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Football season back :yay:

 

Keep this thread for discussion about all this football( Transfers / Matches / Fantasy league )  this season.

 

Premier League starts on this weekend (August 12).

 

Bundesliga and Laliga starts on next week Friday ,18th August .Seria A on 19th .

 

Link for broadcasters in Indian TV:

 

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UEFA Europa League Sony Pictures Sports Network
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Serie A Sony Pictures Sports Network
Ligue 1 Sony Pictures Sports Network

 

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On 12/9/2017 at 2:25 AM, Old guy said:

United must win the game this Sunday to have a title race..

 

biggest game of season son as this might decide wheather city win title or others have chance .

BTW whose username is this? :hmmm: 

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3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Thoughts on the UCL draw?

:(( Could be worse..  I ll take SEV anyday. Don't think this team is anywhere near that Top level. Getting to SF this yr is like winning for me. 

 

:hysterical: In my own world ..We draw pool in QF, City in SF(they won't go at same pace they are going now). Somewhere sometime I except them to drop that form + Revenge for yesterday and then who ever shows up in Finals ll win:((:((

 

Before all that need a solid Jan window and throw lot of a deadwood.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

:(( Could be worse..  I ll take SEV anyday. Don't think this team is anywhere near that Top level. Getting to SF this yr is like winning for me. 

 

:hysterical: In my own world ..We draw pool in QF, City in SF(they won't go at same pace they are going now). Somewhere sometime I except them to drop that form + Revenge for yesterday and then who ever shows up in Finals ll win:((:((

 

Before all that need a solid Jan window and throw lot of a deadwood.

 

 

Unfortunately no matter how much United spends they still seem 4-5 players short of competing against elite clubs (City count as elite now :((). Don't have much hope from the Jan transfer window although a quality right winger would be nice. In the summer they can finally get a top notch left back and Herrera's replacement.

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11 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Unfortunately no matter how much United spends they still seem 4-5 players short of competing against elite clubs (City count as elite now :((). Don't have much hope from the Jan transfer window although a quality right winger would be nice. In the summer they can finally get a top notch left back and Herrera's replacement.

Would be a waste of money to buy LB... Shaw is good enough but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Need a RW,NO.10, CM and then we can think about replacing RB,STRIKER( I don't have much hopes on him). We wasted money on him and fragile MIKI who is turning out to be worse than him this year) 

 

This jan window i want them out and more in june

 

Out : darmien, Blind, Miki

 

In: some CM and RW/no.10(Ozil as short term fix) 20M prob (That midfield is a joke without pogba)

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9 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Would be a waste of money to buy LB... Shaw is good enough but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Need a RW,NO.10, CM and then we can think about replacing RB,STRIKER( I don't have much hopes on him). We wasted money on him and fragile MIKI who is turning out to be worse than him this year) 

 

This jan window i want them out and more in june

 

Out : darmien, Blind, Miki

 

In: some CM and RW/no.10(Ozil as short term fix) 20M prob (That midfield is a joke without pogba)

Shaw apparently has attitude problems (even Poch has mentioned that). United have already invested 3 years in him without much return. I am not against keeping him as 2nd choice LB but need a proven LB ASAP (though not Rose). Mkhi has been a major disappointment indeed. Maybe a chance to do a part player deal with Dortmund to get Pulisic in the summer? Malcom is the guy I want to play on the right. He's the next best thing from Ligue 1. Ozil is another Lukaku type FTB. Will bully the crap teams but goes AWOL in the big games. Darmian, Blind and maybe even Herrera are done at the club at the end of this season. Milinkovic-Savic is being mentioned as the next serious target to play in the central midfield. Would be a huge upgrade on Fellaini and Herrera but will cost a bomb.

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31 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Shaw apparently has attitude problems (even Poch has mentioned that). United have already invested 3 years in him without much return. I am not against keeping him as 2nd choice LB but need a proven LB ASAP (though not Rose). Mkhi has been a major disappointment indeed. Maybe a chance to do a part player deal with Dortmund to get Pulisic in the summer? Malcom is the guy I want to play on the right. He's the next best thing from Ligue 1. Ozil is another Lukaku type FTB. Will bully the crap teams but goes AWOL in the big games. Darmian, Blind and maybe even Herrera are done at the club at the end of this season. Milinkovic-Savic is being mentioned as the next serious target to play in the central midfield. Would be a huge upgrade on Fellaini and Herrera but will cost a bomb.

