Vijy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, express bowling said: Something like Rohit Rahul Kohli Iyer Hardik Pant Krunal would be a T20I batting lineup yes, this would be solid. Iyer is a longer format batsman in my opinion. Someone like Rana, Hoodlum, etc. might be more suitable Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I don't know what value Dhoni brings to the team if he doesn't bat, starts missing stumping chances like he did today and without any grooming role, since Pant is not playing. raki05, express bowling, Laaloo and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Vijy said: yes, this would be solid. Iyer is a longer format batsman in my opinion. Someone like Rana, Hoodlum, etc. might be more suitable Hooda's ability to hit international pacers is still unclear to me. rahulrulezz and OpeningBatsman 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: Hooda's ability to hit international pacers is still unclear to me. I don't know either. Perhaps Iyer is the best bet, but I'd rather see him play in test matches someday. We need to find players who can score at a career SR of 150-160. Apart from Pandya bros and maybe Pants I can't think of any. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 They arent aware of the obv that dhoni, jadhav, nehra wont play next t20 wc yet they are continuing with them.....rest comes later Continous selection of dhawan in t20, rahane in LOi, Dhoni in t20 , karthik in international cricket despite failures shows how aware they are MCcricket and OpeningBatsman 2 Link to comment
Texan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Agree and I yhink pretty much everyone here acknowledges that we play T20s in "ODI" mode. We have been lucky of late that our bowlers have been doing really well. Its high time our selectors realize that T20 is a totally different format with very different skill requirements. Rahul, Pant, Krunal should be given a decent run in the team. OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 We simple aren't getting the game, we initially won the t20 worlcup when this version was in it's nascent stage, now although we have the best leGue in the business, other countries are ahead of us. Blame squarely should be on selectors as they don't get it n care enough to focus on separate t20 squad, it's more of an after thought n most ODi players get in by virtue of being there on the tour. If selected on merit 40% of the squad or more don't deserve to be on the squad. DHONI Dhawan Rahane Need to go asap Also Virat, Rohit, Jadhav should target 150 mark as far as S/R. Young guns like Sarfaraz, Hooda, K Pandya , other t20 specialist should come in, also personally I would hand over captaincy to someone else, so we have an option in the future, someone young and aggressive n wants to win bad. Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, MCcricket said: We simple aren't getting the game, we initially won the t20 worlcup when this version was in it's nascent stage, now although we have the best leGue in the business, other countries are ahead of us. Blame squarely should be on selectors as they don't get it n care enough to focus on separate t20 squad, it's more of an after thought n most ODi players get in by virtue of being there on the tour. If selected on merit 40% of the squad or more don't deserve to be on the squad. DHONI Dhawan Rahane Need to go asap Also Virat, Rohit, Jadhav should target 150 mark as far as S/R. Young guns like Sarfaraz, Hooda, K Pandya , other t20 specialist should come in, also personally I would hand over captaincy to someone else, so we have an option in the future, someone young and aggressive n wants to win bad. yes, we also need a fast scoring keeper-batsman. either pant or kishan I guess. it has been quite a while since sarfaraz played a T20 I think OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 hours ago, raki05 said: +1Somehow it gives me a sense(may be wrong)that everyone considering him a threat for their position. Including kuptan saheb and even budhha gavaskar, i think he is the person who can compete with kohli in all fomat provided better grooming and oopurtunities. I am certain that he can surpass Kohli in Test matches and can go neck to neck in ODI and T20 hence another choice for captainship. raki05, Gollum and Nonbeliever 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, wanted_desi said: I am certain that he can surpass Kohli in Test matches and can go neck to neck in ODI and T20 hence another choice for captainship. He's already better than VK when both had played the same number of Tests, but in limited overs I think VK is better. OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Vijy said: I don't know either. Perhaps Iyer is the best bet, but I'd rather see him play in test matches someday. We need to find players who can score at a career SR of 150-160. A batsman who bats in the top 4 can have a SR of 135+ till we find someone better. At the very least, it would be an upgrade over the 115 to 123 SR batters that we have now 3 hours ago, Vijy said: Apart from Pandya bros and maybe Pants I can't think of any. Rahul is capable of maintaining 140 SR as he is a big six hitter OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Texan said: Agree and I yhink pretty much everyone here acknowledges that we play T20s in "ODI" mode. We have been lucky of late that our bowlers have been doing really well. Its high time our selectors realize that T20 is a totally different format with very different skill requirements. Rahul, Pant, Krunal should be given a decent run in the team. Yes, almost all our T20I picks are based on recent ODI form. We don't want to develop T20 specialists. Link to comment
