zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Many Bollywood films have been nominated for Oscars, won major international awards and broken box office records, below are a few that have made a lasting impact for one or a combination of reasons from subject / story, dialogues, cinematography, background score, songs, direction, acting, etc. In no particular order (may be in the order of release): Awara Shree 420 Naya Daur Madhumati Mughal-e-Azam Pakeezah Dangal Edited August 7, 2017 by zen 1 1 tweaker and Under_Score reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tendu_10 143 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 Sholay and Roti Kapra aur MakaanSent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk 1 1 sandeep and Under_Score reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Tendu_10 said: Sholay and Roti Kapra aur Makaan Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Roti, Kapda aur Makan, and Sholay were the biggest hits of '74 and '75 respectively. Excellent films that can be enjoyed anytime, but today they appear more like masala entertainers than highly impactful movies relatively speaking I love Manoj Kumar's Sanyasi too, which was probably the 2nd highest grossing film of 1975 .... 1975 was a great year for Bollywood as it had other major hits as well including Jai Santosi Maa, Dewaar and Dharmatma, along with critically acclaimed and successful films such as Aandhi Edited August 7, 2017 by zen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I recently watched Arzoo (1965) starring Rajendra Kumar, Sadhna and Feroz Khan. The film has held up well despite the time. It has the hard to describe quality that is not rarely seen in regular Bollywood films. If I have to expand my list, I would be tempted to include this one: PS 1991's Saajan has shades of Arzoo Edited August 7, 2017 by zen 1 tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tendu_10 143 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 veer-zaara coz it all the pakistanis triggered of a muslim girl falling for a non muslim guy.Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk 2 Gollum and Under_Score reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) A few evergreen masala entertainers: Aan Chalti ka Naam Gaadi Ram aur Shyam Jewel Thief Johny Mera Naam Saccha Jhutha Sholay Sanyasi Golmaal (1970s) Qurbani Vidhata Karma Top love stories that have held up well over the years : Arzoo Bobby Betaab Hero Maine Pyar Kiya Edited August 7, 2017 by zen 1 1 Under_Score and tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Tendu_10 said: veer-zaara coz it all the pakistanis triggered of a muslim girl falling for a non muslim guy. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Gadar probably gets them more triggered 2 Gollum and Under_Score reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Post 70s films when adjusted for inflation: http://www.ibosnetwork.com/asp/actualalltime.asp Rank Film Name Year Producer Raw Net Inflation Adjusted Net Inflation Adjusted Gross 1. Sholay Aug 15 1975 G P Sippy Rs. 15,00,00,000 Rs. 8,13,66,16,960 - 2. Hum Aapke Hai Kaun Aug 5 1994 Rajshree Productions Rs. 60,00,00,000 Rs. 5,48,69,29,920 - 3. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar Oct 27 1978 Prakash Mehra Rs. 11,50,00,000 Rs. 4,70,94,50,752 - 4. Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge Oct 20 1995 Yash Raj Films Rs. 56,00,00,000 Rs. 4,66,30,79,424 - 5. Amar Akbar Anthony Jan 1 1977 Manmohan Desai Rs. 9,00,00,000 Rs. 4,04,77,00,480 - 6. Bobby Sep 29 1973 R K Productions Rs. 6,00,00,000 Rs. 3,92,54,61,248 - 7. Coolie Dec 2 1983 Ketan Desai Rs. 13,00,00,000 Rs. 3,33,23,36,640 - 8. Roti Kapada aur Makaan Oct 18 1974 Manoj Kumar Rs. 5,50,00,000 Rs. 3,27,64,88,960 - 9. Dharam Veer Jan 1 1977 Subhash Desai Rs. 7,25,00,000 Rs. 3,26,06,47,680 - 10. Raja Hindustani Nov 15 1996 Aly Morani Rs. 43,00,00,000 Rs. 3,26,03,17,184 - 11. Deewar Jan 24 1975 Gulshan Rai Rs. 6,00,00,000 Rs. 3,25,46,46,784 - 12. Trishul May 4 1978 Gulshan Rai Rs. 7,80,00,000 Rs. 3,19,42,36,416 - 13. Haathi Mere Saathi Jan 1 1971 Sando Rs. 4,00,00,000 Rs. 3,15,63,57,376 - 14. Don Jun 12 1978 Nariman Irani Rs. 7,70,00,000 Rs. 3,15,32,84,608 - 15. Naseeb May 1 1981 Manmohan Desai Rs. 10,00,00,000 Rs. 3,09,16,63,616 - 16. Jai Santoshi Maa May 30 1975 Satram Rohra Rs. 5,50,00,000 Rs. 2,98,34,26,304 - 17. Mr. Natwarlal Jun 8 1979 Tony Rs. 7,50,00,000 Rs. 2,79,66,64,320 - 18. Laawaris May 22 1981 Prakash Mehra Rs. 9,00,00,000 Rs. 2,78,24,97,280 - 19. Kranti Feb 3 1981 Manoj Kumar Rs. 9,00,00,000 Rs. 2,78,24,97,280 - 20. Sanyasi Oct 16 1975 Sohanlal Kanwar Rs. 5,00,00,000 Rs. 2,71,22,05,824 - 21. Sachcha Jhutha Jan 1 1970 Vinod Doshi Rs. 3,10,00,000 Rs. 2,68,64,65,536 - 22. Suhaag Nov 16 1979 Rajinder Sharma Rs. 7,20,00,000 Rs. 2,68,47,97,696 - 23. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai Oct 16 1998 Dharma Productions Rs. 42,50,00,000 Rs. 2,67,17,36,064 - 24. Karan Arjun Jan 13 1995 Rakesh Roshan Rs. 32,00,00,000 Rs. 2,66,46,16,704 - 25. Gadar Jun 15 2001 Zee Network Rs. 65,00,00,000 Rs. 2,65,39,40,736 - 26. Zanjeer May 11 1973 Prakash Mehra Rs. 4,00,00,000 Rs. 2,61,69,74,080 - 27. Johnny Mera Naam Jan 1 1970 Gulshan Rai Rs. 3,00,00,000 Rs. 2,59,98,05,440 - 28. Enthiran - The Robot Oct 1 2010 Kalanithi Maran Rs. 2,37,18,56,942 Rs. 2,55,20,83,712 - 29. Seeta Aur Geeta Jan 1 1972 G P Sippy Rs. 3,50,00,000 Rs. 2,51,47,85,024 - 30. Chor Machaye Shor Mar 22 1974 N N Sippy Rs. 4,00,00,000 Rs. 2,38,29,00,992 - 31. Dushman Jan 1 1971 Premji Rs. 3,00,00,000 Rs. 2,36,72,68,096 - 32. Jugnu Aug 30 1973 Pramod Chakraborty Rs. 3,50,00,000 Rs. 2,28,98,52,416 - 33. 3 Idiots Dec 25 2009 Vidhu Vinod Chopra Rs. 1,89,38,74,729 Rs. 2,27,67,66,464 - 34. Hera Pheri Oct 3 1976 Satyendra Pal Rs. 4,50,00,000 Rs. 2,22,26,53,440 - 35. Dus Numbri Mar 12 1976 Madan Mohla Rs. 4,50,00,000 Rs. 2,22,26,53,440 - 36. Maine Pyar Kiya Dec 29 1989 Rajshree Productions Rs. 15,00,00,000 Rs. 2,19,14,74,432 - 37. Mera Gaon Mera Desh Jun 14 1971 Bolu Khosla Rs. 2,75,00,000 Rs. 2,16,99,95,776 - 38. Pratigya Jun 26 1975 Dharmendra Rs. 4,00,00,000 Rs. 2,16,97,64,608 - 39. Ek Duje Ke Liye Jun 5 1981 Prasad Productions Rs. 7,00,00,000 Rs. 2,16,41,64,608 - 40. Pakeezah Feb 4 1972 Kamal Amrohi Rs. 3,00,00,000 Rs. 2,15,55,29,984 - 41. Shaan Dec 12 1980 G P Sippy Rs. 6,25,00,000 Rs. 2,12,20,99,200 - 42. Namak Halaal Apr 30 1982 Satyendra Pal Rs. 7,50,00,000 Rs. 2,11,13,49,504 - 43. Laila Majnu Jan 1 1976 Seeroo Daryani Rs. 4,25,00,000 Rs. 2,09,91,72,736 - 44. Love Story Feb 27 1981 Rajendra Kumar Rs. 6,75,00,000 Rs. 2,08,68,73,088 - 45. Dost Apr 12 1974 Premji Rs. 3,50,00,000 Rs. 2,08,50,38,336 - 46. Border Jun 13 1997 J P Dutta Rs. 30,00,00,000 Rs. 2,07,11,86,688 - 47. Himmatwala Feb 25 1983 G A Seshagiri Rao Rs. 8,00,00,000 Rs. 2,05,06,68,672 - 48. Ganga Ki Saugandh Feb 10 1978 Sultan Productions Rs. 5,00,00,000 Rs. 2,04,75,87,456 - 49. Dostana Oct 17 1980 Dharma Productions Rs. 6,00,00,000 Rs. 2,03,72,15,232 - 50. Khuddar Jul 30 1982 Anwar Ali Rs. 7,20,00,000 Rs. 2,02,68,95,616 - Appears to be covering films in the 1970-2010 period Edited August 7, 2017 by zen 1 1 Under_Score and tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dial_100 493 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 ^top 50 without QSQT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dial_100 said: ^top 50 without QSQT? That is the highest grossing films list for 1970-2010 period when adjusted for inflation Not sure where QSQT will be at when adjusted Edited August 7, 2017 by zen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surajmal 1,079 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 hahk & ddlj. These 2 movies (and their clones) sustained bollywood for atleast a decade and a half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, surajmal said: hahk & ddlj. These 2 movies (and their clones) sustained bollywood for atleast a decade and a half. Imo, these two haven't aged that well relatively speaking. I may feel tortured having to watch these two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texan 1,624 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 Mr. India 1 1 Under_Score and chewy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Under_Score 1,188 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 Nice topic...Ghayal was also a masala action thriller which took Sunny Deol to stardom, liked movies like Arjun as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vayuu1 1,303 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 Tammanna, Sarak, mother India, pakeezah, mughal e Azam, Devdas, do bigha zameen, aavara, saheb biwi or ghulam,kagaz ke phool, guide, haqeeqat. