Pakistan will play in ICC world leagues only if India honours MoU

[Malcolm Merlyn]

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KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board has agreed to be a part of the World Test and One-day leagues, announced by the ICC, only if the BCCI honours the MoU signed between the two boards in 2014 to play bilateral series.

"PCB will only sign on the document for participating in the World Test and ODI leagues if India fulfils its obligations to play bilateral cricket with Pakistan outlined in the MoU signed between the two boards," PCB chairman Najam Sethi told the media in Lahore.

Giving details of the ICC meetings held in Auckland which he attended, Sethi said Pakistan's participation in the new ICC events was conditional.

The ICC, after its meetings in Auckland, announced that nine teams would take part in the World Test league scheduled to start after the 2019 World Cup with each team playing six series on home and away basis across two years.

Similarly, the ODI league will feature 13 teams with each team playing eight home and away series in two years time.

The leagues are being launched by the ICC to make the Test and ODI formats more meaningful.

Sethi said Pakistan had made it clear that it would only participate in the leagues only if the BCCI honoured the MoU document signed in 2014 and resumed playing bilateral cricket with Pakistan.

 

 

He noted that any Test or ODI league would be meaningless without Indo-Pak bilateral matches.

 

 

 

"The documents signed by participating boards have to be handed over to the relevant committee in three or four months time," he said.

 

 

 

"We will only sign if we get what we want. India fulfilling its obligations as per the MoU in 2014," he said.

 

 

 

In the MoU, which Sethi signed with his BCCI counterpart, the two countries were slated to play six bilateral series between 2015 and 2023 with Pakistan hosting the first series in 2015/16

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PCB begging continues.This time trying to hold the ICC leagues hostage.Shameless people.

[Lala2790]

Well done to the PCB.  It's time the BCCI were held to account and stop their bullying tactics

[Khota]

14 minutes ago, Lala2790 said:

Well done to the PCB.  It's time the BCCI were held to account and stop their bullying tactics

There is no bullying. BCCI has taken a honorable stand that innocent blood should not be shed. I disagree with BCCI on 90% of things they do but this 10% I agree with. 

 

By not playing the bilateral they have honored the MOU.

The MOU had a condition of govt approval .

This was dependent on you guys behaving.

You did not behave.

No permssion granted.

MOU honored.

 

There is more to life then a silly game of cricket. We need to chart different courses in life. You dont like us and we wont play.

[Lala2790]

7 minutes ago, Khota said:

There is no bullying. BCCI has taken a honorable stand that innocent blood should not be shed. I disagree with BCCI on 90% of things they do but this 10% I agree with. 

 

By not playing the bilateral they have honored the MOU.

The MOU had a condition of govt approval .

This was dependent on you guys behaving.

You did not behave.

No permssion granted.

MOU honored.

 

There is more to life then a silly game of cricket. We need to chart different courses in life. You dont like us and we wont play.

And yet, players in India get attacked (Finch).  Imagine if Cricket Australia/the ECB withdrew from playing in India.  The BCCI would have a tantrum and break away from the ICC.

 

Two standards for different countries

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, Lala2790 said:

And yet, players in India get attacked (Finch).  Imagine if Cricket Australia/the ECB withdrew from playing in India.  The BCCI would have a tantrum and break away from the ICC.

 

Two standards for different countries

This is a alternate reality you are living in. Your post is the exact reason why BCCI should never play PCB because of a mindset like yours. You really are equating the Finch incident to the killings that go on in Pakistan? If so please introspect and then realize why these countries should not play. There is a huge gulf in our thinking.

[Lala2790]

Pakistan have held many tournaments recently with no incident.  How much longer should they be punished.....

 

You're thinking is that the world will never change and that second chance are never given and that the Finch incident was 'isolated'.  It could have easily killed him.

 

Wake up and see that there is little difference

[Khota]

1 minute ago, Lala2790 said:

Pakistan have held many tournaments recently with no incident.  How much longer should they be punished.....

 

You're thinking is that the world will never change and that second chance are never given and that the Finch incident was 'isolated'.  It could have easily killed him.

 

Wake up and see that there is little difference

One isolated stone throw is same as hundreds of discharged bullets. Please think through before posting.

 

As far as Pakistan being isolated I really feel bad but as Kabir Ji said "Rope birva neem ka, aam kahan sa hoi" - translation if you sow neem trees dont expect mangoes.

[Lala2790]

17 minutes ago, Khota said:

One isolated stone throw is same as hundreds of discharged bullets. Please think through before posting.

 

As far as Pakistan being isolated I really feel bad but as Kabir Ji said "Rope birva neem ka, aam kahan sa hoi" - translation if you sow neem trees dont expect mangoes.

Logic is clearly not your strength.

 

You're boring me with your ignorance.  Enjoy Diwali friend

[Khota]

11 minutes ago, Lala2790 said:

Logic is clearly not your strength.

