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5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

It can become best with those bowlers, but India is still missing wicket takers with new ball.

Bhuvi is supposed to do that but unfortunately he has been inconsistent in that regard.But Bhuvi-Bumrah pair is the best we have got and inclusion of any other seamer like Shami destroys the balance of the side.

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1 hour ago, SK_IH said:

Bhuvi is supposed to do that but unfortunately he has been inconsistent in that regard.But Bhuvi-Bumrah pair is the best we have got and inclusion of any other seamer like Shami destroys the balance of the side.

Shami-bumrah-Hardik triad is more balanced than Bhuvi-Bumrah-Hardik.

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Wont go into the no 1 debate but If u look at the bench strength,  no other team has such luxury.  We have so many options now.  See how Australians are struggling without starc, hazelwood who plays very few short format games due to injuries.

If every team can play their top bowlers in every match things will be a lot different. And we won't be the best.

At the moment india with so many options have a bright future.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Gollum said:

For modern day pitches I would place Australia, SA and Pakistan above India. We are comfortably better than Lanka, WI, Eng, BD and marginally ahead of NZ atm. So overall 4th which is better than at any point in our ODI history since may be 2003 WC. 

australia have the bestt fast bowling attack,if ever they are fit that is,and nothing in spin department.(odis)

SA is better right now ,but pakistan??

No way ,Amir is a wicket less wonder himself most days though a great bowler on his day,Hassan needs reverse to do any damage and i am not convinced he can do damage without it.Didn't impress me in the match he played against us one bit .Junaid is hardly someone you would fret ,less said about wahab the better and rumaan raees and others they have shown on International stage are grade A trundlers .

Imad is a poor man's jadeja,shadab has potential but at this stage both kuldeep and chahal are better based on bowling.

 

India is easily up there in the top 3,especially if Bhuvi can continue taking wickets,up front.

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It is definitely way better than Pakistan. I think only Australia can challenge us, but do they have such spinners like India has? This considering that Shami, Umesh, Ishant are still not in the team. Or for that matter, Varun Aaron. We still have atleast 3 bowlers yet to make debut who promise to be world class and have genuine pace.

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11 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

lulz at SA ahaed of india,ya phelukwayo, parnell etc are better than ind bowlers :giggle:

Tahir is a major factor,but with chahal and kuldeep coming good we will be better,still need to see if they can keep performing,so not going to conclude anything.

 

Also SA's best bowlers are rabada,morkel,Chriss morris,tahir and not phelukwayo,parnell.:giggle:

Top 3 is India,SA,Australia in no order.

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10 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

Tahir is a major factor,but with chahal and kuldeep coming good we will be better,still need to see if they can keep performing,so not going to conclude anything.

 

Also SA's best bowlers are rabada,morkel,Chriss morris,tahir and not phelukwayo,parnell.:giggle:

Top 3 is India,SA,Australia in no order.

well phelukwayo and parnell play regulalry for them while Morkel sits out :giggle:

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Just now, SK_IH said:

well phelukwayo and parnell play regulalry for them while Morkel sits out :giggle:

Thier best attack is morkel,morris,rabada,tahir though.So,Maybe they are experimenting.

parnell is a joke and its funny how he still gets chances.

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8 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

Thier best attack is morkel,morris,rabada,tahir though.So,Maybe they are experimenting.

parnell is a joke and its funny how he still gets chances.

they also play that trundler all rounder pretorious but yeah attack of morris,rabada and tahir is good 

 

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Australia's bowling is excellent for Australia pitches, they have been so dominant on their home turf, even more so than India in India

 

India ODI team is good but not dominant. Even the current Aus crush their opponents in Australia

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45 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Rabada is good, but I still dont rate him so high as to put in a world beater category. I would be inclined to say some of our bowlers are close to him. Shami is definitely way better.

I didn't say he is  better ,he is good thats all.

Shami is better than most bowlers expect maybe staarc on full song.

