maniac Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Another not out and 49(42) this day and age with the kind of start we had is pathetic and I am pretty sure a lot of momentum was sucked in the process as well...This is out let lower order power hitter Laaloo, King Tendulkar, beetle and 8 others 1 4 6 Link to comment
rahulrulezz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Wait till his media agency sponsors memes on Facebook pages with how cool Dhonis six was (when he was in 31 of 36), how he selflessly guided Pandey to score a fifty, how calmly he takes a dump etc etc Shunya, OpeningBatsman, sscomp32 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, maniac said: Another not out and 49(42) this day and age with the kind of start we had is pathetic and I am pretty sure a lot of momentum was sucked in the process as well...This is out let lower order power hitter the guy on the other end made 50(42), hit one less boundary n no six What start, dhoni didnt enter when it was 225/2 . he entered when it was 274/5 One more wkt and we were into the tail and forget 350 to then Did any of the centurion batted till 45 overs or end or we have -5-7 wkts left How many gr8s have u seen batting the same way whole life, tendulkar s/r fluctuated a lot, ganguly dipped, sehwag n yuvi s/r went up runs went down Sheer lynch mobbing nothing else, if u got blame him be fair addd the other guy batting at same s/r on other end Shunya, Soorma_Bhopali, Vilander and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Let's drop Dhoni right away and have KL Rahul do the keeping in ODIs. In case you need it spelt out - above was /s. Sidhoni, sscomp32 and MCcricket 1 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, sandeep said: Today's Dhoni is not Dhoni of 2006, who would really be a perfect fit at #5 or 6 for us right now, but not sure why Indian cricket fans keep harping over something that's not going to happen and petulantly hate on Dhoni simply because he doesn't fit the round peg they want him to fit in. Fact is that even this aging diminished Dhoni offers decent value as a #4 bat - with his experience and reliability, he is a quality #4 batsman, and since he keeps wickets, he frees up another slot in the XI. Before I get a tirade of nonsense insults thrown at me, I said decent value, not exceptional value, decent. Just because we don't have other slugging options available to us apart from Hardik Pandya, doesn't mean that Dhoni's useless and has to go unless he magically reverts to his younger self. TLDR: Stop hating on India's best ODI captain ever, stop wishing for him to re-spawn into his younger self - evaluate him dispassionately for what he is. Else you are just a sad victim of your own expectations. Dhoni's not going to be a power hitter anymore. Deal with it. Evaluate him as the steadying middle order bat who will control the middle and give you around 90-115 SR on most days. That's not a horrible player to have in the side. Of course, if he starts piling up repeated innings of 22(38), then he needs to be pushed out. No arguments on that. Edited August 31, 2017 by sandeep Brettcat, Soorma_Bhopali, sscomp32 and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment
kira Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The torture will end after another CT final like fiasco in World Cup 2019 rahulrulezz, Shunya, maniac and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment
rahulrulezz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: the guy on the other end made 50(42), hit one less boundary n no six What start, dhoni didnt enter when it was 225/2 . he entered when it was 274/5 One more wkt and we were into the tail and forget 350 to then Did any of the centurion batted till 45 overs or end or we have -5-7 wkts left How many gr8s have u seen batting the same way whole life, tendulkar s/r fluctuated a lot, ganguly dipped, sehwag n yuvi s/r went up runs went down Sheer lynch mobbing nothing else, if u got blame him be fair addd the other guy batting at same s/r on other end So you comparing Dhoni to a guy who just came into the team and would be dropped again for Dhoni if he didn't click. Key thing was Pandrey from ball one from rotated strike and had a strike rate above 115 but didn't face many balls in last three death overs. On the other hand, Dhoni who came in at a relaxing time of 275-5, played at a strike rate of 75 and almost got out when was he was 31 of 37. And faced most balls in last three overs and still score nearly 49 of 42 LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, kira said: The torture will end after another CT final like fiasco in World Cup 2019 What did the great Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli do in the CT final fiasco? Or is simply all just Dhoni's fault. How about some blame on Kuptaan aggressive for letting a sub-par batting line-up slog their way to a 330+ total? Is that also Dhoni's fault. Rasgulla, GoldenSun, Sidhoni and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said: So you comparing Dhoni to a guy who just came into the team and would be dropped again for Dhoni if he didn't click. Once ur set ur set.......then no excuse or something and manish pandey generally bats at those s/r Look at ur expectation- no crickets plays same way throughout his career 3 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said: Key thing was Pandrey from ball one from rotated strike and had a strike rate above 115 but didn't face many balls in last three death overs. On the other hand, Dhoni who came in at a relaxing time of 275-5, played at a strike rate of 75 and almost got out when was he was 31 of 37. And faced most balls in last three overs and still score nearly 49 of 42 Means pandey slowed down at last and dhoni picked up So thats how partnership works - one takes the charge then another sscomp32 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: What did the great Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli do in the CT final fiasco? Or is simply all just Dhoni's fault. How about some blame on Kuptaan aggressive for letting a sub-par batting line-up slog their way to a 330+ total? Is that also Dhoni's fault. You are talking to a hater what you expect Nikola 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: the guy on the other end made 50(42), hit one less boundary n no six What start, dhoni didnt enter when it was 225/2 . he entered when it was 274/5 One more wkt and we were into the tail and forget 350 to then Did any of the centurion batted till 45 overs or end or we have -5-7 