Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: they are not going to change the team now,i imagine it will be a patta at the Oval.They should not give the ball to Pandya at all. If it's a patta then all the more reason for playing someone like Shami coz Pak hacks will be able to slog Ashwin on a patta but find it tough against Shami's pace. Vilander 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Pakistan is weak against pace Better against spin All our 4 fast bowlers bowled really well against Pakistan in the group stage Pitches here are not aiding spinners that much and pacers are doing better Play Shami ( or Umesh if Shami is not 100% ) in place of Ashwin Why was this thread merged ?? The title talks about the importance of 4 fast bowers against Pakistan. This was not a general discussion about the changes needed for the final but stressed on the importance of 4 fast bowlers against Pakistan. I would request a mod to get back the original thread. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: What about sitting Jadeja for Shami ? nooooooooo Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: If Pandya is not given the ball , why is he in the team ? Pandya's job is 70 % with the ball and 30 % with the bat. If Pandya isn't gonna bowl - might as well let Shami/Umesh or Ashwin be in for him Ashwin in place of Pandya is not a bad Idea. Depending on the pitch. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 so yeah fast pitch - Shami in place of Ashwin flat pitch - Shami in place of Pandya. Link to comment
Late Cut Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Shami for Ashwin. Dinesh Karthik in for Pandya (maybe). Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 We can go with 10 men and get the job done Back on topic depending up on pitch If its same track as today Ashwin out shami in and we are good Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Without Umesh and Shami, the attack is looking toothless. I would bring in both Umesh and Shami. Ashwin is going to be useless. Pandya is not of much help. And we have enough hitters to take care of batting. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Have a look at the pitch 1st see how many lefties they have Make sure about Shami's fitness, if sure try to get him in I fear for yuvi against Hassan ali, shadab n even hafeez Link to comment
DGBOSS Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, bleaf27 said: Alright so this game wrapped up , we are down to business for the final hurdle against Pakistan. They are definitely an improved side since the first game but we need to draw out our flaws and find the right combination . This 11 isn't doing the job well enough against a rejuvenated side. Biggest issues is Ashwin/Jadeja/Pandya/ Shami Rohit Shikhar Kohli Yuvi Jadhav Dhoni Bhuvi Bumrah We have 3 spots left and 4 people to possible toss up. Ashwin = Better bowler but batting ability Jadeja = All round ability plus fielding Pandya = as a 3rd seamer not working and batting is very hit and miss Shami - 3rd seamer - Strike bowler. Wht would you guys do ? Will keep pandya for sure. His pacy innings even if he can get 20-25 is very useful. Will bring in Shami for Jadhav. Thats it. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, DGBOSS said: Will keep pandya for sure. His pacy innings even if he can get 20-25 is very useful. Will bring in Shami for Jadhav. Thats it. You will take another batsman our for another bowler ? So you want Bhuvi , Bumrah , Shami, Ashwin , Jadeja and Pandya all bowling ? Link to comment
asterix Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Shami should play. Today Kedar bailed out in the middle overs... Pandya was being tonked all over the park... bleaf27 1 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, asterix said: Shami should play. Today Kedar bailed out in the middle overs... Pandya was being tonked all over the park... I agree , Pandya is not being a strike bowler - any batsman who wants to spend time in the middle can put Pandya away easy - SL and BD showed how easy it is. I'd be tempted to bring Karthik for Pandya and Shami for Ashwin/Jadeja Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: I agree , Pandya is not being a strike bowler - any batsman who wants to spend time in the middle can put Pandya away easy - SL and BD showed how easy it is. I'd be tempted to bring Karthik for Pandya and Shami for Ashwin/Jadeja Not taking risk bringing in karthik man.. that too in finals. Just can't see that happening. Pandya is batting allrounder he started bowling just 4 or 5 years back sandeep and Cricketics 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: I agree , Pandya is not being a strike bowler - any batsman who wants to spend time in the middle can put Pandya away easy - SL and BD showed how easy it is. I'd be tempted to bring Karthik for Pandya and Shami for Ashwin/Jadeja Pandya got Tamim bowled of a no ball and a catch dropped.Two wickets missed. He is still creating odd chances. Of course he is expensive.Things would start falling in place for him sooner than later as far as getting those wickets are concerned. Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 28 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Not taking risk bringing in karthik man.. that too in finals. Just can't see that happening. Pandya is batting allrounder he started bowling just 4 or 5 years back Utterly confused man . Pandya has been bowling like Wahab and batting like Imad Wasim. And Shami / Umesh / Ashwin / Karthik warming the benches dont make sense Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Utterly confused man . Pandya has been bowling like Wahab and batting like Imad Wasim. And Shami / Umesh / Ashwin / Karthik warming the benches dont make sense He batted in just 2 innings.. he did well in one of those... Don't forget his fielding as well.He did well against pak in 1st match. Just shami for ashwin will do if its flat pitch Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Ironhide Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Have to get Umesh or Shami (Depending on fitness) instead of Ashwin but i doubt that the team management will make any changes, they will say winning formula/winning team etc and go with the same XI Edited June 15, 2017 by Ironhide Mosher, express bowling and Cricketics 3 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dravid suggesting Virat to keep the team unchanged, seriously disagree with it. Pak from the grapevine is thinking of even dropping Imad Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: Dravid suggesting Virat to keep the team unchanged, seriously disagree with it. Pak from the grapevine is thinking of even dropping Imad Ashwin is useless and especially against subcontinent teams on a patta. Shami or even Umesh has to replace him so we have a wkt taking option in the middle overs. Link to comment
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