rahulrulezz Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Tbh the OP should be a selector. All his posts in this thread are hitting the nail. I agree with all his selections, Krunal, Shreyas, Rishabh Rahul are what exactly we are missing from our team. Imagine a lineup of Shreyas Rohit Virat Rahul Rishabh Krunal Hardik Kuldeep Chahal Bhuvi Bumrah 12th man Raina Imagine this lineup for a t20. Other than Rohit, I don't think anyone will ever break the momentum. 6 Bowlers. 3 pacers, 3 spinners. 2 wrist spinners, 1 left arm finger spinner. Edited October 8, 2017 by rahulrulezz Vk1, Mosher, OpeningBatsman and 1 other 4 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 What is the average runs scored per Innings in T20s in India? That will give a fair idea. You don't see huge scores in international T20s in the subcontinent. It's always around 160-170. That is 8 runs an over and almost a SR of 140. Explains the lack of 140+ SR batsmen in the current team. OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 7 hours ago, OpeningBatsman said: Yes, even though I don't rate Iyer much it's a good lineup, especially Pandya brothers at 6/7. I don't know where Nitish Rana disappeared to after the IPL, could have been a good prospect. Rana just hit a 100 ranji trophy yesterday. He hasn't disappeared anywhere OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said: Tbh the OP should be a selector. All his posts in this thread are hitting the nail. I agree with all his selections, Krunal, Shreyas, Rishabh Rahul are what exactly we are missing from our team. Imagine a lineup of Shreyas Rohit Virat Rahul Rishabh Krunal Hardik Kuldeep Chahal Bhuvi Bumrah 12th man Raina Imagine this lineup for a t20. Other than Rohit, I don't think anyone will ever break the momentum. 6 Bowlers. 3 pacers, 3 spinners. 2 wrist spinners, 1 left arm finger spinner. 1. It's easy to say that Iyer and pant will not break the momentum but the reality might be very different. IPL and T20Is are different scenarios. Both have been inconsistent in the IPL itself. Change in the team doesn't always mean that the new players will perform. Dhawan is an established opener. You need to have strong reason to replace him. Iyer and pant both haven't performed extraordinarily or anything in the A-series or BP11 matches. 2. There is no proper keeper in your team. Pant/Rahul are half&half keepers. 3. Krunal isn't ready yet for International games. I would say Axar is a better pick currently as we more of their bowling than batting given the top 6 we have. 4. Raina has been out of the scene for a long time now. He also has ego issues by not playing Ranji and other domestics. Not fit as well. Can't have such players in the national team. Dhawan Rohit VK Rahul Dhoni Pandya Axar Kuldeep Chahal Bhuvi Bumrah 6 bowling options. 3 pacers and 3 spinners. 2 wrist and 1 finger-spin. Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Rana just hit a 100 ranji trophy yesterday. He hasn't disappeared anywhere What I meant was, i don't think he has been part of any recent A tours, usually A tour selections are supposed to be a step towards natnl team. Either that, or I have not been paying attention Edited October 8, 2017 by OpeningBatsman express bowling 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 9 hours ago, Adi_91 said: I don't know what value Dhoni brings to the team if he doesn't bat, starts missing stumping chances like he did today and without any grooming role, since Pant is not playing. According to some he is still grooming Virat and keep grooming till eternity Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 46 minutes ago, OpeningBatsman said: What I meant was, i don't think he has been part of any recent A tours, usually A tour selections are supposed to be a step towards natnl team. Either that, or I have not been paying attention no he has not been on any A team because his last ranji season was average. His debut season was good. This season he has started well. Also he did play warmup against Australia, got runout unfortunately. OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 5 hours ago, express bowling said: A batsman who bats in the top 4 can have a SR of 135+ till we find someone better. At the very least, it would be an upgrade over the 115 to 123 SR batters that we have now Rahul is capable of maintaining 140 SR as he is a big six hitter I meant more in the 160 category. Link to comment
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