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Ten little Soldier boys went out to dine; One choked his little self and then there were nine;
Nine little Soldier boys sat up very late; One overslept himself and then there were eight;
Eight little Soldier boys traveling in Devon; One said he’d stay there and then there were seven;
Seven little Soldier boys chopping up sticks; One chopped himself in halves and then there were six;
Six little Soldier boys playing with a hive; A bumblebee stung one and then there were five;
Five little Soldier boys going in for law; One got into Chancery and then there were four;
Four little Soldier boys going out to sea; A red herring swallowed one and then there were three;
Three little Soldier boys walking in the zoo; A big bear hugged one and then there were two;
Two little Soldier boys playing in the sun; One got frizzled up and then there was One;
One little Soldier boy left all alone; He went out and hanged himself and then there were none.

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2 hours ago, sarchasm said:

Ten little Soldier boys went out to dine; One choked his little self and then there were nine;
Nine little Soldier boys sat up very late; One overslept himself and then there were eight;
Eight little Soldier boys traveling in Devon; One said he’d stay there and then there were seven;
Seven little Soldier boys chopping up sticks; One chopped himself in halves and then there were six;
Six little Soldier boys playing with a hive; A bumblebee stung one and then there were five;
Five little Soldier boys going in for law; One got into Chancery and then there were four;
Four little Soldier boys going out to sea; A red herring swallowed one and then there were three;
Three little Soldier boys walking in the zoo; A big bear hugged one and then there were two;
Two little Soldier boys playing in the sun; One got frizzled up and then there was One;
One little Soldier boy left all alone; He went out and hanged himself and then there were none.

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Have no problem with the superstar culture, a game needs superstars what do characters like guha know about sports culture. Leftist Characters like guha are the reason India sucked in the 80s and early 90s.

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Guha the idiotic snake has also attacked Rahul Dravid for coaching Indian Under 19 and India A team but only coaching for ten months. He does not want Dravid coaching the IPL and hates IPL to the core.

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Have no problem with the superstar culture, a game needs superstars what do characters like guha know about sports culture. Leftist Characters like guha are the reason India sucked in the 80s and early 90s.

Game needs superstars but players should not have decide who should be commentators nor Coach.Due process has to be followed.His points on conflict of interest are valid.

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17 minutes ago, Unleashed said:

Don't like the man at all but he has a very valid point regarding Kumble/Dravid/Gavaskar. 

Dravid? I dont think anything is mentioned on him. He has disputed Dhoni getting an A-grade contract

 

ps: Ok.. He has indirectly hit out against IPL coaches who have 10month contract with BCCI

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29 minutes ago, diga said:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1100563.html

 

Has come down very hard on Superstar culture/Gavaskar/Dhoni/Kumble Fiasco

What a nonsense mail.

 

His job was to advise COA on the intricacies of Indian board and domestic structure to CoA and Vinod Rai .That is the remit of Guha.Vinod Rai himself mentioned that few days back.

 

Heck the remit of CoA in itself is implementing Lodha reforms .

 

Where does the appointment of coach and contracts to players come into that ?

 

What qualification he himself has in to talk about the performance of judging on Indian captain and advising on it.He is a historian not an administrator.

 

And what is wrong with coaches at junior level working with IPL during the two months.They will gain great knowledge working alongside the likes of Fleming Moody Bond and Donald .Will only help in imparting them on youngsters.Clearly his hate for IPL coming through rather than being objective.

 

 

Talk about absuing his powers and over crossing his limits.Absolute nonsense email that.

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26 minutes ago, Unleashed said:

Don't like the man at all but he has a very valid point regarding Kumble/Dravid/Gavaskar. 

So let me ask this ?

 

If Dravid decides to quit coaching Indian U-19 and A team players ,who loses more ?

Indian cricket or Dravid ?

 

Everyone wants to associate with and work in IPL in one way or another.

 

Ifyou ban youth and domestic coaches from working in IPL,it's only Indian cricket that loses out and will be left with 3rd rate coaches .

 

Good riddance Guha .

 

 

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10 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

So let me ask this ?

 

If Dravid decides to quit coaching Indian U-19 and A team players ,who loses more ?

Indian cricket or Dravid ?

 

Everyone wants to associate with and work in IPL in one way or another.

 

Ifyou ban youth and domestic coaches from working in IPL,it's only Indian cricket that loses out and will be left with 3rd rate coaches .

