Can Krunal Pandya bat at #6 in the ODI team?

[renjith]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

In ODIs and T20s, who a good batsman is depends on the batting position ( requirements of that batting position ).

 

Batters coming in at No.6 and No.7, should have the ability to hit from ball one, should be able to hit big 6s and play at a high SR.  Classical batters are often not good enough for this role.

 

Krunal would be an ideal No. 6 or No. 7 in both ODIs and T20s 

will be useful if he comes in at 250 for 4 and 5 overs to go. but can he succeed coming in at 60 for 4 and 35 overs to go?

 

will be useful if we are defending 330. but can he succeed if we are defending 240?

 

normally bits and pieces players succeed in easy match situations and fail in difficult situations.

[PSB_Zone]

On 25/09/2017 at 11:55 AM, Pollack said:

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli

K L Rahul

R Pant

H pandya

K Pandya

Kuldeep

Chahal/Boooby/Siraj (depends on pitch)

Bumrah

Shami/ Siraj (if Shami injured)/ boooby.

 

A brutal team for any conditions.

Yes a perfect x1 for all condition..bhuvi is a must though coz when we play 6 bowlers we will need some one who can bat from one of the pacers.. 

Rahul/pant/hardik/krunal/bhuvi

 

Right left combination all the way down for finishing roles and what fire power.. If rahul struggles at 4 and we need experince to guide pant and pandya brothers, there is a case of kohli to play at 4 and rahul at 3 just for the world cup. For one series only coz kohli is greatest at 3. We should not fix what aint broken

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, renjith said:

will be useful if he comes in at 250 for 4 and 5 overs to go. but can he succeed coming in at 60 for 4 and 35 overs to go?

 

will be useful if we are defending 330. but can he succeed if we are defending 240?

 

normally bits and pieces players succeed in easy match situations and fail in difficult situations.

 

Krunal Pandya bats in the top 4 for his state side .... has a List A batting average of 35 and IPL batting  average of 34.

 

His ability to stay at the crease, when needed, may not be bad.  Further, the No.7 batter does not face that many crisis situations.

 

He will be the 5th / 6th bowler ..... there will be 4 other main bowlers .  Further, he is a low ER bowler where-ever he has played. That helps a lot for the 5th / 6th bowler 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, renjith said:

will be useful if he comes in at 250 for 4 and 5 overs to go. but can he succeed coming in at 60 for 4 and 35 overs to go?

 

will be useful if we are defending 330. but can he succeed if we are defending 240?

 

normally bits and pieces players succeed in easy match situations and fail in difficult situations.

he is not bits and pieces. He is a batsman and his bowling was very good in last IPL. 

[renjith]

13 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Krunal Pandya bats in the top 4 for his state side .... has a List A batting average of 35 and IPL batting  average of 34.

 

His ability to stay at the crease, when needed, may not be bad.  Further, the No.7 batter does not face that many crisis situations.

 

He will be the 5th / 6th bowler ..... there will be 4 other main bowlers .  Further, he is a low ER bowler where-ever he has played. That helps a lot for the 5th / 6th bowler 

considering someone as a no 7 batsman and no 6 bowler itself shows that player is weak. list A avg of 35 is not bad though. as I said t20 he is a good choice. but odi doubtful.

[Silva]

I wonder after how well it went last match if they persist with Axar at number 7. If so you can see him Krunal fighting for that spot in the future. Axar is probably the  more dependable bowler and Krunal is the better batsman. 

[renjith]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

he is not bits and pieces. He is a batsman and his bowling was very good in last IPL. 

yes he bats at 4 for his state. but is he good enough to be the 5th batsmen or the 5th bowler for india is the question.

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, renjith said:

yes he bats at 4 for his state. but is he good enough to be the 5th batsmen or the 5th bowler for india is the question.

he will bat at 6 or 7 and not 5. We don't want him to bat at 5. We want  him to bat 6 and bat aggressively. if both hardik and Krunal plays, we will have two 5th bowlers. Teams these do need 6 bowlers not just just 5. Bowlers will always have bad days.