Sandro is available in the market.. He will cost 60 to 65M.. Our luck with Dortmund players has always been bad bad enough..Who ever we buy from them turns out into a absolute failure. I don't even know at this point. I think Ozil gets lot of stick for nothing.. You see when he plays for Germany he is something else and he has worked with jose at madrid he was damn good. He would be a big upgrade to whatever we are having right now at cheap price.. Could be a free transfer in June as well. There are reports saying 95M.. This is too much now no player who hasn't proved himself at big stage deserves that much. I don't want this to be another lukaku situation (Overpaying players )

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8 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Sandro is available in the market.. He will cost 60 to 65M.. Our luck with Dortmund players has always been bad bad enough..Who ever we buy from them turns out into a absolute failure. I don't even know at this point. I think Ozil gets lot of stick for nothing.. You see when he plays for Germany he is something else and he has worked with jose at madrid he was damn good. He would be a big upgrade to whatever we are having right now at cheap price.. Could be a free transfer in June as well. There are reports saying 95M.. This is too much now no player who hasn't proved himself at big stage deserves that much. I don't want this to be another lukaku situation (Overpaying players )

Sandro will be quality but there is some speculation that the United links to him are just to get the price down for Rose :fear1:. The stuff about Dortmund players is true but Pulisic has stood out while playing for a mediocre Borussia side so perhaps he isn't as system dependent as Mkhi or Kagawa. Ozil was top notch at Real and would've been a good signing in 2013 but right now I am a little wary after seeing him do the invisible act at Arsenal for years. Would prefer getting someone with his best years ahead of him.

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33 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Sandro will be quality but there is some speculation that the United links to him are just to get the price down for Rose :fear1:. The stuff about Dortmund players is true but Pulisic has stood out while playing for a mediocre Borussia side so perhaps he isn't as system dependent as Mkhi or Kagawa. Ozil was top notch at Real and would've been a good signing in 2013 but right now I am a little wary after seeing him do the invisible act at Arsenal for years. Would prefer getting someone with his best years ahead of him.

I honestly don't think how rose is any better than Shaw in first place. It should be sandro or nothing. I think Ozil isn't interested anymore he doesn't care just like sanchez.. Market is so bad right now even 20M player ll cost 50M at the moment. Unfortunately we are not backed by OILmafia or even by country. We have our limitations to spend.

 

More likely jose ll be gone after next season and same old **** ll repeat with new manager. I didn't like the way we played yesterday it was disgusting. Martial and rashford playing LWB and RWB when they got joke of a defence and no LB. Tnx to lukaku and jose **** tactics they won... Not sure why he doesn't drop lukaku. What does he even offer to the Team at this point. Can't score, no first touch, can't hold, can't even get past single defender, misses simple sitters + helps other teams with assists. Prob the worst striker in club's history 

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12 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

I honestly don't think how rose is any better than Shaw in first place. It should be sandro or nothing. I think Ozil isn't interested anymore he doesn't care just like sanchez.. Market is so bad right now even 20M player ll cost 50M at the moment. Unfortunately we are not backed by OILmafia or even by country. We have our limitations to spend.

Shaw at his best was better than Rose but he just hasn't been the same after his injury. And now one hears about all the attitude problems and his lack of drive. Maybe if he hadn't gotten injured vs PSV he could've been first choice LB for a decade :((. Ozil may work in the short term but after 1-2 years United would be looking for alternatives and getting him off the wage bill may be tough.

 

19 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

More likely jose ll be gone after next season and same old **** ll repeat with new manager. I didn't like the way we played yesterday it was disgusting. Martial and rashford playing LWB and RWB when they got joke of a defence and no LB. Tnx to lukaku and jose **** tactics they won... Not sure why he doesn't drop lukaku. What does he even offer to the Team at this point. Can't score, no first touch, can't hold, can't even get past single defender, misses simple sitters + helps other teams with assists. Prob the worst striker in club's history 

Probably he will. I just hope he leaves with one major title (PL or CL). I am not a fan of his style of football but that's what has worked for him over the years and he's unlikely to change. Maybe it would help if changed his no. 2 every now and then like Fergie. Lukaku was shocking yesterday but overall hasn't been that bad. Although I would've much preferred signing Morata instead.

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16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Probably he will. I just hope he leaves with one major title (PL or CL). I am not a fan of his style of football but that's what has worked for him over the years and he's unlikely to change. Maybe it would help if changed his no. 2 every now and then like Fergie. Lukaku was shocking yesterday but overall hasn't been that bad. Although I would've much preferred signing Morata instead.

