Are we not aware of the importance of batting strike-rates in T20Is ?

[express bowling]

T20s have 120 balls per innings ..... if we consider top 7 batters then it means an average of 17 balls per batter

 

Priority for 5 of those 7 batters usually is to score as many runs as possible in the balls they play rather than trying to build an innings.

 

Good T20 teams generally tend to include a couple of 140+ SR batters  (  one out of those two 150+ )  ..... most of them 128+ in terms of SR

 

1 )  T20I  SR of our top 7 batters in today's T20I playing XI

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Kohli	2010-2017	51	46	12	1830	90*	53.82	1344	136.16	0	17	0	196	35
HH Pandya	2016-2017	20	10	0	100	31	10.00	75	133.33	0	0	1	7	5
KM Jadhav	2015-2017	8	5	0	95	58	19.00	72	131.94	0	1	0	9	2
RG Sharma	2007-2017	64	56	12	1373	106	31.20	1062	129.28	1	11	3	121	51
MS Dhoni	2006-2017	79	68	34	1212	56	35.64	983	123.29	0	1	1	83	36
MK Pandey	2015-2017	10	7	1	151	51*	25.16	125	120.80	0	1	2	6	6
S Dhawan	2011-2017	24	23	2	439	60	20.90	379	115.83	0	2	1	54	12

 

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmin1=50;qualval1=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

2 ) Not a single batsman with SR of 140+.... forget 150+.

 

3 ) 3 batters with SR below 125 .... 4 batters with SR below 130

 

4 ) We have left out KL Rahul .... who has a SR of 149

 

5 ) Gavaskar asking for Rahane, with SR of 113, to replace Rahul with SR of 149

 

6)  We have not included any high SR new batters like Krunal or Pant

 

7 )  Only 3 six-hitters in the squad ..... Hardik, Rohit, Rahul ...... only 2 in the playing 11. ( current-day ability )

 

8 )  We are the 5th ranked team in T20Is now ( while being ranked 1 in both tests and ODIs ) .... so, this approach is not working in T20s.

 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/28970884

 