[renjith]

14 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

he will bat at 6 or 7 and not 5. We don't want him to bat at 5. We want  him to bat 6 and bat aggressively. if both hardik and Krunal plays, we will have two 5th bowlers. Teams these do need 6 bowlers not just just 5. Bowlers will always have bad days.

we can't have him as the 6th batsman and the 6th bowler at the same time rite? if he is 6th batsman, he has to be the 5th bowler rite? I don't think he is good enough to complete 10 overs in all matches. already our bowling is weak coz of hardik. we can't have one more weak bowler. if hardik plays as a genuene batsman, then our batting becomes weak.

Edited November 3, 2017 by renjith

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, renjith said:

we can't have him as the 6th batsman and the 6th bowler at the same time rite? if he is 6th batsman, he has to be the 5th bowler rite? I don't think he is good enough to complete 10 overs in all matches. already our bowling is weak coz of hardik. we can't have one more weak bowler. if hardik plays as a genuene batsman, then our batting becomes weak.

He is a better bowler than Pandya because of the conditions we play at home. He was very good in IPL and bowled as good as any spinner. Both Pandya's will play as 5th and 6th bowler and not 4th and 5th and i don't see any problem in that. Right now, there is only Panyda as a 5th bowler and then Kedar is used as 6th bowler. Krunal is certainly better than Kedar. Hardik and Krunal both are genuine batsmen.  We are already playing karthik, Manish and kedar as batsmen who have not been great. Hardik has been more reliable than them.

[renjith]

29 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is a better bowler than Pandya because of the conditions we play at home. He was very good in IPL and bowled as good as any spinner. Both Pandya's will play as 5th and 6th bowler and not 4th and 5th and i don't see any problem in that. Right now, there is only Panyda as a 5th bowler and then Kedar is used as 6th bowler. Krunal is certainly better than Kedar. Hardik and Krunal both are genuine batsmen.  We are already playing karthik, Manish and kedar as batsmen who have not been great. Hardik has been more reliable than them.

got the combination u r suggesting. imo that is weakening both batting and bowling for the sake of including 2 allrounders.

[jusarrived]

Dont rate him much , especially his batting is very overrated . Decent bowler who can bat a bit .

[rkt.india]

30 minutes ago, renjith said:

got the combination u r suggesting. imo that is weakening both batting and bowling for the sake of including 2 allrounders.

Not that is not weakening anything. Because both can play even as specialist bat in the team. Our 5th bowler has always been a weak link but now you will have two genuine options as 5th bowler and can be used according to the conditions.

[jusarrived]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

he is not bits and pieces. He is a batsman and his bowling was very good in last IPL. 

Hes not a batsmen . A no8 at best 

[rkt.india]

Just now, jusarrived said:

Dont rate him much , especially his batting is very overrated . Decent bowler who can bat a bit 

you don't even rate rohit sharma.

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, jusarrived said:

Hes not a batsmen . A no8 at best 

That's your preconceived bias. Last two IPLs have shown how good a batsman he is.

[jusarrived]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

That's your preconceived bias. Last two IPLs have shown how good a batsman he is.

IPL only shows that you can do well against mediocre bowlers , which is fine ..am saying hes not good enough to do well against quality bowlers . I dont rate batsmen who play cross batted shots.

[jusarrived]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

you don't even rate rohit sharma.

Yup I dont , you will agree with me when he will cost us another ICC tournament . May be !!

And if you dig up posts from the first IPL hardik played , you will see I was arguing he was the biggest hitter in domestic and he will be a star .

So I have nothing against the Pandyas , its just that I liked what I saw of only one of the brothers . 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, jusarrived said:

IPL only shows that you can do well against mediocre bowlers , which is fine ..am saying hes not good enough to do well against quality bowlers . I dont rate batsmen who play cross batted shots.

which batsman does not play cross-batted shots?

[Laaloo]

Definitely.

 

Put him at 6

Put Bhuvi at 7

Put Dhoni at 8

If you play Shami, put him at 8 and put Dhoni at 9.