Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, kira said: I don't know, that's why I am asking, I have seen only a couple of deliveries from him this season, they were around 128-130 I guess Neither have I. If it is 132-135 as @Lord states, it is not too bad. He can be considered after Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh. P.S. Other than Unadkut, who are our lefties? All the top 5 are right-armers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Sandeep isnt in their league just because of pace.They havent done well even in IPL.If anything Aaron can be clubbed with them being as useless Why arent these guys feasting on him in IPL? Aeron don't belongs to that group, injuries is his problem, injuries has ruined him, there are at least 10+ deserving and talented bowlers are standing in queue ahead of sandip at the moment. Sandip is no doubt good but not good enough for internationals yet. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: Aeron don't belongs to that group, injuries is his problem, injuries has ruined him, there are at least 10+ deserving and talented bowlers are standing in queue ahead of sandip at the moment. Sandip is no doubt good but not good enough for internationals yet. Bowling brainlessly is also his problem. Least improved bowler in the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, speedheat said: Aeron don't belongs to that group, injuries is his problem, injuries has ruined him, there are at least 10+ deserving and talented bowlers are standing in queue ahead of sandip at the moment. Sandip is no doubt good but not good enough for internationals yet. hes not injured right now,still bowling crap mostly name those 10+ bowlers please (except Bhuvi,Bumrah,Shami and Umesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Bowling brainlessly is also his problem. Least improved bowler in the last 3 years. Injuries bro can happen to any athlete isn't it???,if he was brainless he wouldn't have found a place in Indian kit express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, speedheat said: Injuries bro can happen to any athlete isn't it???,if he was brainless he wouldn't have found a place in Indian kit It’s unfortunate he got injured. He got a shot at Team India because of his pace, but hasn’t done much. Gets bashed up in every IPL. Gets wickets in domestics because average batsmen can’t handle his pace. But if cannot perform at the big stage (IPL + Internationals), soon he will run out of chances. Also, his pace is no longer a novelty, we now have around 10 bowlers who can hurl the ball at 140+. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 hes not injured right now,still bowling crap mostly name those 10+ bowlers please (except Bhuvi,Bumrah,Shami and Umesh) Bowled well vs Delhi and rcb its only one match he got thrashed, also it did looked like he haven't fully recovered yet, Siraj,rajput,sangwan,kejrolia,aniket c, siani,even unadkat,warrior, kaul,sarn, etc are all ahead of him based in skill sets and raw ingredients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 1 minute ago, speedheat said: Bowled well vs Delhi and rcb its only one match he got thrashed, also it did looked like he haven't fully recovered yet, Siraj,rajput,sangwan,kejrolia,aniket c, siani,even unadkat,warrior, kaul,earn etc are all ahead of him based in skill sets and raw ingredients All these guys are far below him based on performance and numbers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Lord said: 28 wickets at around 27 with ER 7.5 pretty decent for someone whose team finished last Decent performances are not enough for pacers who lack both pace and bounce. They need to perform exceptionally and, even then, one or two bad matches and they will lose their spot even if they are somehow picked in the international side. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: Bowled well vs Delhi and rcb its only one match he got thrashed, also it did looked like he haven't fully recovered yet, Siraj,rajput,sangwan,kejrolia,aniket c, siani,even unadkat,warrior, kaul,sarn, etc are all ahead of him based in skill sets and raw ingredients Unadkat and Warrier why are all these with raw ingredients and skill not as successful in IPL? Only Aniket and Kaul have been close Who's Siani? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Decent performances are not enough for pacers who lack both pace and bounce. They need to perform exceptionally and, even then, one or two bad matches and they will lose their spot even if they are somehow picked in the international side. thats true.performances matter only when you lack pace,else getting hammered is okay as long as its at 140+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Magneto said: All these guys are far below him based on performance and numbers though. Have IPL performances even been that important for choosing bowlers for international matches ? speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 It’s unfortunate he got injured. He got a shot at Team India because of his pace, but hasn’t done much. Gets bashed up in every IPL. Gets wickets in domestics because average batsmen can’t handle his pace. But if cannot perform at the big stage (IPL + Internationals), soon he will run out of chances. Also, his pace is no longer a novelty, we now have around 10 bowlers who can hurl the ball at 140+. How international matches does he played to judge him??? Hmm?? Poor guy just keep on getting injured OK I will take those all 10 bowlers who could hurl it pass 140k over aeron but not any dibbly doblies They are helpless on flat tracks express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lord said: thats true.performances matter only when you lack pace,else getting hammered is okay as long as its at 140+ It happens only when you have 2 or 3 guys bowling 140+. Now that we have 10 or 12 guys bowling 140+..... these quick guys will have to pull up their socks and perform....or be left out like Aaron. Competition is the key to generating quality. Edited May 7, 2017 by express bowling Mosher, Lord and speedheat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 All these guys are far below him based on performance and numbers though. Lol blind following of stats and performance and numbers will lead you to greats like vinnu kumar and dindas etc its skill sets with pace is the most important thing,just look at Aussies you can find examples their, they dropped Faulkner for patto. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Unadkat and Warrier why are all these with raw ingredients and skill not as successful in IPL? Only Aniket and Kaul have been close Who's Siani? So you asking to judge a team or pacer based on IPL tamasha??? lol If so then we will have gauti bhajji robin etc playing for us lol Navdeep siani is another tall,fast and skilled young prospect from delhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, speedheat said: Lol blind following of stats and performance and numbers will lead you to greats like vinnu kumar and dindas etc its skill sets with pace is the most important thing,just look at Aussies you can find examples their, they dropped Faulkner for patto. patto had bad stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, speedheat said: So you asking to judge a team or pacer based on IPL tamasha??? lol If so then we will have gauti bhajji robin etc playing for us lol Navdeep siani is another tall,fast and skilled young prospect from delhi so what performances are you judging them on? EA cricket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 patto had bad stats? He edges ahead of faulkner In terms of skills and pace that proves my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 so what performances are you judging them on? EA cricket? I prefer to judge pacer on skill sets then blindly follow their numbers and yea Their is something called domestic cricket, 50/50 format 4 day format which provides much larger range and view to judge a pacer then iplt20 tamasha , but you have to come out of your EA sports mode to understand that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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