Domestic Cricket Ranji Trophy 2017/18

[King Tendulkar]

5 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

You get to know caliber of a player by seeing such innings, not wasting 3 years on Rajkot type of pitches. 

Kid is special 

 

rahane is World class bat . Both batted at same time in first innings . Shaw made rahane look like club player in comparison . Kid is 17 . Wow 

[King Tendulkar]

4 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

I doubt if he will be able to handle Anderson, Broad, Woakes and Stokes. He is one of the best #3 i have seen in Asian conditions, but below average places where ball swings.  

Not so sure . Test Ton in sa . He can do it . But he is no kohli

[Bleed-Blue]

One to watch out for Anmolpreet Singh.

[SandeepMotta]

Basant Mohanty has crazy stats.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Prithvi shaw shud be the 1st name to any A-tour now 

 

Is there any game happening between Mumbai vs bengal , really wanna see how he plays shami 

[Lannister]

KL, Shaw, Iyer, Pant.. These guys will turn out to be better than the current bunch. Hope they won't rot on the bench for too long. 

[tweaker]

Off-spinner Malolan Rangarajan and rookie paceman V Lakshman were today picked in the Tamil Nadu team to face Odisha in the Ranji Trophy Group "C" match at Cuttack from November 9 to 12.

 

The team would be without the services of ace off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin and opener Murali Vijay, who have been selected in the India team for the Test series against Sri Lanka, scheduled to begin from November 16

 

.Tamil Nadu would also miss the presence of experienced batsman-wicketkeeper Dinesh Karthik.

 

Squad: Abhinav Mukund (captain), B Indrajith (vice-captain), M Kaushik Gandhi, B Aparajith, Vijay Shankar N Jagadeesan (WK), M S Washington Sundar, R Sai Kishore, Rahil S Shah, K Vignesh, V Yo Mahesh, L Vignesh, R Rohith (WK), V Ganga Sridhar Raju, Malolan Rangarajan and V Lakshman

[wanted_desi]

Hopefully Rahane will have a word with management regarding Shaw. It would do shaw great since he was on another level than anyone in team. 

Edited November 3, 2017 by wanted_desi

[SK_IH]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Prithvi shaw shud be the 1st name to any A-tour now 

 

Is there any game happening between Mumbai vs bengal , really wanna see how he plays shami 

why only A tour,why not for once throw someone in intl cricket because he seems to be intl class,is this some kind of an academic route for selection,first A tour than intl team

indian cricket system is by far the most boring and mechanical in the world,no surprises we have started choking in crucial moments,everything is formulaic ,we are well on our way to becoming the next SA

[express bowling]

Yarra Prithviraj   4 for 56

[express bowling]

Aaron   31-9-96-3

[renjith]

2 hours ago, SK_IH said:

why only A tour,why not for once throw someone in intl cricket because he seems to be intl class,is this some kind of an academic route for selection,first A tour than intl team

indian cricket system is by far the most boring and mechanical in the world,no surprises we have started choking in crucial moments,everything is formulaic ,we are well on our way to becoming the next SA

I understand the advantages of picking a kid in indian team with little first class exp or A team exp. If he clicks, it will look great.

 

But the disadvantages outweigh the advantages:

 

1) by doing that we devalue domestic cricket and performances in domestic cricket. that sends a wrong message to everyone toiling hard in domestic cricket. what is the message we convey to shreyas iyer if we pick shaw ahead of him in test team? this is far more damaging than one can think. this does not mean select players based on domestic stats. this is a completely different thing.

2) if the move fails it may destroy the career of that kid. not everytime. but there is possibility. parthiv patel comes to mind. later in one of his interviews, he clearly mentioned he was not ready when selected.

3) going for random picks has more disadvantages than consistently following a system (u19 -> first class -> a team -> senior team). that way we value our system more and players will have more faith in the system.

 

If domestic cricket has short comings, we should try to fix that instead of making selections bypassing it.

Edited November 3, 2017 by renjith

[rkt.india]

Mayank Aggarwal batting on 275

[Ankit_sharma03]

kishen 51 *

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, SK_IH said:

why only A tour,why not for once throw someone in intl cricket because he seems to be intl class,is this some kind of an academic route for selection,first A tour than intl team

indian cricket system is by far the most boring and mechanical in the world,no surprises we have started choking in crucial moments,everything is formulaic ,we are well on our way to becoming the next SA

Im always up for fast tracking a fast bowler but for batsman and spinner ....thoda pakkne do 

We already have vijay n rahul, he wud be on bench only so rather polish ur skills on A-tour . Openers ki koi bht kumi to hai nhin abhi jaise parthiv ke time keepers ka akaal tha 

 

Many openers have thrown their hat in the ring now- mayank, prashant, panchal, samarth , shaw.......let them all compete it out even though shaw is better but let them show on a-tours

 

 

What indian cricket, Aussie cricket at its peak didnt give chances to player under 30 easily 

[SK_IH]

2 hours ago, renjith said:

I understand the advantages of picking a kid in indian team with little first class exp or A team exp. If he clicks, it will look great.