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBN 1,891 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 DDLJ. Everybody loves this romantic flick especially the girls. Even foreigners see this movie and get hooked on Bollywood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surajmal 1,079 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 5:05 PM, zen said: Imo, these two haven't aged that well relatively speaking. I may feel tortured having to watch these two lol. too true. I can't watch even a minute long segment of hahk (pick any random portion) without the cringe face on. DDLJ, I can sit through some portions if I am drunk or high. 1 zen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, surajmal said: lol. too true. I can't watch even a minute long segment of hahk (pick any random portion) without the cringe face on. DDLJ, I can sit through some portions if I am drunk or high. Many of Karan Johar and some of Yash Chopra films don't work for me anymore. "Jab tak hai jaan" made me laugh esp when SRK loses his memory .... In fact, I sometimes wonder why I liked many of these films when they were released Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Audiophile 1,802 Report post Posted August 10, 2017 bollywood is gutter tripe! 1 cowboysfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted August 12, 2017 Some memorable moments from Pakeezah: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboysfan 765 Report post Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 1:28 PM, zen said: I recently watched Arzoo (1965) starring Rajendra Kumar, Sadhna and Feroz Khan. The film has held up well despite the time. It has the hard to describe quality that is not rarely seen in regular Bollywood films. If I have to expand my list, I would be tempted to include this one: PS 1991's Saajan has shades of Arzoo Sadhana was a good actress,Mera saaya is one of my favorite movies. 1 zen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texy 1,437 Report post Posted August 14, 2017 PAN SINGH TOMAR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Audiophile 1,802 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Aag Se Khelenge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chewy 2,513 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 On 8 August 2017 at 4:52 AM, Texan said: Mr. India Now that's a classic from childhood, not seen a Bollywood superhero film come close to this Magambo khush hua! Shahenshah was close too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalpat 83 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) OP has mentioned the word impactful therefore I will list down few of the movies I can think of: 1. Sholay: glamorized Daaku and also made a huge impact on the word dosti. I have heard that college going student of those days use to idolize the friendship of Jay and Veeru. Gabbar became a symbol of bad man. 2. Deewar: Glamorized mafia. For the first time hero was no more usual good boy played by Jitendra, Rajesh Khanna neither was someone fighting against bad man like Dharmendra. A hero who somehow justified his wrong doings and with "phenke paise nahi uthata " attitude. Clearly best of Bacchan. Even his shirt style used to get copied those days. 3. Qayamat se Qayamat Tak: Glamorized chikna hero and eloping. The instances of boy girl eloping became a trend after this movie and this got more strengthen with Dil movie but clearly QSQT had impact on teenagers. Rebel against parents and samaaj. 4. Darr: Glamorized Psycho lovers. Shahrukh Khan character created a huge impact on cine goers. Believe me writing letter with blood and cutting the wrists became very common after this movie. 5. DDLJ: Glamorized cool hero culture. Yes this movie brought the trend of designer jackets, cool hero who is neither chikna nor macho but had a great sense of humor. Movie made couple of things very popular like Europe trip, Punjab ke sarso ke khet, story of NRI , karwa chauth and srk also keeping vrat made life misreable for lot of Indian husband. I think girls still consider the character of Raj as perfect character they wanna see in their BF. Will come up with set of next movies some other time. Edited August 24, 2017 by Khalpat . 