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53 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

am talking about these mediocre slow inning at top,we made him open even in zim,what is need of having openers who play like this opening

i dont remember the squad for this tour but ishan kishan should be opening for ind a in future ,what are we achieving with karun as opener

Ishan kishen is not there, so no point talking about him. I want him to open as well

 

Nair is player in Rahane mould but with a lot more strokes and less tighter game. Even i think the best place for Nair tvo bat wud be opening, now he may not be considered as opener in future. But keeping this tour in mind u have to see the resources avl. Middle order is already jam packed for this squad. Nair is being looked as test prospects so playing new ball and many overs will help his game only. This tour is not only about filling loopholes but developing player. If he failed before doesnt mean u give up on a talented player like him, if a guy can score 300 batting at 6 he must have some talent. Odi are all about getting ur game plan right, nair just has to understand that which rahane has failed till date. And he is much better then Mandeep who is in current squad , who wud have opened otherwise 

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Hardik, Krunal and Shankar should all be in the 16 men squad for ODIs and T20Is..... and 2 of them in the playing 11.

 

Would add a lot of balance to the teams.

 

Against a weaker ODI side like SL.....I would try a team like

 

1. Rahul

2. Dhawan / Rohit

3. Kohli

4. Pandey / Dhoni

5. Pant

6. Shankar

7. Hardik

8. Krunal

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami / Bhuvi

11. Bumrah / Thampi

 

This combination has 6 bowlers, 8 batsmen and 4 big hitters from 5 to 8.

 

The " / " players would be rotated as the opposition is weak.

 

 

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Hardik, Krunal and Shankar should all be in the 16 men squad for ODIs and T20Is..... and 2 of them in the playing 11.

 

Would add a lot of balance to the teams.

 

Against a weaker ODI side like SL.....I would try a team like

 

1. Rahul

2. Dhawan / Rohit

3. Kohli

4. Pandey / Dhoni

5. Pant

6. Shankar

7. Hardik

8. Krunal

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami / Bhuvi

11. Bumrah / Thampi

 

This combination has 6 bowlers, 8 batsmen and 4 big hitters from 5 to 8.

 

The " / " players would be rotated as the opposition is weak.

 

 

Not in favour of playing krunal as main spinner, even if its a week opposition . If we have to play a 2nd spinner why not try chahal 

 

Against SL, since we are going by our wishes which selectors wud give a middle finger to. I dnt see them dropping jadhav, rahane, karthik 

I hope Kohli is rested, he has played non stop and he needs some time and thats the only way we cud fit in some youngsters 

 

1. Dhawan

2. Rohit (capt, i cant beilve m saying this but what other option do i have)

3. Pant

4. KL Rahul 

5. Dhoni ( if he is taken he needs to be backed before we fully give up on him. Play him all games or atleast 4 )

6. Krunal

7. Pandya

8. Kuldeep

9. Chahal

10. Bhuvi

11. Bumrah 

12. Manish Pandey

13. Siraj

14. Rajpoot 

15. Shankar

 

 

  • Rajpoot/ siraj - as we shud look for a tall bowler kind of variety who can keep tight and also takes wkts. I also wanted a left armer but Sran doesnt seems to be fit 
  • Dhawan- Rohit needs to be told to change their brand of cricket and improve their RR in 1st 10 overs
  • KL is a better player then Pandey so ill give him the 1st shot at 4......
  • How to get in shankar, If hardik plays all 3 test ......he shud be given off from 2 odis and shankar shud come in. Hardik work load needs to be managed as well . Dhoni shud be dropped from t20 that will make a place there
  • To get in Pandey, dhawan shud be rested in 2 games and dropped from t20 and we can try Rahul or even pant at open to see if others are better then our current openers. 

 

But our selectors will have diff ideas so none of this wont matter

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I dont like this tactic of playing only 3 specialist bowler and having all rounders bowl out the other 20 overs. Its too risky, if one of the 3 specialist bowlers is having a bad day than they are basically screwed when it comes to containing the opposition.