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Rabada is good, but I still dont rate him so high as to put in a world beater category. I would be inclined to say some of our bowlers are close to him. Shami is definitely way better.
You got to be kidding me a 6'4" bowler with pace around mid 140's to early 150 kph and ability to swing it both ways has a exceptionally good Yorker, bouncer and slower ball not to forget the consistency in his bowling ,he is very good.

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Bhuvi + Shami + Bumrah + kuldeep + hardik now if We are able to get Krunal n shankar as 6th bowler and they perform with both bat and ball not only this wud be bloody good all round bowling attack but our team would become really balanced as well . 

Its that 6th bowler which we have to cover. Coz team will look to target 5th n 6th bowler which can put our attack in trouble 

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44 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

You got to be kidding me a 6'4" bowler with pace around mid 140's to early 150 kph and ability to swing it both ways has a exceptionally good Yorker, bouncer and slower ball not to forget the consistency in his bowling ,he is very good.

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He might well be bowling in 150's, but I only believe what I see. whenever I have seen him bowl, he has been bowling in mid to high 130's. I never said that he isn't good. I said he is not a world beater, which he isnt in my book. All those deliveries that you are talking as if he is the only bowler in the world to have mastered, our own Bumrah and Bhuvi do, at similar pace and on Indian dead wickets!

 

Not that it means anything at this point, but Bumrah has 42 wickets in 23 matches at an avg of 21.78, with an economy of 4.7 ; while Rabada has 65 wickets in 40 matches at an avg of 26.3 with an econ of 5.1 ( in conditions which predominantly favour bowlers ).

 

And to answer your point clearly, I am happy with an Indian Bumrah. Wouldnt want to trade him with Rabada.

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32 minutes ago, the don said:

The spinners look decent but a pace attack with 2 of the 3 bowlers bring bhuvaneshwar kumar and hardik pandya is hardly world class . 

 

Hardik Pandya is a pacer-all-rounder and not a specialist pacer.

 

If you compare his ODI bowling with the  pacer-all-rounders of other teams, he is one of the better ones.

 

 

Bhuvi brings to the table 3 important ODI qualities 

  1. Dependable death bowling
  2. Low ER
  3. Picking wickets whenever there is any swing on offer

Yes... he does not get many wickets on flat decks, that is true.

 

 

Shami has 91 wickets from only 47 ODIs with an average of 23. He can take wickets on any tracks and has genuine pace.  As of now, he is being used as a test specialist ( has played 13 tests in the last 14 months )   .... but he is in the squad and will play as the 3rd specialist quick in away ODIs . That makes our attack really good.

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18 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

He might well be bowling in 150's, but I only believe what I see. whenever I have seen him bowl, he has been bowling in mid to high 130's.

 

Yes .... Rabada has made his name by bowling a couple of 150 k balls here and there

 

But, mostly, he is seen bowling 135 k to 147 k ..... and lots 135 k to 140 k balls in tests like you are saying.

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23 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Hardik Pandya is a pacer-all-rounder and not a specialist pacer.

 

If you compare his ODI bowling with the  pacer-all-rounders of other teams, he is one of the better ones.

 

 

Bhuvi brings to the table 3 important ODI qualities 

  1. Dependable death bowling
  2. Low ER
  3. Picking wickets whenever there is any swing on offer

Yes... he does not get many wickets on flat decks, that is true.

 

 

Shami has 91 wickets from only 47 ODIs with an average of 23. He can take wickets on any tracks and has genuine pace.  As of now, he is being used as a test specialist ( has played 13 tests in the last 14 months )   .... but he is in the squad and will play as the 3rd specialist quick in away ODIs . That makes our attack really good.

That's the issue . 

Hardik pandya has potential as a bowler but is he a 3rd seamer . Or can he play that role long term . Bhuveneshwar flatters to deceive . Shami should be in the playing 11 . Its a good attack but hardly the best . The world cup will be a good test after the champions trophy .

Will be interesting to see how the new set of spinners tour away .

 

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59 minutes ago, the don said:

That's the issue . 