1 Mariyam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muloghonto 2,189 Report post Posted August 24, 2017 Pink. Best movie i've seen in a while- from any of the 'woods' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ankit_sharma03 12,906 Report post Posted August 27, 2017 Strange not to read many names Lagaan Jaane bhi do yaaro Dil chahta hai- the movie pretty much started the multiplex movie culture Satya and company Khosla ka ghosla Rang de basanti Kahaani It baffles me how we keep underminning pre Talking of old films- Kagaaz ke phool, albela, Jaagte raho(one of the most underrated films), pyaasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted September 19, 2017 I was wondering which are the most visually appealing films from Bollywood. From the top of my mind, Sanjay Leela Bhansali's films come to mind, Mughal-e-Azam, Pakeezah, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 2,602 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 11:27 PM, Muloghonto said: Pink. Best movie i've seen in a while- from any of the 'woods' PINK is a top notch movie. But Zen's thread is about 'impactful' cinema. One could measure impact in terms of influence on the society in general or influence on film making themes in the future or recall value a few decades into the future. PINK would score abysmally on most of these metrics. For example, DDLJ ushered in this trend of NRI romances in Bollywood. And that stuck around for a while. I do not think PINK is an 'impactful' film at all. Or maybe @ zen needs to clarify what exactly can be called as 'impactful'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muloghonto 2,189 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, Mariyam said: PINK is a top notch movie. But Zen's thread is about 'impactful' cinema. One could measure impact in terms of influence on the society in general or influence on film making themes in the future or recall value a few decades into the future. PINK would score abysmally on most of these metrics. For example, DDLJ ushered in this trend of NRI romances in Bollywood. And that stuck around for a while. I do not think PINK is an 'impactful' film at all. Or maybe @ zen needs to clarify what exactly can be called as 'impactful'. Fair point. i saw 'impacting' as impacting the audience. Pink connects with the person. DDLJ was like fast food for a hungry man- good but easily forgotten. 1 Switchblade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FischerTal 1,034 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) gunda /thread Edited September 20, 2017 by FischerTal 1 1 Ankit_sharma03 and Laaloo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 2,602 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Fair point. i saw 'impacting' as impacting the audience. Pink connects with the person. DDLJ was like fast food for a hungry man- good but easily forgotten. Not really. I could tell you every single dialogue in the movie. I know it by rote. 1 Muloghonto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FischerTal 1,034 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Edited September 20, 2017 by FischerTal 1 Ankit_sharma03 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee_rules 3,743 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 Open the thread to post "In b4 somebody says .."Gunda"! ..but was way too late... 1 1 Laaloo and FischerTal reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maniac 13,435 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 Never seen it but when I was younger I remember Bandit queen as being one of the most controversial film ever made(for that time) Kamasutra but I guess that was a Hollywood production...actually saw that one but never knew what the hype was about(maybe because we discovered the internet by then) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wapas 64 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) On 8/7/2017 at 2:01 PM, zen said: Many Bollywood films have been nominated for Oscars, won major international awards and broken box office records, below are a few that have made a lasting impact for one or a combination of reasons from subject / story, dialogues, cinematography, background score, songs, direction, acting, etc. In no particular order (may be in the order of release): Awara Shree 420 Naya Daur Madhumati Mughal-e-Azam Pakeezah Dangal Waqt motherindia Sholay Kuch Kuch hota hai Baiju Bawra Silsila or SLUM DOG MILLIONAIRE kabhi khushi kabhi gum Edited September 21, 2017 by Wapas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wapas 64 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 4:01 AM, FischerTal said: gunda /thread Raju awara barsaat mein Chori chori dil DE BAITHA, na THI WOH JULI ,NA THI WOH RADHA DIL SE DIL KA SANGUM HOGAYA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wapas 64 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Gazeb tamasha bada kabootar Rickshawala Worst movie I watch in theaters in India Edited September 22, 2017 by Wapas Off topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vijy 1,326 