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12 hours ago, express bowling said:

Vijay Shankar has picked up 2 wickets again after taking 3 in the last game

 

Played an unbeaten cameo of 18  not out off only 8 balls with a huge 6

 

Very handy seamer-all-rounder who should be kept as a back-up for Hardik in ODIs

Vijay Shankar ' s bowling is quite underrated.He has a good bowling action,bowls in the range of 125 to 135 k ,can bowl in the channel.

 

Good that he has got an opportunity to show his all-round skills in the A tour

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11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ishan kishen is not there, so no point talking about him. I want him to open as well

 

Nair is player in Rahane mould but with a lot more strokes and less tighter game. Even i think the best place for Nair tvo bat wud be opening, now he may not be considered as opener in future. But keeping this tour in mind u have to see the resources avl. Middle order is already jam packed for this squad. Nair is being looked as test prospects so playing new ball and many overs will help his game only. This tour is not only about filling loopholes but developing player. If he failed before doesnt mean u give up on a talented player like him, if a guy can score 300 batting at 6 he must have some talent. Odi are all about getting ur game plan right, nair just has to understand that which rahane has failed till date. And he is much better then Mandeep who is in current squad , who wud have opened otherwise 

on contrary i think nair is good player of spin,may be good as middle order batsman in odis,he can play sweeps/reverse sweeps(best i can think of in india)

and as you say he is being accomodated in the side because he cant find place in middle order,i dont think hats how it should be 

anyone who has chance of opening for ind in future should play at that number in these tournamnets

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5 hours ago, tweaker said:

Vijay Shankar ' s bowling is quite underrated.He has a good bowling action,bowls in the range of 125 to 135 k ,can bowl in the channel.

 

Good that he has got an opportunity to show his all-round skills in the A tour

As a bowler, Vijay Shankar averages 26 in List A with an ER of only 4.7.


As you said, he bowls the channel , has a good outswinger and bowls a heavy ball and has a good bouncer even though he is medium-fast.

 

Very under-rated as a 50-over and 20-over format bowler. He has picked up 5 wickets in the 2 A-team games he has played in this series and has developed a knack of picking wickets this season.

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8 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

I think pace can improve as u can see with bhuvi

 

 

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Both are difference cases. Bhuvi came into the team at the age of 22, was still getting stronger, had the time to increase his pace. While Shankar is already 26 and a half. Difficult for him to gain pace.

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18 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

While Shankar is already 26 and a half. Difficult for him to gain pace.

I want to see what speeds Shankar bowls at  in the IPL and in international matches.

 

He looks lively when he hits the deck hard or bowls bouncers.

 

I won't be surprised if he bowls 130 k to 140 k range.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

I want to see what speeds Shankar bowls at  in the IPL and in international matches.

 

He looks lively when he hits the deck hard or bowls bouncers.

 

I won't be surprised if he bowls 130 k to 140 k range.

I saw him bowl in IPL on his debut and he was around 125.

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Shankar is a specialist batsman who can bowl.His bowling is nothing special..around 125-130k.Hardik is a lot better

option that we have.I'd rather consider Krunal in place of Jadeja in LOIs.

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17 hours ago, express bowling said:

Hardik, Krunal and Shankar should all be in the 16 men squad for ODIs and T20Is..... and 2 of them in the playing 11.

 

Would add a lot of balance to the teams.

 

Against a weaker ODI side like SL.....I would try a team like

 

1. Rahul

2. Dhawan / Rohit

3. Kohli

4. Pandey / Dhoni

5. Pant

6. Shankar

7. Hardik

8. Krunal

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami / Bhuvi

11. Bumrah / Thampi

 

This combination has 6 bowlers, 8 batsmen and 4 big hitters from 5 to 8.

 

The " / " players would be rotated as the opposition is weak.

 

 

This is my LOI squad:-

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli (C)

Dhoni (Wk)

Pandey

Kedar

Hardik

BK/Ashwin

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

Reserves:- Rahul,Pant,BK/Ashwin,Krunal,M.Siraj (Rate him higher than other young pace prospects).

