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Mysterious triple centuries of Ravi Jadeja


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On 7/27/2017 at 4:05 PM, Trichromatic said:

And since start of our home season, he has scored 571 runs at average of 40 with 6 50s in 21 innings. 1 fifty per 3.5 inning.

 

He has been doing well as batsman off late.

 

Most of those innings came after our team had piled up loads of runs, the opposition bowlers were dead tired and lost all enthusiasm.

 

Does he have the ability to bat when the team is in trouble or when quality bowlers are bowling well   ?

 

 

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2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Most of those innings came after our team had piled up loads of runs, the opposition bowlers were dead tired and lost all enthusiasm.

 

Does he have the ability to bat when the team is in trouble or when quality bowlers are bowling well   ?

 

 

When we needed him to deliver, he did that.

 

4th test at Dharmsala, series was at stake. Aus had piled up 300 and India were 221-6. At  that point India could have easily conceded a lead of 50 runs. In comes Jadeja, scores 63 runs in  95 balls and when he was dismissed India had lead of 17 runs. He was the highest scorer for India in that match, in fact only Smith outscored him from both teams.

 

He probably saved us from biggest humiliation at home of recent time.

 

What about Mohali game where India were 204-6 in reply to 283 by England and he scored 90 runs helping India in getting 134 runs lead. He was top scorer of the match and India had to chase only 100 runs in last inning because of that. We all know how tricky chasing 220 in last inning can be in India. Had India conceded a lead of 20-30 runs, which won't have been surprising without Jadeja's inning, India would have to chase 250+ in 4th inning.

 

Even the match at Ranchi where India found itself in trouble in last inning with score at 132-6, with probably 12-13 overs left, he ensured a draw for Indian team with Kohli.

 

NZ test at Kanpur, India were 262-7 and NZ were 258-7, but India got  56 runs lead as Jadeja scored 42 runs of those 56. He scored a 50 in 2nd inning to ensure that India add 100 runs in 18 overs and had 400+ lead against NZ.

 

His 50s against Bangladesh and SL were scored after India piled up huge total. 

 

How much more can be expected from a batsman at his position. 2 match defining knocks, 1 in series decider and 1 good contribution for saving the match and some innings accelerating the inning when team had piled, it can be said that he has played all types of innings so far.

 

On which ocassions do you think that he failed when we needed it a lot? I don't find any merit in the claim that most of those innings came after our team had piled up loads of runs, the opposition bowlers were dead tired and lost all enthusiasm.

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On 8/19/2017 at 10:40 PM, Trichromatic said:

When we needed him to deliver, he did that.

 

4th test at Dharmsala, series was at stake. Aus had piled up 300 and India were 221-6. At  that point India could have easily conceded a lead of 50 runs. In comes Jadeja, scores 63 runs in  95 balls and when he was dismissed India had lead of 17 runs. He was the highest scorer for India in that match, in fact only Smith outscored him from both teams.

 

He probably saved us from biggest humiliation at home of recent time.

 

What about Mohali game where India were 204-6 in reply to 283 by England and he scored 90 runs helping India in getting 134 runs lead. He was top scorer of the match and India had to chase only 100 runs in last inning because of that. We all know how tricky chasing 220 in last inning can be in India. Had India conceded a lead of 20-30 runs, which won't have been surprising without Jadeja's inning, India would have to chase 250+ in 4th inning.

 

Even the match at Ranchi where India found itself in trouble in last inning with score at 132-6, with probably 12-13 overs left, he ensured a draw for Indian team with Kohli.

 

NZ test at Kanpur, India were 262-7 and NZ were 258-7, but India got  56 runs lead as Jadeja scored 42 runs of those 56. He scored a 50 in 2nd inning to ensure that India add 100 runs in 18 overs and had 400+ lead against NZ.

 

His 50s against Bangladesh and SL were scored after India piled up huge total. 

 

How much more can be expected from a batsman at his position. 2 match defining knocks, 1 in series decider and 1 good contribution for saving the match and some innings accelerating the inning when team had piled, it can be said that he has played all types of innings so far.

 

On which ocassions do you think that he failed when we needed it a lot? I don't find any merit in the claim that most of those innings came after our team had piled up loads of runs, the opposition bowlers were dead tired and lost all enthusiasm.

 

First 50 of the season ....50 ....  Jadeja comes to bat with India 335 ahead in the 3rd innings and looking to declare.

 

2nd one... 90 ..... a good one

 

3rd one ..... 51 ..... Jadeja comes to bat when team 616  for 6

 

4th one ..... 60 .... Jadeja comes to bawhen India  569 for 6

 

5th one .... 54 ... Jadeja comes to bat when India 328 for 6 with a set Pujara at the other end

 

6th one .... 63 .... a very good one

 

7th  one .... 70 .... Jadeja comes to bat when when India 496 for 7 

 

13 failures  in the season batting at No. 8 in most tests, which is a position where scoring big is possible as most of the time we are looking to score 600+.  

 

Pandya and Jayant both have test centuries batting at No. 8 and No. 9.... in 3 tests each .... Jadeja has no test century in 32 tests.

 

He still has an acute issue with his off-stump deliveries 

 

He still looks awkward against the short balls, even on slower pitches.

 

Yes.... 2 or 3 good knocks in 16 tests  in the season ..... from a batsman with 3 triple hundreds in domestic cricket ..... and we should be jumping up and down with joy  !!      :phehe:

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21 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

 

Yes.... 2 or 3 good knocks in 16 tests of in the season ..... from a batsman with 3 triple hundreds in domestic cricket ..... and we should be jumping up and down with joy  !!      :phehe:

that is what you can get from someone batting at 8. 

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On 7/27/2017 at 1:17 PM, Temujin Khaghan said:

sorry I did not get the article, but I found the exact quotes in quora..

 

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Long ago Naina(his sister) asked Jadeja why he bats the way he does. Playing shots, getting out, which is different from how he bats for Saurashtra, as a proper batsman. "He told me one thing," Naina says. "'Should I listen to you or the captain? I have to play for the team.' If you observe, he always plays that way. He will never try to secure a fifty once he has reached 30-35. 'Should I do dhichoon dhichoon when the asking rate is 10?'///

 

Naina is his sister...

 

P.S. again... no I don't believe this... 

Not the first time we are getting to hear a jumla from a Gujrati :p

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7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Check how Pandya and Jayant Yadav have done in the 3 tests they have played each .... batting at No.8 and No.9 respectively.

that does not matter what they did. Jadeja has consistently done well too. Jadeja didnt score a 100 but he did came close.

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4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

that does not matter what they did. Jadeja has consistently done well too. Jadeja didnt score a 100 but he did came close.

 

That does matter if we are trying to gauge the batting abilities of Jadeja, the test batsman.

 

If those 2 have scored at 8 and 9.... how does the logic of Jadeja not scoring enough, as he bats at No. 8, hold  ?

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3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

That does matter if we are trying to gauge the batting abilities of Jadeja, the test batsman.

 

If those 2 have scored at 8 and 9.... how does the logic of Jadeja not scoring enough, as he bats at No. 8, hold  ?

because Jadeja too has scored.

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On 8/20/2017 at 5:23 AM, express bowling said:

Are you happy with Jadeja, the test batsman  ?

I'm happy with his batting method in the last 2 years or so.  Jadeja's #1 challenge has always been shot selection, and a defense that's not that solid.  He has been more successful in recent times due to the conditions not challenging his defense - and a greater selectiveness in when to attempt the big shot.   

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