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3 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

Didn't Kohli hint post match that Aswin would get in against non-subcontinental teams? So we can expect him against Saffers.

Who is he expected to replace, that is the big issue.

 

Can't replace a big hitter like Pandya.

 

So, it has to be one of Umesh and Bhuvi. Bhuvi is an end-over specialist and would combine really well with Bumrah at the death. And Umesh is picking up loads of wickets.

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6 minutes ago, New guy said:

Why on earth for? Ridiculous some people here, absolutely biased beyond all belief

Bhuvi hasnt done well against Sa ever, those batsman play him better

Shami is obv a better bowler then bhuvi 

N if u hear commentators....seam bowling works better then swing 

 

SO if shami is fit get him in , he is a wkt taking bowler 

 

Amla, de kock, ABDV are World class batsman so u need a world class and more skilled bowler . He is more of wkt taking bowler.....u cant contain these batsman so its better get them out

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Bhuvi hasnt done well against Sa ever, those batsman play him better

Shami is obv a better bowler then bhuvi 

N if u hear commentators....seam bowling works better then swing 

 

SO if shami is fit get him in , he is a wkt taking bowler 

Except not only is Bhuvi bowling seam, he is taking wickets with shorter bowl etc. He outbowled Shami in the warm ups in taking wickets. 

 

I have no idea why you look at past performances when it comes to Bhuvi but not with someone like Yadav whose current form is looked at. As I said, height of being biased. Lets look at past performance of all our batsmen and bowlers vs SA and then choose the team? What has Bumrah done vs SA?

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Bhuvi hasnt done well against Sa ever, those batsman play him better

Shami is obv a better bowler then bhuvi 

N if u hear commentators....seam bowling works better then swing 

 

SO if shami is fit get him in , he is a wkt taking bowler 

Because bhuvi can' t bowl anything other than swing na????

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Just now, beetle said:

Because bhuvi can' t bowl anything other than swing na????

No he can he has improved......but shami is in diff class

At times having not a good record against particular team can be mental disadvantage and there is bit of more diff still

Shami cuts the ball in more stronger way, his pace is better to....so there is still a lot of diff.

 

4 minutes ago, New guy said:

Except not only is Bhuvi bowling seam, he is taking wickets with shorter bowl etc. He outbowled Shami in the warm ups in taking wickets. 

 

I have no idea why you look at past performances when it comes to Bhuvi but not with someone like Yadav whose current form is looked at. As I said, height of being biased. Lets look at past performance of all our batsmen and bowlers vs SA and then choose the team? What has Bumrah done vs SA?

Didnt i say play Bhuvi against Pak for sure.....m just picking player acc to opp...

Coz bhuvi bowling is better against these technique less hacks of pakistan batsman, so i feel shami bowling wud be better again SA batsman . 

Bhuvi bowling will work against SL batsman to.......

 

When has bumrah played against Sa???????

 

 

N  both of u......should i talk about bhuvi fielding today????? 

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4 minutes ago, New guy said:

Kohli has never played well in England, we should drop him

In eng against in test......is this test

He has a 100 against in eng in odi.....he made highest  runs in CT2013 final against Eng 

 

Find me a better batsman then kohli

 

M atleast choosing a better bowler for a particular match

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6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

No he can he has improved......but shami is in diff class

At times having not a good record against particular team can be mental disadvantage and there is bit of more diff still

Shami cuts the ball in more stronger way, his pace is better to....so there is still a lot of diff.

 

Didnt i say play Bhuvi against Pak for sure.....m just picking player acc to opp...

Coz bhuvi bowling is better against these technique less hacks of pakistan batsman, so i feel shami bowling wud be better again SA batsman . 

Bhuvi bowling will work against SL batsman to.......

 

When has bumrah played against Sa???????

 

 

N  both of u......should i talk about bhuvi fielding today????? 

Yes lets drop Kohli too he fielded bad and dropped catches in one or two matches previously

 

Biased, biased biased. Thats all your posts are nothing else buddy. Its easy to see. Turn on some youtube video about speed guns they will help you sleep, its night time. With which player in the world is past performance seen over current form? What a load of tosh

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

No he can he has improved......but shami is in diff class

At times having not a good record against particular team can be mental disadvantage and there is bit of more diff still

Shami cuts the ball in more stronger way, his pace is better to....so there is still a lot of diff.

 

Didnt i say play Bhuvi against Pak for sure.....m just picking player acc to opp...