Not a chance with UCL to be brutally honest. If City does more signings next summer you really think anyone stands a chance even next season ? His tactics against top 6 are just wrong. Wasn't it supposed to be park the bus away against big teams and go for it at home... What was that yesterday? Parking the bus even at home. 

 

Lukaku was our 3rd choice striker after greizmann and morata. He goes missing against big teams he can bully small teams all he wants no one cares.. He lacks basic football sense which is pathetic..when i saw his first game against madrid I knew we fecked up. I am hearing news about that Tunnel drama with Mou and this guy.. what's the point of doing all that after the match ? Take it on the chin and move on.. show that passion on the pitch next time. No point running to their dressing room and saying "show some respect"... playing hoofball like stoke.. When fans in stadium are dead after that 2nd goal you know you messed up. It's like they gave up after they got that 2nd goal which is even embarrassing. Hopeless without pogba..

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32 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

A signing that is extremely needed. @Rasgulla

All I know is he has huge potential from fifa 18:yahoo: but I ll take anyone for RW.. we have non at this point. UNT's own saneeeee 

 

Won't be insane price + 20 yr old.. sorted for future. Hope we get him in jan that ll end Bale nonsense forever. :stickyman:Medical room is already full don't need him.

 

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1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Yep. I think Juve could use him in a swap for Sandro. United could also get a decent price for him from another Serie A side. But a new right winger is the biggest priority.

I hope that's the last time I ll ever see Rashford on right. Lot of fans saying why don't you play mar-luk-rash.. There you go he was proved right again. 

 

Sandro ll be great.. Hopefully it can be done. Need a RW so baddddd can't even say and a proper attacking Midfielder. 

 

Those 3 needs to be done in jan.. Even any of 2 ll be great. Owners needs to act and fully back him.

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15 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

I hope that's the last time I ll ever see Rashford on right. Lot of fans saying why don't you play mar-luk-rash.. There you go he was proved right again. 

 

Sandro ll be great.. Hopefully it can be done. Need a RW so baddddd can't even say and a proper attacking Midfielder. 

 

Those 3 needs to be done in jan.. Even any of 2 ll be great. Owners needs to act and fully back him.

Tbh I have never been a fan of playing Rashford or Martial on the right. I mean you can get away by playing one striker on the wing but playing both is too much. Both of them are better on the left. Although I think Jose should mix things up every now and then by playing Martial as a no. 9. Width from right is essential. Mata is the last guy you'd want on the right if you are playing on the counter. Slows everything down. Fabinho and back up CM/RB and Sandro as first choice LB would be great. 

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On 21/12/2017 at 10:28 PM, Jimmy Cliff said:

Tbh I have never been a fan of playing Rashford or Martial on the right. I mean you can get away by playing one striker on the wing but playing both is too much. Both of them are better on the left. Although I think Jose should mix things up every now and then by playing Martial as a no. 9. Width from right is essential. Mata is the last guy you'd want on the right if you are playing on the counter. Slows everything down. Fabinho and back up CM/RB and Sandro as first choice LB would be great. 

Back to 6th we go :elefant: 

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9 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

@Jimmy Cliff I don't know how Ed pulled that one off.. Magnificent 

 

 

You would know that clown if you watch Arsenalfamtv.. Must watch 

I do watch AFTV whenever they have poor results. Good old Claude was very respectful about United following the transfer. With another elite attacker signed, can we start dreaming about a fluke CL win? :drool:

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26 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

I do watch AFTV whenever they have poor results. Good old Claude was very respectful about United following the transfer. With another elite attacker signed, can we start dreaming about a fluke CL win? :drool:

:dance: Claude is genuine gunner he is my fav.. followed by hamroll troopz:phehe: Rest of them are bunch of jokers. It was funny other day troopz said sanchez can go f himself and next day he took a pic with him :giggle: and posted an emotional tribute on snap chat. I love this passionate fans like claude and Troopz.. 

 

Whereas UCL goes :(( SF is a victory for me... Have to be realistic Unless we get spurs/juvu in QF and pool is SF:aha: I ll sit down and pray we can fluke Final :om: 

 

We need a RW so bad.. I don't think Jose ll play him in RW although he did at Barca.. He said he likes to play in Left or central ( I don't know how good he is at no.10 ) Sanchez for Marital on left is a big :nono: for me.. Unless he wants to play LWB :embaressed_smile: 

 

352

                 Martial - luka

Sanchez- pogba- lingard(ozil)-matic- kaptaan

                    Back 3 

 

433

 

Martial - luka - Sanchez

      Pogba - New CM 

              Matic

Shaw* - jones- Bailly - kaptaan

 

Shaw = Give him a change till end of the season and make a final decision. Jose is impressed with him lately. ( saying 50m atleast ) 

 

4231

 

Just lingard in the middle / ( Free ozil in summer would be great ) 

 

 

Edited by Rasgulla

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6 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

:dance: Claude is genuine gunner he is my fav.. followed by hamroll troopz:phehe: Rest of them are bunch of jokers. It was funny other day troopz said sanchez can go f himself and next day he took a pic with him :giggle: and posted an emotional tribute on snap chat. I love this passionate fans like claude and Troopz.. 