9 )  Top SRs in T20Is for reference.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
A Symonds (AUS)	2005-2009	14	11	4	337	85*	48.14	199	169.34	0	2	2	33	10
GJ Maxwell (AUS)	2012-2017	37	33	4	839	145*	28.93	507	165.48	1	3	1	78	44
E Lewis (WI)	2016-2017	14	14	1	468	125*	36.00	302	154.96	2	2	1	26	40
Shahid Afridi (PAK)	2006-2016	98	90	12	1405	54*	18.01	932	150.75	0	4	8	102	73
NLTC Perera (SL/World)	2010-2017	60	51	19	761	49	23.78	506	150.39	0	0	5	59	38
C Munro (NZ)	2012-2017	32	29	5	601	101	25.04	403	149.13	1	3	4	41	38
KL Rahul (INDIA)	2016-2017	9	8	2	304	110*	50.66	204	149.01	1	1	1	29	11
AJ Finch (AUS)	2011-2017	32	32	3	1124	156	38.75	755	148.87	1	7	0	114	48
Najibullah Zadran (AFG)	2012-2017	40	32	13	643	60*	33.84	433	148.49	0	2	0	39	35
LE Bosman (SA)	2006-2010	14	14	1	323	94	24.84	219	147.48	0	3	2	27	20
DJG Sammy (WI/World)	2007-2017	68	52	18	587	42*	17.26	398	147.48	0	0	3	45	31
YK Pathan (INDIA)	2007-2012	22	18	5	236	37*	18.15	161	146.58	0	0	3	11	17
V Sehwag (INDIA)	2006-2012	19	18	0	394	68	21.88	271	145.38	0	2	1	43	16
CH Gayle (WI)	2006-2017	52	49	4	1577	117	35.04	1085	145.34	2	13	2	134	103
SR Watson (AUS)	2006-2016	58	56	6	1462	124*	29.24	1006	145.32	1	10	3	115	83
E Chigumbura (ZIM)	2006-2016	47	46	8	789	54*	20.76	543	145.30	0	3	5	56	46
ML Hayden (AUS)	2005-2007	9	9	3	308	73*	51.33	214	143.92	0	4	0	37	13
MN van Wyk (SA)	2007-2015	8	7	1	225	114*	37.50	157	143.31	1	1	0	19	14
Shafiqullah (AFG)	2010-2017	35	32	9	392	51*	17.04	274	143.06	0	1	4	29	23
JA Morkel (SA)	2005-2015	50	38	11	572	43	21.18	402	142.28	0	0	1	29	39
AC Gilchrist (AUS)	2005-2008	13	13	1	272	48	22.66	192	141.66	0	0	0	27	13
KP Pietersen (ENG)	2005-2013	37	36	5	1176	79	37.93	831	141.51	0	7	1	119	32
L Ronchi (AUS/NZ)	2008-2017	32	25	6	359	51*	18.89	254	141.33	0	1	4	30	14
RE Levi (SA)	2012-2012	13	13	2	236	117*	21.45	167	141.31	1	1	3	20	15
JDP Oram (NZ)	2005-2012	36	30	7	474	66*	20.60	339	139.82	0	2	3	38	22
DA Warner (AUS)	2009-2017	64	64	3	1694	90*	27.77	1213	139.65	0	12	5	164	74
JC Buttler (ENG)	2011-2017	57	49	11	1014	73*	26.68	731	138.71	0	5	3	72	46
Mohammad Nabi (AFG)	2010-2017	58	53	7	876	89	19.04	634	138.17	0	2	3	56	45
RR Rossouw (SA)	2014-2016	15	14	3	327	78	29.72	237	137.97	0	2	2	29	12
CJ Anderson (NZ)	2012-2017	29	22	3	432	94*	22.73	314	137.57	0	2	3	26	24
Sharjeel Khan (PAK)	2013-2016	15	15	0	360	59	24.00	262	137.40	0	2	0	48	13
LJ Wright (ENG)	2007-2014	51	45	5	759	99*	18.97	554	137.00	0	4	9	68	31
MN Waller (ZIM)	2011-2016	28	27	5	567	68	25.77	414	136.95	0	1	2	38	26
Mohammad Shahzad (AFG)	2010-2017	58	58	3	1779	118*	32.34	1300	136.84	1	12	3	200	66
GJ Bailey (AUS/World)	2012-2017	30	26	7	473	63	24.89	346	136.70	0	2	1	37	20
Yuvraj Singh (INDIA)	2007-2017	58	51	9	1177	77*	28.02	863	136.38	0	8	1	77	74
MEK Hussey (AUS)	2005-2012	38	30	11	721	60*	37.94	529	136.29	0	4	1	58	25
BB McCullum (NZ)	2005-2015	71	70	10	2140	123	35.66	1571	136.21	2	13	3	199	91
V Kohli (INDIA)	2010-2017	51	46	12	1830	90*	53.82	1344	136.16	0	17	0	196	35
MH Cross (SCOT)	2013-2017	23	18	1	392	60	23.05	288	136.11	0	1	1	42	16
Mashrafe Mortaza (BDESH)	2006-2017	54	39	11	377	36	13.46	277	136.10	0	0	6	28	23
DT Johnston (IRE)	2008-2013	30	19	7	249	62	20.75	184	135.32	0	1	1	13	11
AD Hales (ENG)	2011-2017	48	48	6	1383	116*	32.92	1022	135.32	1	7	4	148	42
Imran Nazir (PAK)	2007-2012	25	24	1	500	72	21.73	370	135.13	0	3	2	59	22

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmin1=200;qualval1=runs;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

What do we plan to do about it  ?

 

Are we able to demarcate between T20Is and ODIs in terms of player types and team composition  ?

