express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Most teams nowadays are trying to play multiple allrounders. This policy is effective if such players deserve to be in the team based purely on atleast one of the disciplines, batting, bowling or keeping .... and the other discipline is additive. Ashwin and Jadeja are good examples of this ... they would be in our test team while playing in Asia, even if they could not bat. Mitchell Marsh in test matches is an ideal example of someone who can neither bat nor bowl and should not have played 21 tests, but has done so as a " potential all-rounder ". This is the type which should be discouraged and Ashwin-type allrounders encouraged. We have quite a few all-rounders already playing for India or doing well in FC and List A. TESTs Batting-allrounders for tests Hardik Pandya - pacer / big-hitter New - Vijay Shankar - pacer / big-hitter Washington Sundar - spinner Bowling-allrounders for tests Ashwin - spinner Jadeja - spinner / big-hitter Jayant Yadav - spinner New - Axar - spinner Gowtham - spinner / big-hitter Karn - spinner Nagarkoti - pacer Bowlers who can bat somewhat - tests Bhuvi - pacer LOIs Batting-allrounders for LOIs Hardik Pandya - pacer / big-hitter New - Shankar - pacer / big-hitter Krunal - spinner / big-hitter Washington Sundar - spinner / big-hitter Gowtham - spinner / big-hitter Bowling-allrounders for LOIs Axar - spinner / big-hitter Jadeja - spinner New - Karn - spinner Nagarkoti - pacer Bowlers who can bat somewhat - LOIs Bhuvi - pacer Shardul - pacer / big-hitter Batsman who can bowl somewhat - LOIs Kedar - spinner Getting a couple of new batting-allrounders in our LOI teams, like Shankar, Krunal, Gowtham ..... would lend a lot of balance to our team. Please discuss what you know about the new all-rounders. Edited October 16, 2017 by express bowling maniac, Rightarmfast and tweaker 3 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I would blame the Aussie pitches for Mitch marsh failure. Only genuine bowlers can pick wickets on those highways and that too during new ball periods. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Vk1 said: I would blame the Aussie pitches for Mitch marsh failure. Only genuine bowlers can pick wickets on those highways and that too during new ball periods. Mitch Marsh bats at 6 , so batting is his primary discipline, but averages 21 with the bat after 21 tests. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is the area which is very critical for our team Batting-allrounders for LOIs Hardik Pandya - pacer / big-hitter New - Shankar - pacer / big-hitter Krunal - spinner / big-hitter Washington Sundar - spinner / big-hitter Gowtham - spinner / big-hitter Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 K Gowtham - against Assam 149 off 170 balls with 6 sixes and 10 fours .... liked the pulled 6 off Nechim 3 + 4 = 7 wickets True all-round performance. Rightarmfast and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/103059-ranji-trophy-201718/?do=findComment&comment=3521271 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 It is hard to find all rounders. Odds of finding a spin/batting combo is higher than pace/batting. In last 50 years India had only one genuine aall rounder so why waste time on something that is just not there. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Really wanna see Kamlesh n Rahul chahar bat ........they both have abilities and both are livewire in the field as well Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 59 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Really wanna see Kamlesh n Rahul chahar bat ........they both have abilities and both are livewire in the field as well Yeah .... I forgot to add Nagarkoti in the original list Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 53 minutes ago, express bowling said: Yeah .... I forgot to add Nagarkoti in the original list Even i have heard rahul has good abilities with bat, if these two develop well they could be serious LOI packages with added bonus of their fieldings Link to comment
Ishantboyz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 i think when r ashwin can perform outside india then we have a really good allrounder on our hands Link to comment
Texan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Is Karn referring to Karn Sharma? If so, then his batting cannot be classified as good enough for being called an allrounder. He is more like a bowler who bats a little, similar to Kuldeep Yadav. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: they should look to improve the batting of the pacers in junior and domestic levels,the spinners seem to bat better,ppl like ashwin jadeja,axar, jayant, karn ,mishraji even chawla ,kuldeep too has potential Yes .... and make the batsmen, who can bowl a bit, send down a few overs. We used to have Sachin, Sourav, Yuvi, Sehwag, Raina .... batsmen who could bowl somewhat and be the 6th bowler ... but now there is only Kedar Link to comment
CommonMan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 How good are they in fielding ? Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Is Shankar fast medium at least? I heard he was only medium pace... Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: Is Shankar fast medium at least? I heard he was only medium pace... He is medium-fast as of today but can hit the deck hard and has a good bouncer. He has also said that he is working hard on increasing his pace and if Bhuvi could then even he can : ) Edited October 17, 2017 by express bowling mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) - Edited October 17, 2017 by express bowling Link to comment
Khota Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 hours ago, MultiB48 said: rubbish,by this logic one will never improve. All I am saying is there is no need to spend so much energy for something elusive. If you get a allrounder once in 50 years the odds are low to find one. Moreover cricket is a speciality sport and there is no room for part timers. Link to comment
Khota Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 hours ago, MultiB48 said: ind has produced only 1 genuine wrist spinner in all it's history ,maybe we shouldnt look for that either ,in any case we have more pacers now than ever in our history so it shows that things are not that elusive after all. Yes we have more pacers and plenty of pacers but only one allrounder that I can think of. Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 3:43 AM, express bowling said: Yes .... and make the batsmen, who can bowl a bit, send down a few overs. We used to have Sachin, Sourav, Yuvi, Sehwag, Raina .... batsmen who could bowl somewhat and be the 6th bowler ... but now there is only Kedar this is a critical issue, IMO. All of our batsmen are prima donnas who refuse to bowl or learn how to do so. Rohit used to bowl but he gave up. Link to comment
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