Unleashed Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: So let me ask this ? If Dravid decides to quit coaching Indian U-19 and A team players ,who loses more ? Indian cricket or Dravid ? Everyone wants to associate with and work in IPL in one way or another. Ifyou ban youth and domestic coaches from working in IPL,it's only Indian cricket that loses out and will be left with 3rd rate coaches . Good riddance Guha . He also says that at one of the players camp, one of the national coaches wasn't available due to IPL. Says that country must take precedence over IPL and suggest that the coaching salaries should be increased so that financially they don't take a hit by ignoring IPL. What's wrong in that? I love the IPL but if a coach is ignoring a national camp due to IPL then it just doesn't sit right with me. AK007 and diga 1 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: What a nonsense mail. His job was to advise COA on the intricacies of Indian board and domestic structure to CoA and Vinod Rai .That is the remit of Guha.Vinod Rai himself mentioned that few days back. Heck the remit of CoA in itself is implementing Lodha reforms . Where does the appointment of coach and contracts to players come into that ? What qualification he himself has in to talk about the performance of judging on Indian captain and advising on it.He is a historian not an administrator. And what is wrong with coaches at junior level working with IPL during the two months.They will gain great knowledge working alongside the likes of Fleming Moody Bond and Donald .Will only help in imparting them on youngsters.Clearly his hate for IPL coming through rather than being objective. Talk about absuing his powers and over crossing his limits.Absolute nonsense email that. Couldnt agree more. Just beacuse he resigned doesnt gives him any grounds to hide of ineffective , lobbyist and sold out CoA has been so far. Also he has no qualification, apart from more than a fan to judge them greats who have served the nation AK007, sscomp32 and Ironhide 3 Link to comment
beetle Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Talk about a little power going to their head. Ironhide, AK007, sandeep and 2 others 5 Link to comment
diga Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I think his concerns are valid... only if BCCI had played handsomely to coaches. Pollack and AK007 1 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, diga said: I think his concerns are valid... only if BCCI had played handsomely to coaches. The national coaches are very well paid. Kumble is paid more than the superstar captain. He is just being anti ipl When ipl is played...almost no other cricket is played in India.So why can't the coaches be employed in ipl? Edited June 2, 2017 by beetle AK007, sscomp32, sandeep and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Lannister Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Quote "Dhoni was captain of the Indian team while holding a stake in a firm that represented some current India players." No wonder he refused to give new players a chance. Some good insights. Quote In case due process had to be followed since Kumble's original appointment was only for one year, why was this not done during April and May, when the IPL was on? If indeed the captain and the Head Coach were not getting along, why was not this attended to as soon as the Australia series was over in late March? Why was it left until the last minutes, when a major international tournament was imminent, and when the uncertainty would undermine the morale and ability to focus of the coach, the captain and the team> And surely fiving senior players the impression that they may have a veto power over the coach is another example of superstar culture gone berserk? Such a veto power is not permitted to any other top level professional team in any other sport in any other country. Already, in a dismaying departure from international norms, current Indian players enjoy a veto power on who can be the members of the commentary team. If it is to be coaches next, then perhaps the selectors and even office-bearers will follow? 3 Pollack and AK007 1 1 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, diga said: I think his concerns are valid... only if BCCI had played handsomely to coaches. Yeah how much handsome are we talking here ? Kumble is paid one and half crores more than Kohli the superstar and still wants more. Link to comment
diga Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 minute ago, BeautifulGame said: Yeah how much handsome are we talking here ? Kumble is paid one and half crores more than Kohli the superstar and still wants more. Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ? BG, you can do better than trolling.. AK007 and Ironhide 2 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ? BG, you can do better than trolling.. But the point is ,why should they be compensated ? IPL is also Indian domestic cricket. Only Indian players gain by working with Dravid in IPL. Pant and Nair and Samson gain a lot by working with him .Why should that be stopped ? Indian cricket loses a lot and gains nothing by that . Guha is trying to make it IPL vs Indian cricket ,which for me is absolutely ridiculous. Ironhide, beetle, AK007 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
diga Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: But the point is ,why should they be compensated ? IPL is also Indian domestic cricket. Only Indian players gain by working with Dravid in IPL. Pant and Nair and Samson gain a lot by working with him .Why should that be stopped ? Indian cricket loses a lot and gains nothing by that . Guha is trying to make it IPL vs Indian cricket ,which for me is absolutely ridiculous. There are 7 issues raised in that letter of which IPL is one of the points.. what about the other 6? AK007 1 Link to comment
CG Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 There are 7 issues raised in that letter of which IPL is one of the points.. what about the other 6? He is spot on about Dhoni .:) Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Guha has raised some valid points. I urge posters to go through his letter in stead of attacking him for following a certain political ideology. sandeep, AK007 and Pollack 2 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, diga said: There are 7 issues raised in that letter of which IPL is one of the points.. what about the other 6? Is them 7 issues are to do with implementation of Lodha Commission? As a administator , if he isnt objective, He is either inefficient or Corrupt. I think he is both Ironhide, sscomp32 and AK007 3 Link to comment
beetle Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, diga said: Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ? BG, you can do better than trolling.. Are all players paid the same as kohli? Other coaches will never be paid as handsomely as the national team coach.period. Domestic cricketers and coaches need to be paid better but it will never be the same as national team and rightly so. Saying all coaches should be paid better so they can't play ipl is stupid .Ipl plats then in crores for 2 months. What next...compensate players who don't get to play ipl. Why not give them the time off during ipl to do what they want. No cricket is played that time other than ipl. sscomp32, someone, AK007 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Players should have a say in coach but not defacto power. They should not dictate the coach. Don't know why players and captain kohli is defended here. If they have their way they want a dummy like Manmohan Singh to coach while they enjoy their freedom. Wait it already happened with Duncan Fletcher. Now they smelt the blood and want it to continue that way. Mystique_Myth and sandeep 2 Link to comment
spe11binder Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 He goes on at length about how conflict of interest is a big problem in Indian cricket currently, and then in the same letter goes on to suggest Javagal Srinath as one of the members of COA, who is also an ICC employed match referee. How is that not a conflict of interest when dealing with ICC on matters of revenue and administration? sscomp32, Ironhide, someone and 2 others 5 Link to comment
sscomp32 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, CG said: He is spot on about Dhoni .:) Shouldn't the same contract rules apply to Vijay/Pujara too? Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
CG Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Shouldn't the same contract rules apply to Vijay/Pujara too? I was referring to Dhoni owning shares of Rhiti sports while being captain which Guha has raised. Link to comment
Yoda-esque Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The man loves his pen Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk sandeep 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Old man still stuck in 80s just like this kaurava brigade LOL Glad he is gone He didn't mention anything about rhiti sports... he spoke about Grade A contract.. Rhiti sports has ojha jaddu and raina.. ohja was long long gone , jaddu still in all 3 formats and raina was in team till he got lazy last few months..... losers find something which he didn'teven talk about in this statement Edited June 2, 2017 by Viper mishra, Ultimate_Game, sscomp32 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
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