wkts left How many gr8s have u seen batting the same way whole life, tendulkar s/r fluctuated a lot, ganguly dipped, sehwag n yuvi s/r went up runs went down Sheer lynch mobbing nothing else, if u got blame him be fair addd the other guy batting at same s/r on other end And still has a better s/r than Dhoni??? so wait if Rohit or Kohli kept going you would say they should hit out and not slow the momentum and if they get out and the next guy does tuk tuk you say he is consolidating lol. Dhoni adds nothing anymore....if he wants to be a consolidator bat him at 3...but he is too scared for that. 6-7 is not a position for someone who consolidates,if he gets out hitting out in any situation then too bad or if he can consolidate in a back to wall situation it's a bonus but 6-7 should be a power hitter....PERIOD Dhoni is done Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: What did the great Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli do in the CT final fiasco? Or is simply all just Dhoni's fault. How about some blame on Kuptaan aggressive for letting a sub-par batting line-up slog their way to a 330+ total? Is that also Dhoni's fault. Or dhawan who was set in that final sscomp32 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: the guy on the other end made 50(42), hit one less boundary n no six What start, dhoni didnt enter when it was 225/2 . he entered when it was 274/5 One more wkt and we were into the tail and forget 350 to then Did any of the centurion batted till 45 overs or end or we have -5-7 wkts left How many gr8s have u seen batting the same way whole life, tendulkar s/r fluctuated a lot, ganguly dipped, sehwag n yuvi s/r went up runs went down Sheer lynch mobbing nothing else, if u got blame him be fair addd the other guy batting at same s/r on other end Why are you wasting your time and giving straight answers to those sachin bhakts.. YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. Stop wasting your time. Do you expect serious answer from them? Laaloo and Nikola 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: What did the great Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli do in the CT final fiasco? Or is simply all just Dhoni's fault. How about some blame on Kuptaan aggressive for letting a sub-par batting line-up slog their way to a 330+ total? Is that also Dhoni's fault. No it was a collective failure agreed...so you are showing one collective failure a big one at that to say that Dhoni is not a problem??? Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: You are talking to a hater what you expect No OP is not a true Dhoni hater. He's just an overly obsessed tailunt lover who piles on the Dhoni-hate wagon simply out of a desire to join in with the mob. Someone should remind him that maggi noodles wouldn't have an ODI career today if not for India's greatest ODI captain ever Sidhoni, Shunya and Laaloo 1 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Why are you wasting your time and giving straight answers to those sachin bhakts.. YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. Stop wasting your time. Do you expect serious answer from them? Peddlers of fake news must not be allowed to drown ICF with their biased propaganda. Satyam eva Jayate. Rasgulla and Shunya 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, maniac said: No it was a collective failure agreed...so you are showing one collective failure a big one at that to say that Dhoni is not a problem??? I know you have a reading problem. So I will suggest you read my post slowly. Before attributing false statements to me. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, maniac said: And still has a better s/r than Dhoni??? so wait if Rohit or Kohli kept going you would say they should hit out and not slow the momentum and if they get out and the next guy does tuk tuk you say he is consolidating lol. Dhoni adds nothing anymore....if he wants to be a consolidator bat him at 3...but he is too scared for that. 6-7 is not a position for someone who consolidates,if he gets out hitting out in any situation then too bad or if he can consolidate in a back to wall situation it's a bonus but 6-7 should be a power hitter....PERIOD Dhoni is done Talking about stats- Year Mat Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R Ca St 2004 3 3 1 0 0 1 12 19 9.50 135.71 4 2 2005 27 24 6 2 3 1 183* 895 49.72 103.11 19 6 2006 29 26 6 0 7 0 96 821 41.05 92.98 33 3 2007 37 33 8 1 7 3 139* 1103 44.12 89.60 31 18 2008 29 26 7 1 8 0 109* 1097 57.74 82.30 38 11 2009 29 24 7 2 9 0 124 1198 70.47 85.57 26 11 2010 18 17 4 1 3 1 101* 600 46.15 78.95 19 4 2011 24 22 9 0 6 0 91* 764 58.77 89.88 17 6 2012 16 14 6 1 3 0 113* 524 65.50 87.63 12 5 2013 26 20 8 1 5 1 139* 753 62.75 96.05 21 13 2014 12 10 2 0 5 0 79* 418 52.25 92.07 7 6 2015 20 17 3 0 4 0 92* 640 45.71 86.84 27 3 2016 13 10 0 0 1 1 80 278 27.80 80.12 13 4 2017 16 11 5 1 4 0 134 498 83.00 82.86 11 7 Overall (14) 299 257 72 10 65 8 183* 9608 51.94 88.47 278 99 Do people still want him dropped for having one poor year .......... Yes his s/r have dropped but all top players face some sought of dip in their game .... This excludes todays innnings, and he has made runs today as Well among his 11 innings one game in West indies washed out one game in West indies were overs got finished One game he lost for he deserves criticism ....... So basically in among 9 games He played a huge role in winning the game 4 times and in one game against SL in CT he did well which means performed 5 out of 9 games...... No one is saying he is batting at top, but if someone dip is still that ill happily take that . U knw when people are in bad form or done n dusted how their stats look. velu and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: No OP is not a true Dhoni hater. He's just an overly obsessed tailunt lover who piles on the Dhoni-hate wagon simply out of a desire to join in with the mob. Someone should remind him that maggi noodles wouldn't have an ODI career today if not for India's greatest ODI captain ever When it gets to Rohit he is just a troll. He is real sachin Bhakt who keeps hating on Dhoni that's it. Nikola 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Looks like there will be some usual deflecting the issue and attacking posters personally or criticizing other players past and present,domestic and international or failures of others to as the torture that Dhoni has become. where have we seen this before...hmmm right here many many times Link to comment
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