Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, express bowling said: We needed to try him in this test series to see if he can sustain intensity and pace while bowling 20 overs a day. Absolutely. You won’t know until you try. We can’t just assume things about bowlers. Its not like there is day light difference here that we are picking a t20 specialist batsman to save us a test match. Bumrah and all have played enough 4 day cricket and trying them for an important tour like South Africa is important. express bowling 1 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, express bowling said: We needed to try him in this test series to see if he can sustain intensity and pace while bowling 20 overs a day. needs to rest him from shitty t20s ....lay him only in odis and overseas tests ....to prevent burnout King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
Pak_cric Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 ya'll really think bumrah will last long if he plays both odi's and tests? he is good in ODI's, playing him in tests will get him injured. Just my view. Look at his action, 20 overs a day with that action?????? speedheat 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 i think Selectors are following an accepted Strategy...on merit bumrah would have already got a break through in tests as currently burmah is india's no 1 pacer in odi and t20 but since he is not played , it means they have marked him for odi and t20 only.... i am sure of his success in tests as he is a dangerous bolwer but i guess they dont wanna play him in all formats Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 please don't kill the golden goose... I haven't seen such a good death bowler for india since 1999, may be zak for a while. keep him fresh and fit for limited overs at least till WC2019 speedheat 1 Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 pick up a new face if you are not happy with ishant / umesh speedheat 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, SUMO said: please don't kill the golden goose... I haven't seen such a good death bowler for india since 1999, may be zak for a while. keep him fresh and fit for limited overs at least till WC2019 Playing few test matches in a crucial tour to South Africa won't hurt him. It's not that Indian t20 specialists are sitting home and resting when there are not twenty20s. They all are playing for their state sides in Ranji trophy which is also a test match and last 4 days and puts about enough stress. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Bumrah bowling in Australia Making Aussies hop Bounces out Steve Smith Can be effective on the bouncy pitches of SA Laaloo, New guy, speedheat and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 1:25 AM, SUMO said: please don't kill the golden goose... I haven't seen such a good death bowler for india since 1999, may be zak for a while. keep him fresh and fit for limited overs at least till WC2019 Exactly!!!! Playing in all three formats will suck all the energy out of him, might even get injured and go back to trundling, he is crucial if we had to win 2019 WC, at the moment let him enjoy the Lois, damn sure if he play all three formats along with the IPL the golden goose will be killed!! SUMO 1 Link to comment
Silva Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, speedheat said: Exactly!!!! Playing in all three formats will suck all the energy out of him, might even get injured and go back to trundling, he is crucial if we had to win 2019 WC, at the moment let him enjoy the Lois, damn sure if he play all three formats along with the IPL the golden goose will be killed!! if bumrah wants to play tests he should be allowed to play. To keep him from playing tests because he is so valuable to ODIs and t20s is basically punishing him for being too good which is unfair. Edited November 29, 2017 by Silva Link to comment
gakgupta Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He is probably the best one day pace bowler around....His action is very injury prone and India can't risk it...Until India finds one more reliable pace bowler, he needs to be safeguardedSent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Silva said: if bumrah wants to play tests he should be allowed to play. To keep him from playing tests because he is so valuable to ODIs and t20s is basically punishing him for being too good which is unfair. Its exactly the opposite, making him play in all 3 formats along with IPL will be like punishing him, bowling genuinely fast is physically more demanding I don't think we should risk him in tests with that injury prone action of his, its also not like that we don't have talents we can try tall left arm pacer aniket c or khejroliya or thakur or rajput or siraj. Link to comment
Silva Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 48 minutes ago, speedheat said: Its exactly the opposite, making him play in all 3 formats along with IPL will be like punishing him, bowling genuinely fast is physically more demanding I don't think we should risk him in tests with that injury prone action of his, its also not like that we don't have talents we can try tall left arm pacer aniket c or khejroliya or thakur or rajput or siraj. He is only 23 and has taken around 400 wickets already in his domestic and international career. That doesnt seem like the record of someone thats that injury prone though. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, speedheat said: Its exactly the opposite, making him play in all 3 formats along with IPL will be like punishing him, bowling genuinely fast is physically more demanding I don't think we should risk him in tests with that injury prone action of his, its also not like that we don't have talents we can try tall left arm pacer aniket c or khejroliya or thakur or rajput or siraj. we can rest him dead rubber ODIs or T20Is. Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: we can rest him dead rubber ODIs or T20Is. You really see that happening?? Remember how he was rushed back in dead rubber vs Australia?? Edited November 29, 2017 by speedheat Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Silva said: He is only 23 and has taken around 400 wickets already in his domestic and international career. That doesnt seem like the record of someone thats that injury prone though. Playing in domestics is bit different from internationals, less pressure and you can always chill in domestics,he is already down in pace from champions trophy and sometimes looks fatigue, I am not against bumrah in test matches I can guarantee you his success but at the same time if we play him in all 3 formats and IPL it isn't going to end well for him. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Nothing wrong in rotation. Make them play one game and rest them for the next one. You can cut down on injuries in half. Shami should never get two consecuctive games. he is injury prone. Alternate them. Link to comment
renjith Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Can someone explain why people think bumrahs action is injury prone? I can't see anything different other than the use of his non-bowling arm. How can we conclude that will put additional pressure on his back than a traditional high-arm bowler? express bowling and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, renjith said: Can someone explain why people think bumrahs action is injury prone? I can't see anything different other than the use of his non-bowling arm. How can we conclude that will put additional pressure on his back than a traditional high-arm bowler? It is just a perception Akram is of the opinion that Bumrah's action is not injury prone and his body is used to his action from a young age Bumrah has played lots of FC matches and has bowled loads of overs without any problem. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 hours ago, speedheat said: Remember how he was rushed back in dead rubber vs Australia?? We need to develop a couple of new LOI pacers who are dependable That will help us rest Bumrah in lower competition LOI series and dead rubber LOIs. This will enable Bumrah to play tests outside Asia without being overworked. : ) Link to comment
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