the top order. Should start there and once Rohit is done with ODIs, maybe then he can be promoted to open. Pretty similar to the way Viru and Rohit started. He is still very raw to be opening at intl. level, which is a specialist position. Personally, I feel if Sanju Samson can get his act together, he has the potential to be our future opener in LOIs. Cricketics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kira Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Cricketics said: Problem is Delhi has under performed by not using their players well. Delhi is one of the best reams who might miss out on playoffs because of their own fault unlike teams like Bangalore who were piss poor. Delhi wasn't poor at all, they had the players but did not use them well so far. Delhi team management makes the punjab team management look like geniuses tweaker, Cricketics and beetle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, jalebi_bhai said: Pant is needed in the middle order more than the top order. Should start there and once Rohit is done with ODIs, maybe then he can be promoted to open. Pretty similar to the way Viru and Rohit started. He is still very raw to be opening at intl. level, which is a specialist position. Personally, I feel if Sanju Samson can get his act together, he has the potential to be our future opener in LOIs. Pant has succeeded at u-19 level and made a name for himself as a destructive opening batsman. He may not be able to do the same as a middle or lower order batsman. It's akin to pushing Sehwag down the order coz we need his hitting power lower down the order. It doesn't work that way. If you have a player who's pretty good at a particular spot, use him there instead of playing him an unfamiliar role just coz there's another gap somewhere else. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCCI Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Hope Pant is regularly sent at no.3 atleast.I would drop Matthews,get in Samuels and also Nadeem comes back in place of Jayant. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 TBH , This season, all Indian origin IPL players have prooved their worth. Unlike previous years where our bowlers were tanked, this year every match i watched, I could see that overall, Most have performed at par with foreign buys. Vis a vis to International stars, Our Spinners have been brilliant, Our batsmen have been at par and pacers have been really realy cool CoverDrive and beetle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Congratulations.. The SRH bowling was bit off colour yesterday... Nevertheless a good performance by the young team... I agree with 'Tics here that Dravid & team management have missed and possibly will miss the trick by sending all the young guns together in a bunch, upfront... The idea of IPL is to allow young players to learn skills playing along International stars (Indian & foreign). In DD batting lineup how will the young guns gain experience to build up innings or chase if they all bat together among themselves? This over analysing and too much thinking has screwed up Dravid's every assignments as coach/mentor... Look at VVS... I'm sure he's a shrewd brain but look he's allowed smart thinking to be implemented rather than being an Intelligent but stubborn mule.. G_B_ and beetle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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