Hardik pandya has potential as a bowler but is he a 3rd seamer . Or can he play that role long term . Bhuveneshwar flatters to deceive . Shami should be in the playing 11 . Its a good attack but hardly the best . The world cup will be a good test after the champions trophy .

Will be interesting to see how the new set of spinners tour away .

 

A) Pandya, in the shorter version of the game, if playing abroad surely has the potential to be more than just a 3rd seamer. He has pace, he has guile, can bounce.  B) You are seriously underrating Bhuvi. He no more bowls in 130's. He is more on the faster side of ' fast medium' which is a huge leap.

C) Unlike some, we are not obsessed about who's best who's not. Its a pretty good attack, and as a team they will be formidable. And I am talking without adding Shami and Umesh to it. 

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I believe with 5 spinners and 6 to 7 pace bowlers India has the most depth in bowling attack. Only thing missing is a front line pace bowler but the Umesh/Shami/Bhuvi/Bumrah/Ishant is more depth than any other nation. Throw in Nadeem and there are atleast 7 good spinners India has.

There is no comparison.

 

Stop the infatuation with SA. They are not that good.

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3 hours ago, Khota said:

I believe with 5 spinners and 6 to 7 pace bowlers India has the most depth in bowling attack. Only thing missing is a front line pace bowler but the Umesh/Shami/Bhuvi/Bumrah/Ishant is more depth than any other nation. Throw in Nadeem and there are atleast 7 good spinners India has.

There is no comparison.

 

Stop the infatuation with SA. They are not that good.

Ishant Sharma.......:afraid:

This thread is about ODI cricket 

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He might well be bowling in 150's, but I only believe what I see. whenever I have seen him bowl, he has been bowling in mid to high 130's. I never said that he isn't good. I said he is not a world beater, which he isnt in my book. All those deliveries that you are talking as if he is the only bowler in the world to have mastered, our own Bumrah and Bhuvi do, at similar pace and on Indian dead wickets!

 

Not that it means anything at this point, but Bumrah has 42 wickets in 23 matches at an avg of 21.78, with an economy of 4.7 ; while Rabada has 65 wickets in 40 matches at an avg of 26.3 with an econ of 5.1 ( in conditions which predominantly favour bowlers ).

 

And to answer your point clearly, I am happy with an Indian Bumrah. Wouldnt want to trade him with Rabada.

Nah i'am not saying he is world beater but merely countering ur point ,that we have got guys who are very close to him, and by the way,their is method to his madness, he usually bowls high 130's to mid 140's against top order to concentrate more on line and length slipping odd quick delivery and uses his variations during middle over bowls full throttle during fag end, bumrah is good at what he does, but he needs to add few more tricks as far as new ball is concerned,that is where zak would have been handy.

 

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Top 9 teams vs other top 9 teams over the last 2 years

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 23 2015-2017 37 209 1582.1 55 8617 270 7/45 31.91 5.44 35.1 10 1 investigate this query
Australia 32 2016-2017 40 233 1817.4 56 9942 305 6/45 32.59 5.46 35.7 6 4 investigate this query
New Zealand 29 2015-2017 33 190 1407.4 43 7624 227 6/33 33.58 5.41 37.2 3 2 investigate this query
India 32 2015-2017 35 202 1565.2 42 8494 243 5/18 34.95 5.42 38.6 3 3 investigate this query
England 24 2015-2017 37 209 1654.4 58 9123 255 5/51 35.77 5.51 38.9 15 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 33 2015-2017 27 166 1260.5 28 6917 176 5/38 39.30 5.48 42.9 2 2 investigate this query
West Indies 32 2015-2017 28 171 1196.4 33 6594 153 6/27 43.09 5.51 46.9 2 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 19 2016-2017 15 96 679.5 15 3818 87 4/29 43.88 5.61 46.8 2 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 43 2015-2017 36 219 1400.2 32 8307 179 6/54 46.40 5.93 46.9 2 1

 

We seem to be 4th in bowling average, 2nd in economy rate, and 4th in bowling strike rate.