 

 

Edited October 7, 2017 by express bowling

[sandeep]

Its not a question of knowledge.  Its a question of the "regulars" in the team willingly giving up lucrative spots in the national T20 team.   If a player gets clubbed as a less effective T20 player, its going to impact his IPL contract numbers big-time. 

 

If you are expecting the likes of Dhawan or Dhoni to volunteer such massive $$ sacrifices, or expecting that Kuptaan Kohli is going to be ruthlessly meritocratic instead of "taking care" of his buddies, then you should go talk to Anil Kumble.  

[express bowling]

11 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Its not a question of knowledge. 

 

It was a tongue-in-cheek statement .... I am not really implying a lack of knowledge  regarding the need for high SR T20I batters.

 

 

Quote

Its a question of the "regulars" in the team willingly giving up lucrative spots in the national T20 team.   If a player gets clubbed as a less effective T20 player, its going to impact his IPL contract numbers big-time. 

 

If you are expecting the likes of Dhawan or Dhoni to volunteer such massive $$ sacrifices, or expecting that Kuptaan Kohli is going to be ruthlessly meritocratic instead of "taking care" of his buddies, then you should go talk to Anil Kumble.  

 

Manish Pandey and Kedar Jadhav are not stars but are there

 

Ashwin and Jadeja have been dropped, despite being big names.

 

To me, it is partially a case of mixing formats and thinking that a high SR ODI batter is a high SR T20I batter too .... hence we are seeing Pandey, Dhawan, Jadhav

Edited October 7, 2017 by express bowling

[jf1gp_1]

13 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Its not a question of knowledge.  Its a question of the "regulars" in the team willingly giving up lucrative spots in the national T20 team.   If a player gets clubbed as a less effective T20 player, its going to impact his IPL contract numbers big-time. 

 

If you are expecting the likes of Dhawan or Dhoni to volunteer such massive $$ sacrifices, or expecting that Kuptaan Kohli is going to be ruthlessly meritocratic instead of "taking care" of his buddies, then you should go talk to Anil Kumble.  

IPL is professional league, every team will drop anyone irrespective of reputation if players brings no value

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said:

IPL is professional league, every team will drop anyone irrespective of reputation if players brings no value

Yes, but presence in the national T20 team gives exposure and opportunities that the likes of Dhawan etc can use to audition themselves - if the likes of Shreyas Iyer, Samson get more chances at their expense, then they run the risk of being perceived as 'past-it' or fading players.  Do you think the absence of Ash and Jaddu in ODI and T20 series is not going to have an impact on their auction valuations?  Of course it will.  Same goes for batsmen.  

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

It was a tongue-in-cheek statement .... I am not really implying a lack of knowledge  regarding the need for high SR T20I batters.

 

 

 

Manish Pandey and Kedar Jadhav are not stars but are there

 

Ashwin and Jadeja have been dropped, despite being big names.

 

To me, it is partially a case of mixing formats and thinking that a high SR ODI batter is a high SR T20I batter too .... hence we are seeing Pandey, Dhawan, Jadhav

Ashwin Jadeja dropped since they are test regulars. Wonder if Dhawan and Dhoni who only have loi spots are becoming difficult to dislodge. Rahul must play.

[sandeep]

4 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Ashwin Jadeja dropped since they are test regulars. Wonder if Dhawan and Dhoni who only have loi spots are becoming difficult to dislodge. Rahul must play.

Yes Bonda brother.   

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Ashwin Jadeja dropped since they are test regulars. Wonder if Dhawan and Dhoni who only have loi spots are becoming difficult to dislodge.

 

Dhawan was dropped from our T20I team against England, earlier this year.

 

His recent ODI form has most probably influenced his T20I selection.

 

3 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Rahul must play.

 

Absolutely.

 

[Adi_91]

T20 is for the younger lot, fresh legs and a chance to try new, exciting talent.

 

No wonder with this unnecessary too much emphasis on experience over fresh talent, our team's strike rates are lower.

[raki05]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Dhawan was dropped from our T20I team against England, earlier this year.

