GREAT NEWS- Nottinghamshire SIGNS UP PUJARA

[Ankit_sharma03]

Nottinghamshire have responded to James Pattinson’s Australia call-up by landing the signature of Indian international batsman Cheteshwar Pujara.

Arriving in mid-May, the 29-year-old is available to feature in home and away Specsavers County Championship fixtures against Gloucestershire, as well as matches against Glamorgan and Derbyshire, at the SSE Swalec and Trent Bridge respectively.

“We have looked around the world to find the right player,” said Nottinghamshire Director of Cricket Mick Newell.

“The most important thing was to sign someone with the quality to make us better, rather than limiting our options by saying it had to be a bowler.

“We have depth in our squad with regards bowling and - particularly as we’ll be without Alex Hales during that period - we’re more than happy to welcome a world-class batsman to the Club.”

 

“I’m ready for it. I’m already working on my skills and preparing for competitive cricket,” added Pujara.

“I love playing county cricket and Trent Bridge is a great venue. I’m really looking forward to my first experience there as a home player.

“The aim is to win as many games as possible so the team stays on top of the points table.”

 

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/news/2017/may/notts-capture-pujara-for-red-ball-stint.html?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

[mishra]

Great decision by Pujara

[Gollum]

Great news. I am sure both Che and Nottinghamshire club will benefit mutually from this decision. 

[tweaker]

Great decision by Pujara

[tweaker]

Some of our pacer's Ishant, Bhubaneswar, Umesh also should play in county cricket

[NareshK]

13 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Some of our pacer's Ishant, Bhubaneswar, Umesh also should play in county cricket

Bhuvi, Ishant have already played there, so not sure what they would gain by playing in county other than English batsmen getting used to their bowling.

 

Playing county cricket would have made a difference in the past when first class cricket in India was of poor quality and Indian teams didnt tour overseas regularly or play A tours but situation has changed now. There is no guarantee that whoever has done well in county cricket will do well in test cricket in England because quality of cricket is much superior in tests. 

 

Still it wouldnt hurt to stay match fit and get a feel for the conditions for players who are not part of other teams.

Edited May 4, 2017 by NareshK

[sandeep]

6 minutes ago, NareshK said:

Bhuvi, Ishant have already played there, so not sure what they would gain by playing in county other than English batsmen getting used to their bowling.

 

Playing county cricket would have made a difference in the past when first class cricket in India was of poor quality and Indian teams didnt tour overseas regularly or play A tours but situation has changed now. There is no guarantee that whoever has done well in county cricket will do well in test cricket in England because quality of cricket is much superior in tests. 

 

Still it wouldnt hurt to stay match fit and get a feel for the conditions for players who are not part of other teams.

FC cricket in England is played with a different ball than in India, and in very different conditions than in India.  Playing county cricket, with multiple games every week, and observing how other bowlers use the ball and conditions, is a valuable experience.   Indian pace bowlers hardly got reverse swing before Zak's county stint.   Zak came back and was a different bowler after that.

[NareshK]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

FC cricket in England is played with a different ball than in India, and in very different conditions than in India.  Playing county cricket, with multiple games every week, and observing how other bowlers use the ball and conditions, is a valuable experience.   Indian pace bowlers hardly got reverse swing before Zak's county stint.   Zak came back and was a different bowler after that.

But you're assuming Zak learned to bowl reverse swing there but I dont think that's true. Better chance of learning to bowl reverse in Indian conditions because ball gets scuffed up lot more in India than England. Also the SG ball helps reverse lot more than Duke. 

[chewy]

Trent Bridge, good place to test your mettle, probably one of the best pitches in the world for swing bowlers

[sandeep]

52 minutes ago, NareshK said:

But you're assuming Zak learned to bowl reverse swing there but I dont think that's true.

You don't want to agree with me, fine.   Zak's on record with what he learned in England.   

 

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Better chance of learning to bowl reverse in Indian conditions because ball gets scuffed up lot more in India than England. Also the SG ball helps reverse lot more than Duke. 

There's a lot that goes into reversing the ball.   A ball doesn't automatically get into a scuffed condition and will reverse - the scuffing has to be of a specific type and only on one side - i.e. not a naturally occurring state.  On top of that, you have to be intimately familiar with the behavior of that type of ball in that condition, and know what seam and wrist positions, what type of release are going to get the most out of it.  These are the types of things Zak learned in his county stint.  Cricinfo did a very good in-depth article on the 'history' how the English bowlers learned and got into reverse swing since the 90s.   Read it and you will see how much work and effort goes on into it - and as a normal practice in county cricket.   

