tweaker Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 In this thread we should monitor which young talent has made it to the senior team. We can also discuss, from the young talented players,who will be the first one to be selected in the senior side I had high hopes of Iyer,Pant making it into senior side for the T20 series against Australia express bowling and MCcricket 2 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Can Kamlesh Nagarkotti be our first express bowler, seems to have a good action, quick arm rotation, nice snap of wrist, could he be our answer to Steyn? Link to comment
Pollack Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 On 02/10/2017 at 4:13 PM, prudent_kreeda said: Another one i am keeping big hopes on is Rahul chahar . Has all the core of a fine Leg spinner in him. But I think where he is different his build and shoulder strength , looks fairly big and Strong shoulder - Shoulder strength is so imp for a leggie to dish out rippers as well as bowl with real zip. Will not give any time for batter to adjust his shots once committed. If a leggie is more side-on and has a strong pivot he need not have extra strong shoulders or wrists because the momentum of the body helps. Haven't watched Rahul. From YouTube clips he seems more front on. So is he actually faster? Link to comment
Texan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 15 hours ago, express bowling said: This is a better camera angle Thanks. Much better. If this dude is only 17, can bowl good lines and lengths at decent pace and even bat, then he needs to be fast tracked into A teams. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 10 hours ago, Pollack said: If a leggie is more side-on and has a strong pivot he need not have extra strong shoulders or wrists because the momentum of the body helps. Haven't watched Rahul. From YouTube clips he seems more front on. So is he actually faster? Yes Rahul is a quickish leggie, but also gets lots of turn n flights as well, gets dip, so not a typical fastish t20 bowler, but a great package. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Texan said: Thanks. Much better. If this dude is only 17, can bowl good lines and lengths at decent pace and even bat, then he needs to be fast tracked into A teams. What I like about Nagarkoti is that he is showing the ability to run through sides or take wickets in bunches and is a pacy bowler too. Rightarmfast and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 20 hours ago, MCcricket said: Can Kamlesh Nagarkotti be our first express bowler, Srinath 1995-97, Umesh 2012-16 and Aaron 2012-15 were express bowlers too. Average speeds very often 140 k to 145 k .... fastest almost 150 k and occasionally more. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 45 minutes ago, express bowling said: Srinath 1995-97, Umesh 2012-16 and Aaron 2012-15 were express bowlers too. Average speeds very often 140 k to 145 k .... fastest almost 150 k and occasionally more. Even in 98 - 99 , Srinath pushed himself and bowled express. He was clocked at 93mph in 99 and was clocked at 152kph in New Zealand series , in New Zealand( I think that was 98 ) Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 On 03/10/2017 at 11:47 AM, express bowling said: This is a better camera angle Is he chucking? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Is he chucking? No Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: No Looks dodgy from this angle Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 46 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Is he chucking? No .... he has a very proper and quick arm rotation Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Looks dodgy from this angle Looks like a hint of hyper-extension to me. In chucking, the bend in on the inside ..... in this case the bend is on the outside Anyway, 15 degrees is allowed Edited October 4, 2017 by express bowling MCcricket 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Looks dodgy from this angle how it is dodgy? elbow isnt bent here. might have a bit of hyper-extension. like this. cowboysfan 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, express bowling said: Looks like a hint of hyper-extension to me. In chucking, the bend in on the inside ..... in this case the bend is on the outside Anyway, 15 degrees is allowed It is surprising when people cannot see the difference in bending arm n Hyper extension which is arm bending past the straight position in the other direction, like Akhtars Edited October 4, 2017 by MCcricket express bowling 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Srinath 1995-97, Umesh 2012-16 and Aaron 2012-15 were express bowlers too. Average speeds very often 140 k to 145 k .... fastest almost 150 k and occasionally more. Aaron never played long enough, Umesh is fast but not in the express bracket, I think same about Srinath who was fast but not express. I would label a bowler express if he can bowl in test spells at 145 to 156 kph, more then a few times, only guys I count as express are Thommo, Lee, Akhtar, Tait, M Zahid could have been in that category probably. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, MCcricket said: Aaron never played long enough, Umesh is fast but not in the express bracket, I think same about Srinath who was fast but not express. I would label a bowler express if he can bowl in test spells at 145 to 156 kph, more then a few times, only guys I count as express are Thommo, Lee, Akhtar, Tait, M Zahid could have been in that category probably. Even Tait did not bowl that kind of pace in tests. Zahid didnt last long too. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Even Tait did not bowl that kind of pace in tests. Zahid didnt last long too. Tait had the ability n natural speed, I often look at speed a bowler bowls with his first delivery of the day, last spell, he could touch 150 at will,his problem was control ,pace wise I think he was as fast as Lee, Akhtar, one guy who could be express per reports is Patrick Patterson but those were days with no speed guns, but batters have vouched for his being express. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 One guy who I feel sorry for and could be better then Umesh was Aaron, he hasn't got selectors backng ,has pace , skills and could be India's fastest yet. King Tendulkar and Mosher 2 Link to comment
puneet28 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, MCcricket said: One guy who I feel sorry for and could be better then Umesh was Aaron, he hasn't got selectors backng ,has pace , skills and could be India's fastest yet. Still remember the peach delivery he bowled to Hashim Amla in his last test in Bangalore. Don't know who he faded away because he was 3rd/4th option in seam bowling. Link to comment
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