sarcastic Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Both are similar bowlers with respect to how they turn the ball. Kuldeep bowls Chinaman and Ashwin bows Offspin. But boy, I must say that Kuldeep is far more attacking and wicket-taking in nature as compared to Ashwin who is more of a containing bowler in ODIs. Despite the fact that Ashwin is far more experienced and successful in tests and Kuldeep seeming to leak runs, I will prefer the Kuldeep over Ashwin in an ODI starting XI. Edited June 25, 2017 by sarcastic Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I would like to be part of this legendary thread JaFanatic and velu 2 Link to comment
puneet28 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Ashwin also brought a feeling of change in 2011, when Bhajji was darting. He played crucial role in matches against WI and Australia in WC2011. I just hope Kuldeep carries on with good confidence and intent and doesn't follow the wrong pathway of containing rather than attacking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ankit_sharma03, maniac, GoldenSun and 3 others 6 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 all our spinners start out well and then turn into darters or containers. velu and GoldenSun 1 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Kuldeep should play every match from now on. He needs to get experience before WC all he can, although he should have been in squad from last 2 years. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
SUMO Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 We need >1.5 wic/match kind of spinner Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 We need to remember that Ashwin was bowling similar to Kuldeep during early part of his career. However, the most important difference between them is one of them is a finger spinner and the other is wrist spinner. Kuldeep can extract turn from unhelpful surfaces but Ashwin needs the help from surface to turn. Ashwin is also missing the basic guile these days. He's not even bowing 6 consistent good length balls these days. Time's up I'm afraid. Vk1, GoldenSun, Cricketics and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) I'd go on and play Kuldeep and Chahal as the two spinners. Both are wicket takers. Ashwin and Jadeja were more suited to Dhoni's style where he looked for batsman to make mistakes. Kuldeep and Chahal will suit Kohli, considering he's looking for break throughs. Edited June 26, 2017 by Sandeep99 Link to comment
NareshK Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Let Kuldeep play and bowl well in 25-30 ODIs and then we can compare. Sidhoni, mancalledsting and express bowling 3 Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think captains need to play a role in guiding spinners. They should be encouraged to pick wickets rather then contain esp in odi. Defensive captains are detrimental for spinners. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Wrist spinners do well in limited over formats they get turn and when playing big shots they grab wickets due to this . Can leak runs but also grab vital wickets Link to comment
MCcricket Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 What if, K Yadav was playing against Pakistan in final of ICc trophy instead of Ashloose. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MCcricket said: What if, K Yadav was playing against Pakistan in final of ICc trophy instead of Ashloose. What if bumrah had not over stepped what if kohli had survived 10 balls what if jadeja not run out pandya let's move on guys . Just one gAme Edited June 26, 2017 by King Tendulkar JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: What if bumrah had not over stepped what if kohli had survived 10 balls what if jadeja not run out pandya let's move on guys . Just one gAme The difference is controlling the controllable n decision making, you cannot have a perfect game but u can plan well, where we failed ,Shami, K Yadav n story would be different. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Just watched kuldeep's wickets against Windies, looks good. Wrist spinners will go for few runs but will get u breakthroughs more often then not. Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Kuldeep has the novelty factor, but ultimately is a wrist spinner who brings the ball into the right-handers. Chahal is quality, and quite under-rated. Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, sandeep said: Kuldeep has the novelty factor, but ultimately is a wrist spinner who brings the ball into the right-handers. Chahal is quality, and quite under-rated. Naah! Kuldeep > Chahal. But both should compete for a place in team. Win-Win for India. Not in favour of playing both in eleven. Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 58 minutes ago, Pollack said: Naah! Kuldeep > Chahal. Based on what? Because you enjoy how the word "chinaman" rolls off the tongue? Chahal > Kuldeep. Put that in your pollack and smoke it. :P Link to comment
gattaca Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 hours ago, sandeep said: Based on what? Because you enjoy how the word "chinaman" rolls off the tongue? Chahal > Kuldeep. Put that in your pollack and smoke it. :P Exactly chahal has great first class record as well. Surprised he is not even picked after the match against England last year. Do our selectors have memory loss ? Link to comment
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