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First, let's be clear that this is not a movie review thread but to discuss which movies and shows look great on 4K HDR (picture and sound quality) :dance:

 

In 4K HDR blue rays, Planet Earth 2 looks absolutely brilliant on screen :shock:  .... Logan looks good too

 

I have heard nice things about 4k HDR versions of John Wick, Lucy, The Revenant, etc. 

 

PS

https://www.cnet.com/pictures/best-4k-blu-rays/

 

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16 hours ago, dial_100 said:

Is it out on NF yet or Hulu or Amazon? I bought the whole 1st season but it was not HD. 

 

I guess you are referring to Planet Earth. I have noticed it on Netflix. Not sure about the availability of PE 2 on streaming channels

 

I have Planet Earth 2 on 4K HDR and it looks absolutely stunning. HDR, especially if it is used properly by the film-makers, is the way to go 

 

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41 minutes ago, dial_100 said:

yes I meant PE1. It was stunning good. I watched it on my home theater and boy that was such an experience.

 

Where did you get PE 2?

 

 

At Bestbuy Canada

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Any IMAX movie would do. The Dark Knight is the master of it, largely due to the fact that the CGI is very minimal. That's the reason why Interstellar looks a bit off. Remember the truck flip scene? Instead of cg or miniature, he really flipped the truck. 

Ironically, some critics told that 'cg' looked unrealistic. 

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Current open source common standard is HDR 10. Appears as if to support HDR 10+, the equipment should have the new HDMI 2.1, which would largely be on 2018 models .... Software upgrades would restrict HDR 10+ content on current equipment with HDMI 2.0a/b to streaming services only (and not from UHD 4K HDR player to 4K HDR TV)

 

Most 2016 and 2017 devices would have HDMI 2.0a or 2.0b (unless of course somehow the HDMI hardware can be upgraded to HDMI 2.1 via software upgrade) 

 

Btw, HDR 10+ is expected to be the open source equivalent of Dolby Vision, the best standard of HDR currently as it uses dynamic metadata

 

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From Samsung:

 

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HDR10+ INFORMATION:

Here are the facts, confirmed via email from the product development director and the two leading engineers at Samsung:

There is no upgrade path for HDR10+ (AKA, "dynamic HDR 10") available ahead of the hardware update to HDMI 2.1 which is required to support HDR10+ from UHD Blu-Ray discs. 

Model year 2016 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0a inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.

Model year 2017 Samsung HDR TVs can now support HDR10+ via streaming only; their HDMI 2.0b inputs will only support HDR10 from UHD Blu-Ray discs.

Model year 2018 Samsung HDR TVs will support HDR10+ via streaming as well as on their HDMI 2.1 inputs.

 

Current status:

 

hdrformatsupportsept2017.jpg

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Appears as if not many are in to UHD and HDR yet. Will wrap the thread with some of the best UHD / HDR presentations that I own or watched this year:

 

  • Planet Earth 2 
  • Dunkirk (mind blowing PQ. It is like looking out of the window in to a new world :shocked: .... a reference disc .... Sadly had to return the disc as it made too much spinning noise. May get another one)
  • Logan
  • John Wick 2 
  • War on Planet of Apes (you can count the hair on apes furs) 
  • Assassin's Creed

 

Honorable mention

  • Bridge on River Kwai (Not much an upgrade over Blue Ray. You can see a lot of film grain too but if you want to enjoy the exceptional film, UHD is the best)

 

Others

  • Ice Age Collision Course- Ok transfer but animation always looks good
  • Wonder Woman - Ok transfer (Colors pop. Has some film grain though which some folks may not prefer) 

 

Rented (Sharp copies)

  • Lucy
  • Lego Batman
  • Despicable Me 3

 

Holiday Season is coming :yay:

 

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4 minutes ago, zen said:

Appears as if not many are in to UHD and HDR yet. Will wrap the thread with some of the best UHD / HDR presentations that I own or watched this year:

 

  • Planet Earth 2 
  • Dunkirk (mind blowing PQ. It is like looking out of the window in to a new world :shocked: .... Sadly had to return the disc as it made too much spinning noise. May get another one)
  • Logan
  • John Wick 2 
  • War on Planet of Apes (you can count the hair on apes furs) 
  • Wonder Woman (Colors pop. Has some film grain though which some folks may not prefer) 

 

Honorable mention

  • Bridge on River Kwai (Not much an upgrade over Blue Ray. You can see a lot of film grain too but if you want to enjoy the exceptional film, UHD is the best)

 

Others

  • Assassins Creed - OK transfer 
  • Ice Age - Ok transfer but animation always looks good

 

Rented (Sharp copies)

  • Lucy
  • Lego Batman
  • Despicable Me 3

 

Holiday Season is coming :yay:

 

Logan's landscapes (inspired from "shane") must be spectacular in UHD as must Gal Gadot in WW.

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2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Logan's landscapes (inspired from "shane") must be spectacular in UHD as must Gal Gadot in WW.

