A S Dulat: The niggle

[mishra]

India responsible for creating mess in Kashmir: Ex-RAW chief

Former spy chiefs want Indo-Pak cricketing ties resumed.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/former-spy-chiefs-want-indo-pak-cricketing-ties-resumed-do-you-agree/20171009.htm

 

We make fun of Mushy. Cant believe this guy was ex Raw chief. How the hell did he manage to rise so high. And that too in Vajpayee Government.

 

It was during the time of this this Ars hole that we had IA 814 was hijacked. He knows that all the terrorist were officially weaponised by Pakistani Army when the plane landed in Lahore and then Taliban put a defence under direct instructions and planning by Pak Army/ISI in Kandhar.

 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2017 by mishra

[mishra]

https://kashmirobserver.net/2017/regional-news/ex-isi-and-raw-chiefs-engage-debate-first-time-ever-24195

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The event, titled 'Spymasters Speak: Can Intelligence Agencies Do Good?', that brought together the two top figures from both intelligence services was organised by the LSE South Asia Forum in collaboration with LSE Pakistan Development Society on Friday night.

Opening the debate, Haq, the former director general of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) said that the situation in Kashmir had taken a ”turn for the worse” since last July. He said that Indian forces had tackled protest with singular ruthlessness and indiscriminate use of pellet guns, adding that "Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his extremist allies were using harsh rhetoric against Pakistan to electoral and political advantage."

“If left unresolved, it [Kashmir dispute] will keep returning as a crisis with increased intensity — there are no problems between the two countries that can’t be resolved through dialogue,” The Hindu quoted him as saying.

Concurring with Haq, Dulat said, “It is high time we started talking.”

“Heavy handedness has never worked in Kashmir […] actually it doesn’t work anywhere as we’ve seen recently in Spain. Kashmir needs to be discussed and discussed upfront, not only between us but between Delhi and Srinagar.”

“Pakistan has long gone out of the Kashmir equation, and the Kashmiris realise there is nothing more to be gained from Pakistan,” he claimed.

Seriously, our Spy chief sharing a stage with ISI spy chief whose hands are soaked in blood of Indians Americans Afghanis , on no good platform in a third country just to make some media sensation.

And here, I saw people protesting Ansari sharing stage on a PFI co sponsor

 

Also look at language. ISI hief of Pakistan is being very direct. Our own is still being goodie goodie

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2017 by mishra

[randomGuy]

I agree.... Jo log chu tia (braid) katne ke rumors pe anti india protest shuru kar dete  hain, they themselves are responsible for the 'mess', rather, they themselves are a 'mess'.

[mishra]

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The extent of Taliban/ISI/jihadist cooperation was revealed during the Indian hostage crisis of 1999, the resolution of which I witnessed first hand. I sat at Kandahar airport with a group of reporters, photographers and TV crews just 500 metres from an Indian Airlines Airbus, the only functional aircraft there. Black-turbaned Talibans soldiers guarded the plane with more than 155 passengers on board as negotiations between the hijackers and UN officials dragged on.Conditions inside the plane were stifling. The body of a passenger killed by the hijackers lay in a pool of blood.

Armed with grenades, pistols and knives, five men had seized flight IC 814 about 40 minutes after it took off from Kathmandu, Nepal on a scheduled flight to New Delhi on 24 December 1999. The plane had made stops in India, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates before landing in Afghanistan. The hijackers, who called themselves Kashmiri freedom fighters, had demanded the release of three top Islamic militant leaders from Indian prisons. Some of the hooded hijackers would climb down occasionally to receive supplies or talk to officials. The Taliban officials were visibly warm towards them.

Interestingly, the Taliban leaders, who in the past had scorned foreign journalists and deemed photography as un-Islamic, were overly amiable, providing them with facilities. There were no restrictions on TV cameras and photography. The conservative Islamic administration appeared extremely keen to have international publicity for the event. Scores of media persons from the world over had descended on the spiritual headquarters of the regime as the hijacking drama unfolded.

The eve of the new century brought an end to the hostages’ eight day ordeal when the Indian Foreign Minister, Jaswant Singh, arrived with the three men whose freedom was demanded by the hijackers. Among them was a short, stocky man with an unkempt black beard.A former leader of HuM, Masood Azhar was captured by the Indian authorities in 1994 and held in prison on terrorism charges. Along with him was a tall heavily built young man. A Pakistani-born British national, Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh had been detained in Delhi’s high security Tihar prison for many years on charges of kidnapping three foreign tourists.

The hijackers stepped down triumphantly from flight IC 814, their faces still covered, as Indian officials handed over the freed militants to the Taliban authorities. Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil, the suave Foreign Minister of the Taliban regime, won international praise for his ‘deft handling’ of the hijacking episode. But the real-life drama was taking place at the far end of the tarmac. The freed militants were warmly greeted by Mullah Akhtar Usmani, the chief of Taliban forces in Kandahar, and dozens of other senior officials of the fundamentalist regime. They were joined by two of the hijackers, one wearing a western suit and the other in safari dress. ‘Are you satisfied now?’ a smiling Mullah Usmani asked the two men. ‘Indeed,’ replied one of
them excitedly. They were whisked away in a window-blackened vehicle to an unknown destination. The three other hijackers also vanished from the scene.

‘Everything had gone amazingly smoothly due to the Taliban’s excellent political acumen and superb handling of the situation,’ Azhar later recalled. It was the first time that a Pakistani-based militant group had successfully used hijacking as an instrument of terror. The wellplanned action was carried out by HuM: a group similar to LeT, but which drew its recruits from less well-educated, unemployed youth, often from the North-West Frontier Province. HuM was formed by former members of Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA) after it was put on the State Department terrorist organizations list in 1994.

The group could not have succeeded without backing from the Taliban government and its Pakistani patrons. In fact, Afghan sources, including Muttawakil, who had surrendred himself to US forces after the fall of the Taliban regime, revealed that the hijackers were taking instructions from Pakistani intelligence officials present at the airport.The hijacking was followed by an extension of militant operations well inside India. Ironically, all its jihadist ‘assets’ who had figured in the incident returned to haunt Pakistan with the turn of events a few years later.

 

Above from Pakistani Reporter Zahid Hussains book.

 

The thing to remember that during the crisis is " In Lahore, Not only, Pakistani officials rejected the pilot's request to offload some women and children passengers due to tense relations with India they also further weaponised and gave further instructions"

 

This was all during the watch of Dulat. Him and NSA Brajesh Mishra goofed up and let the plane leave Indian soil. Now we can blame Mishra Advani and everyone else, But I would say Dulat must have immediately advised not to let the plane off Indian soil.

 

Dulat now says, Duval panicked while negotiating in Kandhar ignoring just 3 out of big list of terrorist were negotiated by him. This Dulat guy is lucky that media keeps its distance from RAW

Edited October 12, 2017 by mishra