someone Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tibarn said: These guys who weren't concerned when their favorite people were looting cows from farmers and killing those who tried to maintain law&order /defend their property, and they now suddenly get uppity when people don't tolerate their favorite people's crimes anymore. Demand the police act, without preferential treatment being given to the favorite people, and all this vigilantism will die off itself. Continue to protect the original crime, and react only to the reactionary crime, and watch as this happens even more. Also, some people haven't read the IPC s 96 to 106, which extends right to defend property to property being stolen. Exactly. There are some fears, concerns and wants of Hindus in their own country but it all seems subservient and gets brushed aside. The media only talks about a certain minority fears and aspirations. Many Hindus today fear for their livelihood, and want cows to be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 hours ago, someone said: https://www.scoopwhoop.com/cattle-smugglers-are-mercilessly-killing-farmers-the-issue-deserves-our-attention Here is a list of incidents from across India where they have ended up brutally killing villagers and even cops, or attempted to kill them, to evade being caught. February 7, 2014: Cattle smugglers kill two villagers in Bareilly. Report says, "Residents alleged that this is not an isolated case as several unsuccessful attempts in the past have been thwarted by alert villagers who raised an alarm, forcing the gang to flee." May 1, 2014: Cattle smugglers fire at villagers and police after being caught in Gurgaon's Baliawas. Later nabbed by police and identified as Aabid and Umar. June 24, 2014: Cattle smugglers fire at a farmer after he catches them stealing his cows in Shahjahanpur in UP. February 20, 2015: Cattle smugglers kill two policemen, including a head constable in Mathura, UP, when the police tried to intercept a vehicle carrying cows near Azizpur village. September 10, 2015: Cattle smugglers shot dead a sub-inspector, Manoj Mishra, in Bareilly's Faridpur. October 10, 2015: Prashant Poojary, a Bajrang Dal member actively involved in preventing illegal cow slaughter and transportation, was killed by alleged cow smugglers in Mangaluru. Police later arrested a suspect Mohammad Imtiaz Gantalkatte in the case January 9, 2016: Cattle smugglers kill a BSF constable in West Bengal June 1, 2016: A 16-year-old girl was shot dead by cow thieves after she confronted them. Happened in Etah district of Agra June 6, 2016: Two men kill a chowkidar Data Ram after suspecting him to be a police informer on cow slaughter incidents in Lucknow's Azamgarh district. The accused were later identified as Jakib and Itikar. June 19, 2016: Cattle smugglers ran over and killed a Dalit man in Agra's Firozabad district when he tried to stop them from stealing his cattle. August 5, 2016: Cattle smugglers drive a pick-up van over a 56-year-old constable named Triloki Tiwari in Jaunpur, UP. October 22, 2016: Cattle smugglers opened fire at a dairy farmer in Panipat, Haryana after he catches them red-handed. November 2, 2016: Cattle smugglers shot dead a woman after being caught stealing her buffaloes. The incident took place in Asrauli village of Dehat kotwali area of UP's Etah district. June 25, 2017: Cattle smugglers tried to run over a vehicle at police in Shajahanpur. One of accused was identified as Ehsaan. July 2, 2017: A farmer Charan Singh was shot dead by armed cattle thieves after he tried to save his buffalo from them. The incident took place in Kotrekapura village of Agra. All these are also BJP failures. Saying that Hindu killings are not highligted means BJP is failing on both counts. Muslim and Hindu protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemuChandra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/4/2017 at 5:17 PM, rkt.india said: The dark spot is increase in religious fundamentalism. Need to do away with strong religious ideology. Nah Dharmics are just waking up to mullah menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemuChandra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/6/2017 at 3:27 AM, Haarkarjeetgaye said: All these are also BJP failures. Saying that Hindu killings are not highligted means BJP is failing on both counts. Muslim and Hindu protection On 7/6/2017 at 3:27 AM, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Hindu protection Hindus are only suffering in non-BJP controlled areas like Bengal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemuChandra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/5/2017 at 10:01 PM, NareshK said: 5. Disastrous handling of Kashmir issue. Hundreds of people have been killed - both civilians and jawans and situation is still very tense. We have gone back many years in Kashmir. On 7/5/2017 at 10:01 PM, NareshK said: 4. Increase of Hindi and Hindu chauvinism. - It goes against the plurality and the multicultural ideals of the nation. TWO BIG PILE OF ELEPHANT ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemuChandra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 7/5/2017 at 11:08 PM, NareshK said: So people can take law into their hands and lynch whomever they like ? Yes why not Mob Justice is justified in this case as that is their livelihood,This should happen all over Bharat against Kangladeshi Mullas.OTOH are you one of those Cattle Smugglers Cause you are pretty much Dhindu to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, HemuChandra said: You a Mleccha? you have no idea you are new to the forum read through my posts and make up your opinion. and btw i dont give a f what you think. so you can f off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemuChandra Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Vilander said: and btw i dont give a f what you think. so you can f off. Like i care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 9 hours ago, HemuChandra said: Hindus are only suffering in non-BJP controlled areas like Bengal. BJP controlled country, Hindus and Muslims both are suffering. Jai Hind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 So op is basically saying Chaddhis are best for India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Rajnath Singh is useless. And what is Jai Italy doing handling 2 vital portfolios? Nothing much to write about this team, old wine in a new bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 hours ago, sarchasm said: Yes, Hindus must not be in the slightest religiously assertive. It makes muslims feel insecure and we cannot have that. We Hindus should understand that only muslims can enjoy rights like the following A common man indulging in religious activities is no issue whether he is Hindu or Muslim but politicians indulging and siding with particular religions is what creates disharmony and it is for both sets of politicians, not just for incumbent government. Riots or communal killings are always a result of political complicity. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: A common man indulging in religious activities is no issue whether he is Hindu or Muslim but politicians indulging and siding with particular religions is what creates disharmony and it is for both sets of politicians, not just for incumbent government. Riots or communal killings are always a result of political complicity. there is also the problem of religious institutions needing regulation as in, you can not have a religious leaders or priests fanning religious hate after every sermon especially a sermon on some holy month of fasting etc. And then peaceful adherents coming out of lynching policemen etc. Looking at chinese might help a bit here, they just regulated one of their religious minorities in a restive state and its 50 million adherants. http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/18/uighurs-bow-downtochineseflagatxinjiangmosque.html gotta love the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: A common man indulging in religious activities is no issue whether he is Hindu or Muslim but politicians indulging and siding with particular religions is what creates disharmony and it is for both sets of politicians, not just for incumbent government. Riots or communal killings are always a result of political complicity. Religion is private matter. It should stay like that. In that image, That place is exclusively to be used by Railway employees. But now its being encroached. Systematic abuse of Ifrastructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Not sure what Modi is doing. Will he continue to have a part time defence minister? The home minister is more like "kadi ninda" minister. Are there no competent people in BJP who can be given portfolios? Is he going to run the country for next term too depending on Jaitleys and Rajnaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, asterix said: Not sure what Modi is doing. Will he continue to have a part time defence minister? The home minister is more like "kadi ninda" minister. Are there no competent people in BJP who can be given portfolios? Is he going to run the country for next term too depending on Jaitleys and Rajnaths? Jaitley is highly competent, very knowledgeable and very useful guy. People haven't been able to appreciate him...not many ministers would have been able to get GST through... tomorrow if they decide to do abolish art. 370 , they will turn to Jaitley. True legal luminary, logical guy, very experienced, an all-rounder,Great negotiator, great orator.... Only thing is he looks weak and irritated since last few last after health issues. asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Jaitley is highly competent, very knowledgeable and very useful guy. People haven't been able to appreciate him...not many ministers would have been able to get GST through... tomorrow if they decide to do abolish art. 370 , they will turn to Jaitley. True legal luminary, logical guy, very experienced, an all-rounder,Great negotiator, great orator.... Only thing is he looks weak and irritated since last few last after health issues. My point is Modi had an excuse for a limited team at the initial stages. It's 3+ years now and by the looks of it, he'll pretty much continue with the status quo. Jaitley could be super competent but the ministries he's looking after are huge and he has health issues. God forbid if something happens to him, what's the backup Modi has? The defence portfolio needs a dedicated minister, healthy minister. I can understand Modi must be very busy but WTF is doing with his cabinet? I've never seen a more incompetent HM than this Rajnath... randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Rajnath singh, the dhurandhar neta, single handedly obliterated BJP from UP's political scene during his reign. Do not underestimate his incompetence. My feeling is Modi is simply tolerating him for the time being and he would 'promote' him to the margdarshak mandal at the first available opportunity. Second point being that most of you are clueless if you think performance matters when it comes to elections. It's the MAHAUL that determines who would win the elections. I can only think of Modi in Gujarat who completely annihilated not just the opposition but also tamed the media that's always arrayed against him. Much difficult to accomplish at the national level. What I mean to say that regardless of pappus in opposition and Modi's good governance, if the media succeeds in creating an adverse MAHAUL, Modi would find himself swimming upstream to save his kursi. The media is biased and divided anyway . There is one section which will rally behind modi and the other against it . I doubt anything will change in the next 2 years . The general Mahaul should be in good for BJP during the elections , cos smartly they have taken all the tough decisions already and that should put them sweet spot for the last 2 budget with enough bandwidth to slash personal Income taxes which should swing the middle class votes in their favour . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 54 minutes ago, asterix said: My point is Modi had an excuse for a limited team at the initial stages. It's 3+ years now and by the looks of it, he'll pretty much continue with the status quo. Jaitley could be super competent but the ministries he's looking after are huge and he has health issues. God forbid if something happens to him, what's the backup Modi has? The defence portfolio needs a dedicated minister, healthy minister. I can understand Modi must be very busy but WTF is doing with his cabinet? I've never seen a more incompetent HM than this Rajnath... its a fact that BJP does not have a lot of competent ministers , I dont see that changing anytime soon . So this may continue for a while . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 It's still is a fantastic team because there aren't any corruptionIt's the speed which is the issue as many areas are lacking behind big time. And the opposition has played a big part, their complete non-operation and non-support over key bills means BJP hands are tied. Only time, will tell if this is the best government but this is for sure the worst opposition. They have no agenda for the country, and are opposing everything, supporting anti-nationals. randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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