 

Pacers only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
Australia 20 2016-2017 40 164 1409.2 51 7634 249 6/45 30.65 5.41 33.9 6 4 investigate this query
South Africa 12 2015-2017 37 141 1105.1 41 6088 191 4/31 31.87 5.50 34.7 9 0 investigate this query
Pakistan 12 2015-2017 27 85 720.4 22 4033 124 5/38 32.52 5.59 34.8 1 2 investigate this query
New Zealand 17 2015-2017 33 131 991.1 36 5562 169 6/33 32.91 5.61 35.1 3 2 investigate this query
England 15 2015-2017 37 138 1099.1 52 6137 183 5/51 33.53 5.58 36.0 12 1 investigate this query
India 16 2015-2017 35 109 856.1 29 4895 139 5/27 35.21 5.71 36.9 3 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 7 2016-2017 15 49 409.2 12 2287 61 4/29 37.49 5.58 40.2 2 0 investigate this query
West Indies 13 2015-2017 28 101 683.2 23 4048 102 5/27 39.68 5.92 40.1 1 1 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 17 2015-2017 36 118 776.5 22 4774 107 4/37 44.61 6.14 43.5 1 0

 

We're 6th in average, 7th in economy rate, and 6th in strike rate

Spinners only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 9 2015-2017 37 68 477.0 14 2529 79 7/45 32.01 5.30 36.2 1 1 investigate this query
India 14 2015-2017 35 93 709.1 13 3599 104 5/18 34.60 5.07 40.9 0 1 investigate this query
New Zealand 9 2015-2017 33 59 416.3 7 2062 58 3/22 35.55 4.95 43.0 0 0 investigate this query
Australia 11 2016-2017 40 69 408.2 5 2308 56 3/16 41.21 5.65 43.7 0 0 investigate this query
England 6 2015-2017 37 71 555.3 6 2986 72 4/41 41.47 5.37 46.2 3 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 21 2015-2017 36 99 620.1 10 3505 72 6/54 48.68 5.65 51.6 1 1 investigate this query
West Indies 12 2015-2017 28 66 507.5 10 2508 51 6/27 49.17 4.93 59.7 1 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 16 2015-2017 27 81 540.1 6 2884 52 4/42 55.46 5.33 62.3 1 0 investigate this query
Bangladesh 8 2016-2017 15 47 270.3 3 1531 26 3/13 58.88 5.65 62.4 0 0

 

We're 2nd in average, 3rd in economy rate, and 2nd in strike rate

 

It seems like we need to still improve our pace bowling.

 

 

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Need a 3rd pacer imo. Umesh is unreliable and kohli never picks shami for some reason. They will be exposed on non turning pitches like what hapoenend in the ct. Need to give siraj or kaul a try who are performing in every domestic competition like bumrah was before he got picked in the squad

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1 hour ago, mancalledsting said:

Aus could field Hazelwood, Starc, Cummins and Coulternile all in the same team. Our attack has potential though. 

They can also field pattinson,cummins ,staarc,hazlewood,coulter nile .......but only in their wet dreams.:giggle:

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On 9/22/2017 at 12:50 PM, chewy said:

Australia's bowling is excellent for Australia pitches, they have been so dominant on their home turf, even more so than India in India

 

India ODI team is good but not dominant. Even the current Aus crush their opponents in Australia

Australia has been crushed in the last two odis in my opinion .