Coz bhuvi bowling is better against these technique less hacks of pakistan batsman, so i feel shami bowling wud be better again SA batsman . 

Bhuvi bowling will work against SL batsman to.......

 

When has bumrah played against Sa???????

 

 

N  both of u......should i talk about bhuvi fielding today????? 

If you want to say shami is a better bowler according to you.say that.

Why say something which suggests he is only swing bowler ?That is ignorant.

 

As for fielding....except for jaddu ,who fielded well.Shami and bhuvi are same quality fielders.

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1 minute ago, beetle said:

If you want to say shami is a better bowler according to you.say that.

Why say something which suggests he is only swing bowler ?That is ignorant.

 

As for fielding....except for jaddu ,who fielded well.Shami and bhuvi are same quality fielders.

Some awesome logic. Don't look at current form, look at what someone did years ago against one particular team. We should change team every time we play a different team. And using one time fielding lapses. His post seems full of Lahori logic

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1 minute ago, New guy said:

Yes lets drop Kohli too he fielded bad and dropped catches in one or two matches previously

 

Baised, biased biased. Thats all your posts are nothing else buddy. Its easy to see. Turn on some youtube video about speed guns they will help you sleep, its night time

Dude go check my post were i wrote Bhuvi is must against Pak, SL, ENg , WI 

I was not in favour of playing umesh today incase shami was fit .......

 

M again Saying If shami is fit.......go read my posts 1st......before making senseless remarks .

Since u dnt read....i have also written not to include ashwin against Aus, as aussies batsman have always played against him well in ODI

 

Against SL its likely to be overcast ill again push for bhuvi's case . M just in favour of using particular bowlers against particular teams

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2 minutes ago, beetle said:

If you want to say shami is a better bowler according to you.say that.

Why say something which suggests he is only swing bowler ?That is ignorant.

 

As for fielding....except for jaddu ,who fielded well.Shami and bhuvi are same quality fielders.

U want me to show u their stats to prove shami is a better bowler 

I didnt say bhuvi is only a swing bowler , he has added seam bowling dimension i have written a lot of times......but shami is better seam bowler them him and many in world

 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

U want me to show u their stats to prove shami is a better bowler 

I didnt say bhuvi is only a swing bowler , he has added seam bowling dimension i have written a lot of times......but shami is better seam bowler them him and many in world

 

You want to say shami is a better bowler...no problem with that.

But you suggested bhuvi is limited to swing in your post .

 

 I personally think bumrah is the one who did not bowl to expectations but then he did not get to bowl at the death which is his speciality...so I guess that would be unfair.

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2 minutes ago, beetle said:

You want to say shami is a better bowler...no problem with that.

But you suggested bhuvi is limited to swing in your post .

 

 I personally think bumrah is the one who did not bowl to expectations but then he did not get to bowl at the death which is his speciality...so I guess that would be unfair.

No didnt say that ......

Bumrah role wud come more into play against Better batting side specially the destructives one in the end. But bhuvi is still more of a swing bowler then seam.....didnt say he is one dimensional at all. He has become a very good LOI bowler by adding a lot of skill....so never said he is one dimensional. M also saying here before someone call me biased he is a better t20 bowler then shami, shami umesh both are poor t20 bowlers. 

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

Shami is a better ODI bowler than any other Indian bowler for sure, whether we are talking about pacers or spinners.

 

The only issue with him is that his current form is not clear to us, as he has not played international cricket for 6 months.

His only problem is fitness.....He did had his share of match practice in few domestic, t20 and warm up game and nowere he looked to off radar. The only worry is his fitness and can he give his 100% or even 90

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

His only problem is fitness.....He did had his share of match practice in few domestic, t20 and warm up game and nowere he looked to off radar. The only worry is his fitness and can he give his 100% or even 90

Shami does not look unfit to me. Otherwise, could he have bowled at full pace ?

 

He is looking a tad rusty which can only be rectified via match practice.

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

Shami does not look unfit to me. Otherwise, could he have bowled at full pace ?

 

He is looking a tad rusty which can only be rectified via match practice.

I doubt his fitness, as wenever he is fit ull make it out by his runup.......if he is fit and running in well ull seee his legs in air during the runup and there is also a pivot in his action to. 

In warmup he was running gingerly and he was holding his action a bit concentrating more on line n length, his speeds looked good coz he is a world class bowler. In IPL he was bowling with full body

 

So m not sure if he is fit or was holding himself in warmup game ......also in warmup games many player choose to experiment rather worrying about form . 

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