 

Whereas UCL goes :(( SF is a victory for me... Have to be realistic Unless we get spurs/juvu in QF and pool is SF:aha: I ll sit down and pray we can fluke Final :om: 

 

We need a RW so bad.. I don't think Jose ll play him in RW although he did at Barca.. He said he likes to play in Left or central ( I don't know how good he is at no.10 ) Sanchez for Marital on left is a big :nono: for me.. Unless he wants to play LWB :embaressed_smile: 

 

352

                 Martial - luka

Sanchez- pogba- lingard(ozil)matic- new signing 

                    Back 3 

 

433

 

Martial - luka - Sanchez

      Pogba - New CM 

              Matic

Shaw* - jones- Bailly - kaptaan

 

Shaw = Give him a change till end of the season and make a final decision. Jose is impressed with him lately. ( saying 50m atleast ) 

 

4231

 

Just lingard in the middle / ( Free ozil in summer would be great ) 

 

 

Should just hijack Malcolm's deal to Spurs in the summer IMO. Lukaku upfront with Martial, Sanchez and Malcolm as the interchangeable 3 just behind.

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7 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Should just hijack Malcolm's deal to Spurs in the summer IMO. Lukaku upfront with Martial, Sanchez and Malcolm as the interchangeable 3 just behind.

He is too young.. we don't time for another young player. Time to win a big trophy. Been long long time :(( 

 

I have a feeling madrid ll put bale for sale if he gets injured one more time the end of the season.. Bale would solve the problem but he is made of glass. I expect a big signing in summer. Need to go big for world class CM if possible.. RW as well. We are getting there anyway.

Edited by Rasgulla

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5 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

He is too young.. we don't time for another young player. Time to win a big trophy. Been long long time :(( 

 

I have a feeling madrid ll put bale for sale if he gets injured one more time the end of the season.. Bale would solve the problem but he is made of glass. I expect a big signing in summer. Need to go big for world class CM if possible.. RW as well. We are getting there anyway.

Please no Bale. Would be a massive liability with his injury record. Leon Bailey or Pulisic should be alternatives if Malcolm is deemed too young. Weigl, Ballera, SMS and Seri are being linked as CMs. I'd be happy with any of these guys.

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9 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Please no Bale. Would be a massive liability with his injury record. Leon Bailey or Pulisic should be alternatives if Malcolm is deemed too young. Weigl, Ballera, SMS and Seri are being linked as CMs. I'd be happy with any of these guys.

But the problem is...board always looks for a guy who is marketable when they spend big :(( more than what we actually need. SMS is pogba kind of signing but they are quoting 85£ I think... Jose said we will be singing 2 CMs in summer That's it.

 

I think he is planning on rotating kaptaan with mensah which is good. Maybe young and shaw on the left. I just hope we sell our deadwood like blind and darmien (this guy especially needs to be gone) and they shouldn't bend over for Fellaini's wage demands.. pep buying another defender worth 65£ that takes his defence bùdget to £ 365M

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5 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

But the problem is...board always looks for a guy who is marketable when they spend big :(( more than what we actually need. SMS is pogba kind of signing but they are quoting 85£ I think... Jose said we will be singing 2 CMs in summer That's it.

 

I think he is planning on rotating kaptaan with mensah which is good. Maybe young and shaw on the left. I just hope we sell our deadwood like blind and darmien (this guy especially needs to be gone) and they shouldn't bend over for Fellaini's wage demands.. pep buying another defender worth 65£ that takes his defence bùdget to £ 365M

I think one new CM + Perreira coming back should be good enough. Should leave enough money for a top notch RW. Haven't followed TFM's progress at Palace but he wasn't very good going forward under LVG. Not sure if he has improved on that. If Shaw stays fit and plays well till the end of the season then Jose can put off signing a new LB. Darmian will leave for sure. The one truly muppet signing for me would be Dybala. Would be extremely hard to sign since he is a Barca/City wanker but one can dream :drool:.

Edited by Jimmy Cliff

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