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 On 8/7/2017 at 2:01 PM, zen said: Many Bollywood films have been nominated for Oscars, won major international awards and broken box office records, below are a few that have made a lasting impact for one or a combination of reasons from subject / story, dialogues, cinematography, background score, songs, direction, acting, etc. In no particular order (may be in the order of release): Awara Shree 420 Naya Daur Madhumati Mughal-e-Azam Pakeezah Dangal awara was a big hit in soviet union back then... or so I've been told. I think mother india could be added to that list. got a lot of critical acclaim. the same goes for films by guru dutt, esp. in terms of advancing how songs were rendered. great cinematography in his films. 2 Gollum and Mariyam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 2,602 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 1:31 PM, FischerTal said: gunda You must be an engineer. 2 FischerTal and Gollum reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vijy 1,326 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 4:01 AM, FischerTal said: gunda /thread i knew this answer was a-coming. 1 FischerTal reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, Vijy said: awara was a big hit in soviet union back then... or so I've been told. I think mother india could be added to that list. got a lot of critical acclaim. the same goes for films by guru dutt, esp. in terms of advancing how songs were rendered. great cinematography in his films. I have seen many videos from places in former USSR, Turkey, etc. where they sing "Awaara Hoon" (and "Mera Juta hai Japani") I haven't seen Mother India and Guru Dutt films lately so have left them out. Also wanted to limit the number to 7 (7 wonders ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 2,602 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, zen said: I have seen many videos from places in former USSR, Turkey, etc. where they sing "Awaara Hoon" (and "Mera Juta hai Japani") I haven't seen Mother India and Guru Dutt films lately so have left them out. Also wanted to limit the number to 7 (7 wonders ) You should watch Mother India. It is definitely a more socially relevant/ message driven film (for that era) than a Madhumati or a shree 420. 1 zen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vijy 1,326 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Mariyam said: You should watch Mother India. It is definitely a more socially relevant/ message driven film (for that era) than a Madhumati or a shree 420. agreed. it's a bit overlong but a real powerhouse performance from nargis. a bit of trivia - it almost won the oscar for best foreign language film and lost by just 1 vote (thanks to some confirmed racist whose name I forget). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen 6,607 Report post Posted September 7, 2018 Bollywood gamechangers: Awaara Mughal-e-Azam Waqt - 1st real multi-starrer iirc w/ lost and found theme Bobby Deewar - The relatively negative angry young man character that AB played in many of his films Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasgulla 6,981 Report post Posted September 7, 2018 Sachin a Bllion dreams touched many hearts 2 Switchblade and DHONI_FANN reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I6MTW 198 Report post Posted September 8, 2018 Lamhe. Yash Chopras best and only tolerable movie. Way ahead of its time. Flopped in India but was a hit and influential overseas. Pyaasa very influential and was such a hit with so much critical acclaim. In fact most of guru dutts movies were influential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turning_track 1,300 Report post Posted September 8, 2018 Do Beegha Zameen. Even after more than six decades, the plight of an ordinary farmer still remains in the modern context of society. 1 zen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temujin Khaghan 2,669 Report post Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) I liked Shammi Kapoor's Teesri Manzil the first time i saw it as an 8 year old. But the movie did not age well for me. Now, the movie seems a bit boring. Songs are still spectacular to watch and fresh to listen though :) I always had a soft corner of shammi kapoor's acting, shame that he did not put as much focus on his career and script selection the way rajesh khanna or amitabh did... :/ Edited September 8, 2018 by Temujin Khaghan 1 zen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