 

I have been watching Indian cricket for 30 years now, and not until the last 8-10 years - i.e. after Zak's county stint - have I seen Indian team and bowlers actually work on, and get the ball to reverse.    This is one of the biggest reasons why our pace bowlers were nowhere near as successful - home or away.  They just didn't have the knowledge on the subject and hence were missing a huge part of a pacer's toolkit.  This is not the case anymore - and Indian bowlers are as good as any, getting reverse.   But that was not the case back then.  

 

And you missed my primary point in getting hung up on the reverse swing point - getting an extended stint bowling with the Duke ball in English conditions, surrounded by teammates and coaches who have been using it for years, you pick up a lot of meaningful data points about what is effective and what isn't.   It can be a huge difference maker for a young pacer to learn these things.   In fact, its a complete no-brainer for the 2nd rung prospects - the likes of Unadkat, Dhawal Kulkarni, or even a Nathu or a  Aniket, i.e. those who are not already in a pipeline with a good shout of making the Indian squad - to go to England and learn a few tricks.   It can only help them improve as bowlers, and increase their chances at national selection.  Make a few pounds while they are at it as well.  Can't say that demand will be high for an Indian pacer to play county cricket though.   Especially one that's not already an international star.   Too many Pakistanis has-beens and never-weres clogging up that supply line - and they are probably cheaper - from the County team perspective.

 

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

FC cricket in England is played with a different ball than in India, and in very different conditions than in India.  Playing county cricket, with multiple games every week, and observing how other bowlers use the ball and conditions, is a valuable experience.   Indian pace bowlers hardly got reverse swing before Zak's county stint.   Zak came back and was a different bowler after that.

 

That's not true. Manoj Prabhakar was an expert at reverse swing .

 

And played atleast a decade before Zak.

[nevada]

20 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

That's not true. Manoj Prabhakar was an expert at reverse swing .

 

And played atleast a decade before Zak.

Correct. He learnt it from the Pakistanis.

Edited May 4, 2017 by nevada

[sandeep]

52 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

That's not true. Manoj Prabhakar was an expert at reverse swing .

 

And played atleast a decade before Zak.

What happened after he stopped playing, and when was that?  Its hard to argue that there wasn't a gap of institutional knowledge in Indian pace bowling when it comes to reverse swing.  And Prabhakar, for all his efforts and bravado, never really bowled at a pace where reverse swing could be truly effective.  He was a honest medium pacer at best.  

[BeautifulGame]

What happened after he stopped playing, and when was that?  Its hard to argue that there wasn't a gap of institutional knowledge in Indian pace bowling when it comes to reverse swing.  And Prabhakar, for all his efforts and bravado, never really bowled at a pace where reverse swing could be truly effective.  He was a honest medium pacer at best.  

 

Remember the 96 series against South Africa.That Srinath spell? It was one of the lethel reverse swing bowling produced by any Indian bowler.

 

And Agarkar was a pretty good exponent of reverse swing as well.

 

The point is reverse swing wasn't something new or alien that Indian bowlers learnt only after Zak's stint at county cricket as u mentioned.

 

Also Zak was never bowled fast or even fast medium after his county stint .So not sure what has Prabhakar's pace has to do with the skill of having Reverse swing.

 

 

[sandeep]

12 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

Remember the 96 series against South Africa.That Srinath spell? It was one of the lethel reverse swing bowling produced by any Indian bowler.

 

And Agarkar was a pretty good exponent of reverse swing as well.

 

The point is reverse swing wasn't something new or alien that Indian bowlers learnt only after Zak's stint at county cricket as u mentioned.

 

Also Zak was never bowled fast or even fast medium after his county stint .So not sure what has Prabhakar's pace has to do with the skill of having Reverse swing.

 

 

 

 

Do you agree that Indian bowlers have started to use reverse swing a lot more consistently in the last 10 years?  Citing the odd exception bowler, or the odd spell does not disprove my point.   

[zaqw222222]

Excellent decision by Pujara, he has taken a 1 month rest after a long home season and by the time we play tests next in July he would have got very good match practice

[Cricketics]

Good, the more he plays the better. This will get him ready for the Lanka tour if that happens and the South African test series.

 

Anyways, a top class cricket player at his prime age should be playing more cricket at this day and age instead of sitting and watching Guju tv shows of Balaji Telefilms(since he doesn't watch IPL).

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

That's not true. Manoj Prabhakar was an expert at reverse swing .

 

And played atleast a decade before Zak.

Prabhakar didnt have the pace to reverse the ball .....

[mancalledsting]

Excellent move- well done Chepu

[tweaker]

Cheteshwar Pujara made his Nottinghamshire debut on Friday  in Glamorgan. 

 
 He walked out to bat at no.3 after Timm van der Gugten sent back opener Steven Mullaney and Pujara joined Jake Libby. He took a single on the fifth ball to add first runs in his balance, he scored another run soon but then there was a 12-ball null where he was stuck at the crease. He was accounted by Marchant de Lange for 2 after spending 36 minutes in the middle.