Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 ICC player ranking is flawed. How is Jadeja ranked better than Shakib Al Hasan in Test cricket? Jadeja played mostly in India last 12 months. www.twitter.com/Bangla13c Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Around 13 out of 16 test matches in the last 12 months played in India on those turners! surely he and Ashwin would do well? Flawed ranking system. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) These rankings are based on the performances of the last 3 years with extra weightage on the last 1 year. In the last 3 years Bowling JADEJA Career averages Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 filtered 2015-2017 20 39 996.0 267 2291 110 7/48 10/154 20.82 2.30 54.3 7 1 SHAKIB Career averages Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 Profile filtered 2014-2017 15 26 542.3 85 1742 54 6/59 10/124 32.25 3.21 60.2 4 1 Batting JADEJA Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s filtered 2015-2017 20 29 8 772 90 36.76 1185 65.14 0 7 1 65 25 SHAKIB Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s filtered 2014-2017 15 27 2 1201 217 48.04 1791 67.05 3 5 1 146 7 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=1;spanmax1=09+Aug+2017;spanmin1=09+Aug+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/56143.html?class=1;spanmax1=09+Aug+2017;spanmin1=09+Aug+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling Edited August 9, 2017 by express bowling RAZPOR, Mosher and sourab10forever 3 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 How many test match did Jadeja play in India last three years? Compared to Shakib? Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 In the last 1 years Bowling JADEJA Career averages Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 filtered 16 32 855.1 211 2042 87 7/48 10/154 23.47 2.38 58.9 5 1 SHAKIB Career averages Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 filtered 7 14 294.1 46 919 29 5/85 7/131 31.68 3.12 60.8 1 0 Batting JADEJA Career averages Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s filtered 16 24 8 663 90 41.43 950 69.78 0 7 1 50 25 SHAKIB Career averages Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s filtered 7 14 0 656 217 46.85 966 67.90 2 2 1 82 2 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=1;spanmax2=09+Aug+2017;spanmin2=09+Aug+2016;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/56143.html?class=1;spanmax2=09+Aug+2017;spanmin2=09+Aug+2016;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) How many test match had Jadeja played in India last three years? i would like the number and compared how many Shakib played in BD? Anyone? Jadeja has home advantage now for more than a year! Why wouldn't he be ranked that high? Edited August 9, 2017 by Shamim.Miah Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: Around 13 out of 16 test matches in the last 12 months played in India on those turners! surely he and Ashwin would do well? Flawed ranking system. Shakib has played 5 out of 7 tests in Asia too. This time around, in our home season, only 4 out of 13 tests were on turners, 2 were seaming tracks and 7 were on flat tracks Anderson, Philander etc. often top the rankings by playing mostly on seaming tracks. Don't see you complain then. LordPrabhzy, RAZPOR, Mosher and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: How many test match had Jadeja played in India last three years? i would like the number and compared how many Shakib played in BD? Anyone? Jadeja has home advantage now for more than a year! Why wouldn't he be ranked that high? In the last 3 years Shakib has played 13 out of 15 tests in Asia Jadeja has played 19 out of 20 tests in Asia. Mosher, Vilander and RAZPOR 3 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shakib has played 5 out of 7 tests in Asia too. This time around, in our home season, only 4 out of 13 tests were on turners, 2 were seaming tracks and 7 were on flat tracks Anderson, Philander etc. often top the rankings by playing mostly on seaming tracks. Don't see you complain then. My complaint is away matches should have more weight. The ranking is flawed. Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, express bowling said: In the last 3 years Shakib has played 13 out of 15 tests in Asia Jadeja has played 19 out of 20 tests in Asia. Can you give me the figure for India? how many in India compared to how many in BD by Shakib, please. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Shakib is better batsman than Jadeja and bowling wise Jadeja is better. Indian teams needs Jadeja the bowler more than Jadeja the batsman. Bangladesh needs Shakib both with bat and ball but Shakib is not a match winner with ball even on Bunsen burners. TheWall and sandeep 2 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, Shamim.Miah said: How many test match had Jadeja played in India last three years? i would like the number and compared how many Shakib played in BD? Anyone? Shakib is not even in league. Guys like Stokes, Ali, Ashwin are only competitor to Jadeja. Shakib is still in B league of test cricket. He hasnt faced a serious England , India, Australia. TheWall 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Shamim.Miah said: Can you give me the figure for India? how many in India compared to how many in BD by Shakib, please. The reason why I gave tests for Asia is because the last test we played in Sri Lanka was played on was a turning track as compared to mostly flat tracks for our last home season. In the last 3 years Shakib has played 10 out of 15 tests in Bangladesh Jadeja has played 17 out of 20 tests in India. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Funny how Bangladeshis and Pakistani talk about playing in foreign conditions. sandeep and Vilander 2 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Shakib is better batsman than Jadeja and bowling wise Jadeja is better. Indian teams needs Jadeja the bowler more than Jadeja the batsman. Bangladesh needs Shakib both with bat and ball but Shakib is not a match winner with ball even on Bunsen burners. Anyone is a beast at home my friend, especially on those Indian pitches/turners. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Shamim.Miah said: Anyone is a beast at home my friend, especially on those Indian pitches/turners. What pitches do Bangladesh play on, Shakib is not even in the same ball park as Jadeja as a bowler.I like Shakib but do't go overboard. sandeep, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, express bowling said: The reason why I gave tests for Asia is because the last test we played in Sri Lanka was played on was a turning track as compared to mostly flat tracks for our last home season. In the last 3 years Shakib has played 10 out of 15 tests in Bangladesh Jadeja has played 17 out of 20 tests in India. 85% of Jadeja match played in India! EMBARRASSING! And 66% for Shakib (which is expected) that one plays a bit more than 50% of their matches at home! 85%!!! Goodness me. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: Anyone is a beast at home my friend, especially on those Indian pitches/turners. Indian pitches have rarely been rank turners in the last 2 years. Most are flat pitches these days. This is because, the current Indian batters are not good players of spin. We lost to Australia when we prepared a rank turner. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, express bowling said: Indian pitches have rarely been rank turners in the last 2 years. Most are flat pitches these days. This is because, the current Indian batters are not good players of spin. We lost to Australia when we prepared a rank turner. Indian pitches by default are turners. Even on pitches that favoured seamers, I have seen Indian bowlers get turn. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: 85% of Jadeja match played in India! EMBARRASSING! And 66% for Shakib (which is expected) that one plays a bit more than 50% of their matches at home! 85%!!! Goodness me. Shakib has played 13 out of 15 tests in Asia too. Only 1 test out of 15 against the top 4 test sides in the last 3 years. Jadeja has played 13 tests out of 20 against the top 4 test sides in the last 3 years. Vilander 1 Link to comment
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