 

His recent ODI form has most probably influenced his T20I selection.

 

 

Absolutely.

 

Why can't selector try all the youngsters and non regular in t20 rather than these overhyped bunch as other than wt20 who cares even if we loose few t20s while trying few new faces. In that way atleast we would be future ready and if  history gives testimony for that as only time we won t20wc when the team was completly different from regular odi side.

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Why can't selector try all the youngsters and non regular in t20 rather than these overhyped bunch as other than wt20 who cares even if we loose few t20s while trying few new faces. In that way atleast we would be future ready and if  history gives testimony for that as only time we won t20wc when the team was completly different from regular odi side.

 

These bilateral T20Is are ideal for trying Krunal, Pant, Iyer, Thampi etc. by rotation.

Edited October 7, 2017 by express bowling

[Vilander]

18 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Yes Bonda brother.   

Not sure what you mean by bonda but Rahul has 149 strikerate the guy is the nedt kohli. No point dropping him he is no Rahane in loi he is as good as he is in Tests ;)

[Nonbeliever]

Kl Rahul should be the first choice for opener.  Looks like Kohli is not keen on sharing the limelight.

[raki05]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

These bilateral T20Is are ideal for trying Krunal, Pant, Iyer, Thampi etc. by rotation.

Absolutely.....otherwise what purpose ipl is serving other than providing monetery benifits to the individuals which is good. But just like domestic ranji,vijay and duleep series performance which is require for test and odi slection. Ipl performances  should be given paramount importance for t20 selection.

[raki05]

4 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

Kl Rahul should be the first choice for opener.  Looks like Kohli is not keen on sharing the limelight.

+1Somehow it gives me a sense(may be wrong)that everyone considering him a threat for their position. Including kuptan saheb and even budhha gavaskar, i think he is the person who can compete with kohli in all fomat provided better grooming and oopurtunities.

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Absolutely.....otherwise what purpose ipl is serving other than providing monetery benifits to the individuals which is good. But just like domestic ranji,vijay and duleep series performance which is require for test and odi slection. Ipl performances  should be given paramount importance for t20 selection.

 

Just look at the difference Kuldeep and Chahal have made to this side.

 

Must try the same by introducing young batters.

Edited October 7, 2017 by express bowling

[OpeningBatsman]

If you hv heard Virats post match comments, then dhawan is nt going anywhere anytime soon

I'm a big fan of dhawan the Odi player but he's a poor t20 player.

Out of the current squad Virat is the best equipped to open in t20 or Rahul could be tried.

Need some fresh players in. Whats the use of IPL if we don't give chance to people who perform?

Edited October 7, 2017 by OpeningBatsman

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, OpeningBatsman said:

If you hv heard Virats post match comments, then dhawan is nt going anywhere anytime soon

I'm a big fan of dhawan the Odi player but he's a poor t20 player.

Out of the current squad Virat is the best equipped to open in t20 or Rahul could be tried.

Need some fresh players in. Whats the use of IPL if we don't give chance to people who perform?

 

Something like

 

Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Iyer 

Hardik

Pant

Krunal

 

would be a T20I batting lineup

[OpeningBatsman]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Something like

 

Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Iyer 

Hardik

Pant

Krunal

 

would be a T20I batting lineup

Yes, even though I don't rate Iyer much it's a good lineup, especially Pandya brothers at 6/7. 

I don't know where Nitish Rana disappeared to after the IPL, could have been a good prospect. 

[express bowling]

16 minutes ago, OpeningBatsman said:

Yes, even though I don't rate Iyer much it's a good lineup, especially Pandya brothers at 6/7. 

I don't know where Nitish Rana disappeared to after the IPL, could have been a good prospect. 

 

Iyer is just an example ( as he had a SR of 139  @ an average of 34  last IPL  and is doing well in A-team games nowadays ) and  can easily be replaced by a better prospect if any.     : )

Edited October 7, 2017 by express bowling