 

Good riddance Guha .

 

 

He also says that at one of the players camp, one of the national coaches wasn't available due to IPL. Says that country must take precedence over IPL and suggest that the coaching salaries should be increased so that financially they don't take a hit by ignoring IPL. 

 

What's wrong in that? I love the IPL but if a coach is ignoring a national camp due to IPL then it just doesn't sit right with me. 

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16 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

What a nonsense mail.

 

His job was to advise COA on the intricacies of Indian board and domestic structure to CoA and Vinod Rai .That is the remit of Guha.Vinod Rai himself mentioned that few days back.

 

Heck the remit of CoA in itself is implementing Lodha reforms .

 

Where does the appointment of coach and contracts to players come into that ?

 

What qualification he himself has in to talk about the performance of judging on Indian captain and advising on it.He is a historian not an administrator.

 

And what is wrong with coaches at junior level working with IPL during the two months.They will gain great knowledge working alongside the likes of Fleming Moody Bond and Donald .Will only help in imparting them on youngsters.Clearly his hate for IPL coming through rather than being objective.

 

 

Talk about absuing his powers and over crossing his limits.Absolute nonsense email that.

Couldnt agree more. Just beacuse he resigned doesnt gives him any grounds to hide of ineffective , lobbyist and sold out CoA has been so far.

Also he has no qualification, apart from more than a fan to judge them greats who have served the nation

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12 minutes ago, diga said:

I think his concerns are valid... only if BCCI had played handsomely to coaches.

The national coaches are very well paid.

Kumble is paid more than the superstar captain.

He is just being anti ipl

When ipl is played...almost no other cricket is played in India.So why can't the coaches be employed in ipl?

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"Dhoni was captain of the Indian team while holding a stake in a firm that represented some current India players."

No wonder he refused to give new players a chance. :two_thumbs_up: 

 

Some good insights.

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In case due process had to be followed since Kumble's original appointment was only for one year, why was this not done during April and May, when the IPL was on? If indeed the captain and the Head Coach were not getting along, why was not this attended to as soon as the Australia series was over in late March? Why was it left until the last minutes, when a major international tournament was imminent, and when the uncertainty would undermine the morale and ability to focus of the coach, the captain and the team> And surely fiving senior players the impression that they may have a veto power over the coach is another example of superstar culture gone berserk? Such a veto power is not permitted to any other top level professional team in any other sport in any other country. Already, in a dismaying departure from international norms, current Indian players enjoy a veto power on who can be the members of the commentary team. If it is to be coaches next, then perhaps the selectors and even office-bearers will follow?

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1 minute ago, BeautifulGame said:

Yeah how much handsome are we talking here ?

 

Kumble is paid one and half crores more than Kohli the superstar and still wants more.


 

Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ?

 

BG, you can do better than trolling.. 

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Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ?

 

 

 

BG, you can do better than trolling.. 

 

 

 

 

But the point is ,why should they be compensated ? IPL is also Indian domestic cricket.

 

 

Only Indian players gain by working with Dravid in IPL.

 

 

Pant and Nair and Samson gain a lot by working with him .Why should that be stopped ?

 

Indian cricket loses a lot and gains nothing by that .

 

Guha is trying to make it IPL vs Indian cricket ,which for me is absolutely ridiculous.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

But the point is ,why should they be compensated ? IPL is also Indian domestic cricket.

 

 

 

 

Only Indian players gain by working with Dravid in IPL.

 

 

 

 

Pant and Nair and Samson gain a lot by working with him .Why should that be stopped ?

 

 

Indian cricket loses a lot and gains nothing by that .

 

Guha is trying to make it IPL vs Indian cricket ,which for me is absolutely ridiculous.

 

 

There are 7 issues raised in that letter of which IPL is one of the points.. what about the other 6?

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2 minutes ago, diga said:

There are 7 issues raised in that letter of which IPL is one of the points.. what about the other 6?

Is them 7 issues are to do with implementation of Lodha Commission? As a administator , if he isnt objective, He is either inefficient or Corrupt. I think he is both

 

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28 minutes ago, diga said:

Are all coaches paid on par with Kumble? How much does Dravid/Bangar get for their work with Ind U-19 ?

 

BG, you can do better than trolling.. 

Are all players paid the same as kohli?

Other coaches will never be paid as handsomely as the national team coach.period.

 

Domestic cricketers and coaches need to be paid better but it will never be the same as national team and rightly so. 