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3 hours ago, Tibarn said:

Top 9 teams vs other top 9 teams over the last 2 years

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 23 2015-2017 37 209 1582.1 55 8617 270 7/45 31.91 5.44 35.1 10 1 investigate this query
Australia 32 2016-2017 40 233 1817.4 56 9942 305 6/45 32.59 5.46 35.7 6 4 investigate this query
New Zealand 29 2015-2017 33 190 1407.4 43 7624 227 6/33 33.58 5.41 37.2 3 2 investigate this query
India 32 2015-2017 35 202 1565.2 42 8494 243 5/18 34.95 5.42 38.6 3 3 investigate this query
England 24 2015-2017 37 209 1654.4 58 9123 255 5/51 35.77 5.51 38.9 15 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 33 2015-2017 27 166 1260.5 28 6917 176 5/38 39.30 5.48 42.9 2 2 investigate this query
West Indies 32 2015-2017 28 171 1196.4 33 6594 153 6/27 43.09 5.51 46.9 2 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 19 2016-2017 15 96 679.5 15 3818 87 4/29 43.88 5.61 46.8 2 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 43 2015-2017 36 219 1400.2 32 8307 179 6/54 46.40 5.93 46.9 2 1

 

We seem to be 4th in bowling average, 2nd in economy rate, and 4th in bowling strike rate.

 

Pacers only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
Australia 20 2016-2017 40 164 1409.2 51 7634 249 6/45 30.65 5.41 33.9 6 4 investigate this query
South Africa 12 2015-2017 37 141 1105.1 41 6088 191 4/31 31.87 5.50 34.7 9 0 investigate this query
Pakistan 12 2015-2017 27 85 720.4 22 4033 124 5/38 32.52 5.59 34.8 1 2 investigate this query
New Zealand 17 2015-2017 33 131 991.1 36 5562 169 6/33 32.91 5.61 35.1 3 2 investigate this query
England 15 2015-2017 37 138 1099.1 52 6137 183 5/51 33.53 5.58 36.0 12 1 investigate this query
India 16 2015-2017 35 109 856.1 29 4895 139 5/27 35.21 5.71 36.9 3 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 7 2016-2017 15 49 409.2 12 2287 61 4/29 37.49 5.58 40.2 2 0 investigate this query
West Indies 13 2015-2017 28 101 683.2 23 4048 102 5/27 39.68 5.92 40.1 1 1 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 17 2015-2017 36 118 776.5 22 4774 107 4/37 44.61 6.14 43.5 1 0

 

We're 6th in average, 7th in economy rate, and 6th in strike rate

Spinners only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 9 2015-2017 37 68 477.0 14 2529 79 7/45 32.01 5.30 36.2 1 1 investigate this query
India 14 2015-2017 35 93 709.1 13 3599 104 5/18 34.60 5.07 40.9 0 1 investigate this query
New Zealand 9 2015-2017 33 59 416.3 7 2062 58 3/22 35.55 4.95 43.0 0 0 investigate this query
Australia 11 2016-2017 40 69 408.2 5 2308 56 3/16 41.21 5.65 43.7 0 0 investigate this query
England 6 2015-2017 37 71 555.3 6 2986 72 4/41 41.47 5.37 46.2 3 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 21 2015-2017 36 99 620.1 10 3505 72 6/54 48.68 5.65 51.6 1 1 investigate this query
West Indies 12 2015-2017 28 66 507.5 10 2508 51 6/27 49.17 4.93 59.7 1 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 16 2015-2017 27 81 540.1 6 2884 52 4/42 55.46 5.33 62.3 1 0 investigate this query
Bangladesh 8 2016-2017 15 47 270.3 3 1531 26 3/13 58.88 5.65 62.4 0 0

 

We're 2nd in average, 3rd in economy rate, and 2nd in strike rate

 

It seems like we need to still improve our pace bowling.

 

 

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19 hours ago, Tibarn said:

Top 9 teams vs other top 9 teams over the last 2 years

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 23 2015-2017 37 209 1582.1 55 8617 270 7/45 31.91 5.44 35.1 10 1 investigate this query
Australia 32 2016-2017 40 233 1817.4 56 9942 305 6/45 32.59 5.46 35.7 6 4 investigate this query
New Zealand 29 2015-2017 33 190 1407.4 43 7624 227 6/33 33.58 5.41 37.2 3 2 investigate this query
India 32 2015-2017 35 202 1565.2 42 8494 243 5/18 34.95 5.42 38.6 3 3 investigate this query
England 24 2015-2017 37 209 1654.4 58 9123 255 5/51 35.77 5.51 38.9 15 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 33 2015-2017 27 166 1260.5 28 6917 176 5/38 39.30 5.48 42.9 2 2 investigate this query
West Indies 32 2015-2017 28 171 1196.4 33 6594 153 6/27 43.09 5.51 46.9 2 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 19 2016-2017 15 96 679.5 15 3818 87 4/29 43.88 5.61 46.8 2 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 43 2015-2017 36 219 1400.2 32 8307 179 6/54 46.40 5.93 46.9 2 1