Relatively speaking, more than UHD (4K), it is the HDR (High Dynamic Range) which is a part of 4K discs that makes the difference 

 

Dunkirk's PQ is absolutely phenomenal 

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Some more recommended titles in 4k HDR:

 

  • Blue Planet 2 
  • Coco 
  • The Shape of Water 

 

 

"Gotham by Gaslight" (Steampunk genre, which I like).  While the quality of animation is basic, the 4K version gives the movie a premium feel vs the standard blue ray.  With the 4K, you also get the benefit of HDR (High Dynamic Range) which adds to the viewing experience. Blacks are inky and with dark scenes benefiting from the HDR. Color palette is expanded so the picture appears relatively different .... In comparison, on the blue ray the picture is brighter and warmer may be to compensate for the lack of HDR on the regular blue ray .... Could see the benefits of 4K HDR even on this type of animation 

 

 

 

 

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Inception - Very good transfer. Some shots can be soft due to Nolan's style for close ups 

Braveheart - Very good transfer esp for an old title. Some parts are soft though due to the source. HDR is impressive 

Gladiator - Very good transfer. NR makes indoor shots relatively soft at times

MI 4 - Brilliant transfer esp. the parts shot for IMAX . If the whole movie was like that this 4k disc would be reference quality

Kong Skull Island - Excellent transfer 

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On 9/10/2017 at 7:59 AM, zen said:

More positive reviews for PE 2 4K HDR blue ray disc:

 

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/planet-earth-2-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-review-opinion-2948946

 

 

Biggest problem with 4k movies is the lack of rental facilities of the discs. That will give you the best PQ and lossless Audio. The streaming 4k is pretty good on YT, Prime Video and Netflix, but audio is limited to age old 5.1 for most cases. I wish there was a good rental availability for 4k movie discs like Netflix or Redbox.

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20 minutes ago, dandaroy said:

Biggest problem with 4k movies is the lack of rental facilities of the discs. That will give you the best PQ and lossless Audio. The streaming 4k is pretty good on YT, Prime Video and Netflix, but audio is limited to age old 5.1 for most cases. I wish there was a good rental availability for 4k movie discs like Netflix or Redbox.

Try Apple TV 4k. ITunes offers 4k in  HDR / Dolby Vision. I don’t have it yet but have heard good things about the quality .... Apple TV 4k supports Dolby Atmos audio too iirc 

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On 7/23/2018 at 3:52 PM, cric_fan said:

4K blurays are over priced. I usually wait until they have dropped in price before even thinking about purchasing.

In Canada, popular films range from $23 to $35 (+ tax) per movie .... Sometimes, they fall to $20 on sale but the price eventually rises to $25 range 

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Added two more movies to my 4K collection:

  • Bram Stoker's Dracula
  • The Fifth Element 

 

Both of these movies are available on Netflix. Dracula is available in 4k without HDR on Netflix. I was not sure how much additional value the HDR on the 4K disc would bring. Also the film is from early 90s so it is not expected to be tack sharp like the latest movies shot on digital. Film Grain is supposed to get more pronounced and it was on the 4k version on the Netflix .... 4K disc reviews of this film were mixed too 

 

Boy, am I surprised. Though the film is not tack sharp, HDR has opened up the color palet. Dracula's red rob appears slightly different. On Netflix 4K it is more bright red and shiny. On the 4K HDR disc it appears a little muted and more natural. The blue inferno now appears tealish .... Also in many of the dark scenes, you are now able to see new details .... There is also a sepia tone to the disk, which gives it that "reading an old book" feel .... What the HDR is probably doing in this movie is extending the color palet and also making the colors more natural with the bright colors popping out when required .... there are nuances that separates it from the Netflix 4k version for those who can appreciate the differences .... Film grain is handled better on the disc than on the Netflix version .... On the 4K disc, some of the scenes also have a comic book feel to it which I like because of how the film is presented .... I was not expecting this to look too different from the Netflix 4k version, but I am happy to see HDR, along with the sepia tone, coming in to play here to give the film slightly different in feel .... This will probably become one of my favorite 4k disc because of the HDR implementation and how the film grain is handled even though it is not tack sharp overall 

 

On the 5th element disc after the initial quick check -> I am seeing the colors pop out, there is sharpness and depth to many of the scenes 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The most mesmerizing film I had seen was the Rocky Mountain Express. I saw it at the IMAX screen at the Royal BC museum. Give the film a try, you might like it. 

 

There were some others at the Kennedy space center related to the ISS & Hubble, those type of films can look really good as well on high resolution.

 

Jawani ke din :((

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I changed my HDMI cable to this and also changed setting so am seeing (or perceiving) better results

 

 

In no particular order, ignoring documentaries and animated films in my collection, below are some of the top transfers: 

  • Darkest Hour (Reference quality. Beautifully shot film) 
  • Mission Impossible 4 (IMAX scenes are reference) 
  • Murder on Orient Express (Beautifully shot film. Most of the film is sharp. HDR is good)
  • The Patriot (Reference quality for an old title) 
  • John Wick 2 (Sharp and HDR shines) 

 

Other great to good transfers: 

  • Assassins' Creed 
  • War for planet of apes 
  • Shape of Water (Beautifully shot film) 
  • Kong Skull Island (Another good looking film. Because of different cameras used, some of the scenes can be soft but it is not a big deal)
  • Logan (Some of the scenes can be soft but again it is not a big deal. UHD is still the best way to enjoy this film)

 

Older titles which got a new life:

  • Inception
  • Gladiator
  • Braveheart
  • The Fifth Element (Most of the scenes are sharp. CGI scenes, because of their nature, are ok)
  • Bram Stoker's Dracula (Not too sharp but HDR is good esp. considering that most parts of the film are shot in a dark environment and the vibrant colors in the film. A beautifully shot film. Some scenes have a comic book feel to them. Overall, this is one of my favorite transfers) 

 

Ok to Avg transfers:

  • Bridge on River Kwai (Good transfer esp. considering it is an old film (1950s).  HDR is good. Lots of grain though. Beautifully shot film) 
  • Wonder Woman (OK transfer. HDR is good. Usually not 4K sharp. Could have done a better job) 

 

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