Saying all coaches should be paid better so they can't play ipl is stupid .Ipl plats then in crores for 2 months.

 

What next...compensate players who don't get to play ipl.

Why not give them the time off during ipl to do what they want. No cricket is played that time other than ipl.

 

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Players should have a say in coach but not defacto power. They should not dictate the coach. Don't know why players and captain kohli is defended here. If they have their way they want a dummy like Manmohan Singh to coach while they enjoy their freedom. Wait it already happened with Duncan Fletcher. Now they smelt the blood and want it to continue that way. :phehe:

 

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He goes on at length about how conflict of interest is a big problem in Indian cricket currently, and then in the same letter goes on to suggest Javagal Srinath as one of the members of COA, who is also an ICC employed match referee. How is that not a conflict of interest when dealing with ICC on matters of revenue and administration?

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Shouldn't the same contract rules apply to Vijay/Pujara too? 

I was referring to Dhoni owning shares of Rhiti sports while being captain which Guha has raised.

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Old man still stuck in 80s just like this kaurava brigade LOL

 

Glad he is gone 

 

He didn't mention anything about rhiti sports... he spoke about Grade A contract.. 

 

Rhiti sports has ojha jaddu and raina.. ohja was long long gone , jaddu still in all 3 formats and raina was in team till he got lazy last few months..... losers find something which he didn'teven talk about in this statement 

 

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21 minutes ago, CG said:

I was referring to Dhoni owning shares of Rhiti sports while being captain which Guha has raised.

Should have mentioned it properly then. 

 

P.S. COmpletely disagree with your view point in any case.  

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12 minutes ago, Viper said:

Old man still stuck in 80s just like this kaurava brigade LOL

 

Glad he is gone 

 

He didn't mention anything about rhiti sports... he spoke about Grade A contract.. 

 

Rhiti sports has ojha jaddu and raina.. ohja was long long gone , jaddu still in all 3 formats and raina was in team till he got lazy last few months..... losers find something which he didn'teven talk about in this statement 

 

What's new? ADF is famous for that. 

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Old man still stuck in 80s just like this kaurava brigade LOL

 

 

 

Glad he is gone 

 

 

 

He didn't mention anything about rhiti sports... he spoke about Grade A contract.. 

 

 

 

Rhiti sports has ojha jaddu and raina.. ohja was long long gone , jaddu still in all 3 formats and raina was in team till he got lazy last few months..... losers find something which he didn'teven talk about in this statement 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol why don't u first read the whole letter then post bs.Guha mentions Dhoni multiple times.572311c83f8aa4fa6ba5c9ee4922f17b.jpg

 

Go and read page 2 of the letter.Guha says Superstar ego started with Dhoni being allowed to hold shares with Rhiti being captain.

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4 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

So Hatsha bhogle was kicked out for criticizing kohli at kohlis behest..a whole lot of laundary being washed

 

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk

 

 

Cos members of CoA have nothing to loose. They cause the fire, sell BCCI and feed on fan frustration while walk away and its impossible to prove if they got any cut from Manohar and Co.

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13 minutes ago, CG said:

 

 

 

 

Lol why don't u first read the whole letter then post bs.Guha mentions Dhoni multiple times.572311c83f8aa4fa6ba5c9ee4922f17b.jpg

 

Go and read page 2 of the letter.Guha says Superstar ego started with Dhoni being allowed to hold shares with Rhiti being captain.

Letter personally written to please people like you by one of you people:giggle:

 

Like I said that so called csk and rhiti sports players are still playing in that indian squad in tests and loi

 

According to him tests is everything... usual 80s mindset which will please uncles and grandpas..  Reality is you can't spread the game with people like this in charge lol glad he is gone or thrown out what ever happened.. 

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1 hour ago, Pollack said:

Players should have a say in coach but not defacto power. They should not dictate the coach. Don't know why players and captain kohli is defended here. If they have their way they want a dummy like Manmohan Singh to coach while they enjoy their freedom. Wait it already happened with Duncan Fletcher. Now they smelt the blood and want it to continue that way. :phehe:

 

It's a sport not corporate world. These players maybe employees but they hold supreme power. Just look at footballers as well. That's reality of the game.

 

Also, had it been just a Kohli vs Kumble issue, then some discussion/debate makes sense. But the reality is many players are unhappy with the coach, so coach is the problem and no debate here.

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