 

But the disadvantages outweigh the advantages:

 

1) by doing that we devalue domestic cricket and performances in domestic cricket. that sends a wrong message to everyone toiling hard in domestic cricket. what is the message we convey to shreyas iyer if we pick shaw ahead of him in test team? this is far more damaging than one can think. this does not mean select players based on domestic stats. this is a completely different thing.

2) if the move fails it may destroy the career of that kid. not everytime. but there is possibility. parthiv patel comes to mind. later in one of his interviews, he clearly mentioned he was not ready when selected.

3) going for random picks has more disadvantages than consistently following a system (u19 -> first class -> a team -> senior team). that way we value our system more and players will have more faith in the system.

 

If domestic cricket has short comings, we should try to fix that instead of making selections bypassing it.

 

19 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Im always up for fast tracking a fast bowler but for batsman and spinner ....thoda pakkne do 

We already have vijay n rahul, he wud be on bench only so rather polish ur skills on A-tour . Openers ki koi bht kumi to hai nhin abhi jaise parthiv ke time keepers ka akaal tha 

 

Many openers have thrown their hat in the ring now- mayank, prashant, panchal, samarth , shaw.......let them all compete it out even though shaw is better but let them show on a-tours

 

 

What indian cricket, Aussie cricket at its peak didnt give chances to player under 30 easily 

well cant argue with the facts you two make ,you are making sense, i think i am fully disillusioned with the current set up of ind cricket,which actually sucks 

[jusarrived]

4 hours ago, SK_IH said:

why only A tour,why not for once throw someone in intl cricket because he seems to be intl class,is this some kind of an academic route for selection,first A tour than intl team

indian cricket system is by far the most boring and mechanical in the world,no surprises we have started choking in crucial moments,everything is formulaic ,we are well on our way to becoming the next SA

Yeah agree , no better time to bring him in as backup opener . Give him opportunities in case of injuries . The good thing is at this age , even if he fails he can still go back to domestic for 1-2 years and he will still be a 20 year old . 

You have to make exceptions for talents like him . The normal process of Domestic > A tours > National team is fine for good players , but this kid could be extra special its criminal not to give him that opportunity now. 

[jusarrived]

2 hours ago, renjith said:

I understand the advantages of picking a kid in indian team with little first class exp or A team exp. If he clicks, it will look great.

 

But the disadvantages outweigh the advantages:

 

1) by doing that we devalue domestic cricket and performances in domestic cricket. that sends a wrong message to everyone toiling hard in domestic cricket. what is the message we convey to shreyas iyer if we pick shaw ahead of him in test team? this is far more damaging than one can think. this does not mean select players based on domestic stats. this is a completely different thing.

2) if the move fails it may destroy the career of that kid. not everytime. but there is possibility. parthiv patel comes to mind. later in one of his interviews, he clearly mentioned he was not ready when selected.

3) going for random picks has more disadvantages than consistently following a system (u19 -> first class -> a team -> senior team). that way we value our system more and players will have more faith in the system.

 

If domestic cricket has short comings, we should try to fix that instead of making selections bypassing it.

1. Wrong message to whom ? Other batsmen who where scoring 100s at will when they where 17 ? eg Iyer wasnt this good at this age , so he has no reasons to complain . 

2. Hes 17 , he can make 3 comebacks with a 2 year gap and he will still be around 23 . 

3. you have to make exceptions . with this thought process Tendulkar may have never played for India , could have infact      destroyed his confidence if he had to to wait for his turn till he turned 23 . 

 

[renjith]

13 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

1. Wrong message to whom ? Other batsmen who where scoring 100s at will when they where 17 ? eg Iyer wasnt this good at this age , so he has no reasons to complain . 

2. Hes 17 , he can make 3 comebacks with a 2 year gap and he will still be around 23 . 

3. you have to make exceptions . with this thought process Tendulkar may have never played for India , could have infact      destroyed his confidence if he had to to wait for his turn till he turned 23 . 

 

1. iyer was not better at 17 doesn't matter. but preset iyer has proved that he is better than present shaw is wat matters. has shaw proved yet that he is better than vijay, dhawan, rahul, panchal, prasanth chopra, mayank agarwal, samrath, ...?

2. yes wat you said is possible. losing his way is just 1 possibility. hasan raza, shivaramakrishnan, manider singh comes to mind. cant prove they lost their way coz they made debut so young. but immaturity to handle failure could be a reason.

3. sachin played a full ranji season and then next seasons irani trophy before making debut. also i think sachin went to england twice with india youth before making india senior debut. though not fully sure abt this. still sachins selection was not conventional. as i said earlier if it works it will look great.

[renjith]

anyone watched shaw play against any intl quality bowler? he played against ashwin I guess. Any other intl bowler he faced yet?

 

update: just saw he got 66 against nzw with boult. thats promising.

Edited November 3, 2017 by renjith