 

We seem to be 4th in bowling average, 2nd in economy rate, and 4th in bowling strike rate.

 

Pacers only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
Australia 20 2016-2017 40 164 1409.2 51 7634 249 6/45 30.65 5.41 33.9 6 4 investigate this query
South Africa 12 2015-2017 37 141 1105.1 41 6088 191 4/31 31.87 5.50 34.7 9 0 investigate this query
Pakistan 12 2015-2017 27 85 720.4 22 4033 124 5/38 32.52 5.59 34.8 1 2 investigate this query
New Zealand 17 2015-2017 33 131 991.1 36 5562 169 6/33 32.91 5.61 35.1 3 2 investigate this query
England 15 2015-2017 37 138 1099.1 52 6137 183 5/51 33.53 5.58 36.0 12 1 investigate this query
India 16 2015-2017 35 109 856.1 29 4895 139 5/27 35.21 5.71 36.9 3 2 investigate this query
Bangladesh 7 2016-2017 15 49 409.2 12 2287 61 4/29 37.49 5.58 40.2 2 0 investigate this query
West Indies 13 2015-2017 28 101 683.2 23 4048 102 5/27 39.68 5.92 40.1 1 1 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 17 2015-2017 36 118 776.5 22 4774 107 4/37 44.61 6.14 43.5 1 0

 

We're 6th in average, 7th in economy rate, and 6th in strike rate

Spinners only

Overall figures
Team Players Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI AveAscending Econ SR 4 5  
South Africa 9 2015-2017 37 68 477.0 14 2529 79 7/45 32.01 5.30 36.2 1 1 investigate this query
India 14 2015-2017 35 93 709.1 13 3599 104 5/18 34.60 5.07 40.9 0 1 investigate this query
New Zealand 9 2015-2017 33 59 416.3 7 2062 58 3/22 35.55 4.95 43.0 0 0 investigate this query
Australia 11 2016-2017 40 69 408.2 5 2308 56 3/16 41.21 5.65 43.7 0 0 investigate this query
England 6 2015-2017 37 71 555.3 6 2986 72 4/41 41.47 5.37 46.2 3 0 investigate this query
Sri Lanka 21 2015-2017 36 99 620.1 10 3505 72 6/54 48.68 5.65 51.6 1 1 investigate this query
West Indies 12 2015-2017 28 66 507.5 10 2508 51 6/27 49.17 4.93 59.7 1 1 investigate this query
Pakistan 16 2015-2017 27 81 540.1 6 2884 52 4/42 55.46 5.33 62.3 1 0 investigate this query
Bangladesh 8 2016-2017 15 47 270.3 3 1531 26 3/13 58.88 5.65 62.4 0 0

 

We're 2nd in average, 3rd in economy rate, and 2nd in strike rate

 

It seems like we need to still improve our pace bowling.

 

 

 

 

Our ODI bowling strength has started to pick up after the 2 wrist spinners have joined Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami and Pandya.

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4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Our ODI bowling strength has started to pick up after the 2 wrist spinners have joined Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami and Pandya.

The problem seems to be, IMO, we don't have enough spots for all the bowlers. Shami is a better wicket taker than Bhuvi, but Bhuvi is a better death bowler than Shami. Only Bumrah seems to be able to perform in both aspects. Pandya is needed as the 5th bowler and allrounder and we generally play two spinners, although maybe that will change by the WC.

 

It will be hard for the team to choose who out of Shami or Bhuvi should play I guess.

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