Umesh should be restricted to tests only for now.

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Against weaker teams we can afford to rest our key players.

This is my squad for weaker oppositions:-

Rahul

Iyer

Pandey (c)

Pant (Wk)

Kedar

Krunal

Hardik

Axar

Kuldeep

Siraj

Bumrah

Reserves:- Nair,Hooda,Chahal,Thampi.

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12 minutes ago, ShebbySB said:

This is my LOI squad:-

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli (C)

Dhoni (Wk)

Pandey

Kedar

Hardik

BK/Ashwin

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

Reserves:- Rahul,Pant,BK/Ashwin,Krunal,M.Siraj (Rate him higher than other young pace prospects).

Umesh should be restricted to tests only for now.

 

My team was for playing  against weak oppositions .... for the purpose of testing out the new all-rounders.

 

Your team is for playing against top opposition .... a good team but I would add Rahul in place of Pandey and play Pant and Krunal more often.

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Shankar is a specialist batsman who can bowl.His bowling is nothing special..around 125-130k.Hardik is a lot better
option that we have.I'd rather consider Krunal in place of Jadeja in LOIs.
How come he is consistently taking wickets against A teams.
Even front line pace bowlers are not so consistent.

Looks like he is taking top order batsmen...

What's strikes me about this guy is...consistent swing, decent bounce and wonderful line and length.....

For a batsmen, that's not bad at all....

He can be batsmen who can bowl.....his bowling is definetly better than likes of Ganguly, Binny....

He can be very handy outside India.....esp in tests

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On 8/1/2017 at 9:39 PM, Silva said:

I dont like this tactic of playing only 3 specialist bowler and having all rounders bowl out the other 20 overs. Its too risky, if one of the 3 specialist bowlers is having a bad day than they are basically screwed when it comes to containing the opposition.

These are practice games, giving the best prospects opportunities.  Team balance is secondary.   Better that allrounders shoulder fulltime bowling responsibilities in such games, so they can either raise their games, or be found out as lacking.    

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On 02/08/2017 at 7:09 AM, Silva said:

I dont like this tactic of playing only 3 specialist bowler and having all rounders bowl out the other 20 overs. Its too risky, if one of the 3 specialist bowlers is having a bad day than they are basically screwed when it comes to containing the opposition.

Indian sr. Team also plays with 3 frontline bowlers.. 2 fast+ashwin along with hardik and jadeja. 

Jadeja with bowling avg of 35+ is not a frontline bowler too

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5 hours ago, sandeep said:

Pandya in, and limping bad.  What's wrong with him?  

 

Also, horrible technique in dealing with the short ball.   

Almost all of his shots looks funny , but spin and short ball is something which doesnt trouble him . 

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Tri series final coming up between India A and Southafrica A will be thriller.

 

RSA A vs Ind A, Pretoria

Starts at 01:00 PM IST (07:30 GMT), Aug 08


Teams:

India A (From): Shreyas Iyer, Sanju Samson, Vijay Shankar, Rishabh Pant(w), Manish Pandey(c), Deepak Hooda, Shardul Thakur, Yuzvendra Chahal, Krunal Pandya, Siddarth Kaul, Mohammed Siraj, Mandeep Singh, Karun Nair, Axar Patel, Jayant Yadav, Basil Thampi

 

South Africa A (From): Henry Davids, Reeza Hendricks, Mangaliso Mosehle(w), Khaya Zondo(c), Farhaan Behardien, Dane Paterson, Willem Mulder, Dwaine Pretorius, Junior Dala, Aaron Phangiso, Tabraiz Shamsi, JJ Smuts, Beuran Hendricks, Heinrich Klaasen, Aiden Markram, Jason Smith

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54 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Siraj must have played this imp match in place of Thampi. Siraj and Shardul are the ones who can be fast tracked to Indian team and need to play as many matches as they can.

Siraj is very raw. Thampi as of now is better.

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