express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: Indian pitches by default are turners. Even on pitches that favoured seamers, I have seen Indian bowlers get turn. If only Indian spinners get turn then it must be because of some special ability. And....even non-Asian pitches provide some turn.... like we saw the turn that Mooen and Maharaj got in England..... and the turn Maharaj got in SA..... and the turn Lyon got in Australia. Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shakib has played 13 out of 15 tests in Asia too. Only 1 test out of 15 against the top 4 test sides in the last 3 years. Jadeja has played 13 tests out of 20 against the top 4 test sides in the last 3 years. Let's not talk about Asia. we know how India loves playing Sri Lanka! Hahahah! All the time. Let's not bring Asia into account! last time I saw.. 46% of Ashwins wicket away from home came against Sri Lanka in last five years!!! Edited August 9, 2017 by Shamim.Miah Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jadeja won a test in England with his batting and has 5-fer in SA. RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, Shamim.Miah said: Let's not talk about Asia. we now how India loves playing Sri Lanka! Hahahah! All the time. Let's not bring Asia into account! last time I saw.. 46% of Ashwins wicket away from home came against Sri Lanka in last five years!!! This post does not carry any meaning. If you feel that Indian and Sri Lankan tracks have helped Jadeja then they must have helped Shakib too.... and they will be included in Shakib's list only if we consider Asia. Similarly, the helpful Sri Lankan tracks can be included in Jadeja's list only if we include Asia. Mosher and RAZPOR 2 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Jadeja won a test in England with his batting and has 5-fer in SA. Shakib also has a 5fer against South Africa in South Africa. He has a double century in NZ also just recently! Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, MultiB48 said: as if shakib has been playing every thing abroad ,since jadeja made his test debut shakib has played 4 tests outside asia,out of which 2 in zim, out of 17 tests in asia 14 are in ban. Shakib has played only 1 test out of 15 tests against the top 4 test teams in the last 3 years RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, Shamim.Miah said: Shakib also has a 5fer against South Africa in South Africa. He has a double century in NZ also just recently! Which test match has he won outside Asia? RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, Trichromatic said: Which test match has he won outside Asia? We don't play test enough. So this question is quite irrelevant. If BD played as many test as India at home or even away, he could have won many matches. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Ashwin is better than Shakib. Stokes is better than Shakib. Soon Mitch Marsh will be better than him. You sound like Shakib is like Kapil Dev, Botham, Hadlee lol express bowling and RAZPOR 2 Link to comment
chewy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Soon Afghan and Ireland will overtake Bangla In test rankings RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: We don't play test enough. So this question is quite irrelevant. If BD played as many test as India at home or even away, he could have won many matches. could have should have..lol express bowling 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: We don't play test enough. So this question is quite irrelevant. If BD played as many test as India at home or even away, he could have won many matches. Same goes for Jadeja, if he plays lot of away matches, he could have averaged 50 with bat and 20 with ball. RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 When a guy says winning tests is irrelevant as an indicator on player effectiveness, you know he is trolling or from a minnow team following. RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Shamim.Miah Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Same goes for Jadeja, if he plays lot of away matches, he could have averaged 50 with bat and 20 with ball. But whatever chance he got outside of home, his average is really bad. Have you seen his batting average compared to Shakib? Away from home past 5 years? Shakib 49. Something Jadeja 24. Something Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 As far as I know even the opposition counts while awarding ranking points right? If yes than this is a possible explanation why Shakib was overrated in the rankings. BD always played teams ranked higher and hence Shakib bagged more points with even decent performances. Jadeja on the other hand would bag less points for equal performances as India (Ranked 1/2 for most part of last 2 years) played lower ranked teams. RAZPOR, Mosher and express bowling 3 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shamim.Miah said: But whatever chance he got outside of home, his average is really bad. Have you seen his batting average compared to Shakib? Away from home past 5 years? Shakib 49. Something Jadeja 24. Something Shakib was in his prime during the last 5 year. Jadeja is in his prime now. And the rankings are a reflection of recent performances and do not consider 4-5 years back as recent. express bowling and RAZPOR 2 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 @Shamim Miah Bangladesh harldy play test and playing away is even rarer..what are you talking about? express bowling and RAZPOR 2 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) A lot of bangladeshis are outraged about thier national hero the great shri sir sir shakib ji being wrongly displaced by BCCI and ICC in cohoots to dishonor th great cricketing heritage of the east bengali nation . This issue needs to raised at the UNSC and the fake allrounders jadeja and stokes need to shamed and shown thier place ,as Shri sir sir Shakib ji is rightly the greatest alrounder of last 3 decades ,competing only with greatest in his discipline. Joy east bongla!! Edited August 9, 2017 by RAZPOR TheWall, Mosher and Tibarn 3 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 hour ago, RAZPOR said: A lot of bangladeshis are outraged about thier national hero the great shri sir sir shakib ji being wrongly displaced by BCCI and ICC in cohoots to dishonor th great cricketing heritage of the east bengali nation . This issue needs to raised at the UNSC and the fake allrounders jadeja and stokes need to shamed and shown thier place ,as Shri sir sir Shakib ji is rightly the greatest alrounder of last 3 decades ,competing only with greatest in his discipline. Joy east bongla!! lol ... Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 i am very happy with BD. they are even more pathetic than India, though not as hopelessly so like pakistan, so they will play cricket even after India looses interest in it, about 100 years after rest of world looses interest in it..lol greatest alrounder...hehe Link to comment
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