 

You're boring me with your ignorance.  Enjoy Diwali friend

Reality is something you are devoid of. Diwali is a festival of lights. These lights can enable you to see better but you have made a choice to stay in dark. It is your choice. I am glad you are on this forum so that we can exchange ideas. Happy Diwali to you too.

[Jimmy Cliff]

Beggars gonna beg. Nothing to see here.

[chewy]

 these terrorists are never far away from from the next self-embarrassment, their obsession of playing with India is becoming sad 

Everybody knows pak doesn't have the balls to boycott ICC, why....because no-one could care less and where is all the money going to come from? The loss making PSL  

[bsriharsha]

With respect to India - Either engage with Pakistan fully or don't engage with them at all. This half arsed nature isn't gonna work out. 

With respect to Pakistan - Go ahead and not sign the MOU. The ICC has already said that the league will proceed regardless of Pakistan signing or not. Let's see who's the bigger loser when you  withdraw from the league insisting on playing India and you lose out on playing your fair share of games against other teams. Other teams aren't going to be interested in playing Pakistan in UAE especially when there's no context to that series anymore.

They'd rather schedule series against teams which reflect in the points table.

We all know what's going to happen. Pakistan will end up signing the MOU. This posturing is a ridiculous attempt to make their voices heard. 

[chewy]

4 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

 

We got isolated after this while you got another game. Also this is not just said in India like look at England. There was terriost bombing going on in that country and yet we continued on with cricket. While its true no one got attacked in England. But still waiting for team to be attacked to isolate a country from its cricket is really double standards.

 

 

It's not double standards, it's perception, England and India are deemed much safer, whilst in Pakistan the next murderous attack especially against minorities is around the corner, and of course the Pak security forces (aka Army) can't be trusted since they are in cahoot with globally recognised terrorists and not to mention Bin Laden

[bsriharsha]

2 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

How are they deemed safe when a certain bus attack happen recently and terriost attacks happen recently as well? These are double standards because both of these countries never got isolated after these incidents while Pakistan did. 

No Country is safe now from terrorism. But there's a difference in being a country which is a victim of terrorism and in being a country which has sheltered terrorists and is continuing to shelter them

The Pak army can't be trusted. Everyone knows who calls the shots in Pakistan and dictates the terms to the civilian government. The minute there's a civilian government strong enough to dictate terms to the Pakistan army and the said government is interested in talking and taking concrete steps against terrorist outfits. Let's have the discussion.






 

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

How are they deemed safe when a certain bus attack happen recently and terriost attacks happen recently as well? These are double standards because both of these countries never got isolated after these incidents while Pakistan did. 

I think people can understand the difference between a drunk fan showing frustration by throwing a stone and a planned terrorist attack which wanted to kidnap/kills players. 

 

I like how you claimed about players not getting hurt but apart from 6 players injured, 6 policemen and 2 civilians were killed. Does their deaths not matter?

 

However, to answer your question, the reason for the perception Pakistan has is because of their own doing. Seriously or not, people know that the stone throwers were caught and jailed. They know the intention and trust India and Indian government. on the other hand, this week, Pakistan threw out terror charges against Hafeez Saeed. Pakistanis can fool themselves by saying no evidence, etc, etc but the rest of the world is not blind and deaf. They know Pakistan government supports terrorists and since they do, how can they keep people safe from their own terrorists? Pet terrorists constantly go rogue

 

The trust issues Pakistan has is linked to your government and their support of terrorists

[bsriharsha]

Just now, Shaz1 said:

Before 2009 we had many games played in Pakistan. The same country you say shelters terriosts. None of what you saw in that 2009 attack happen during those times. Also recently we had a World eleven game where the army gave a presidential security. What ever player came had nothing but praises for Pakistan. Meaning there is enough proof we kept the players safe. Only thing missing is the players approval to play there.

 

Spending huge amounts of money as a matter of national pride to provide security only proves that the security threat in Pakistan is still a huge issue. Keeping a city in virtual lockdown just to host 3 T20 matches is foolishness. 

Work on getting to a stage where you don't need to keep the city under lockdown when VVIP's similar to the US president come and visit to have important peace discussions to ensure everlasting world peace ......**** , they are just cricketers who are paid to participate in cricket matches come


 

[bsriharsha]

16 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

Rather its a drunk fan or a terriost either way the security of the players got hampered. Don't make this a tug a war by trying to play down a situation that could have easily gotten worse. If a player was sitting by that window and got hit by that rock with a shattered glass it would have caused some serious damage. Maybe not enough to kill a player but enough for him to spend some time in the hospital. But no that does not matter since terorism only happens in Pakistan. 

 

They do matter. So does every life on this planet. Does that mean we stop entertaining our selves?

 

I agree what ever Pakistan is right now is there own doing. However thats not really my point here. My point is players got attacked in both countries and in only one of them the country got isolated. Double standards? I think so.

There's a difference between a hooligan throwing a stone or a terrorist throwing a grenade and firing 1000 bullets.  Can't ever equate the two of them. 

The drunk fan who threw the stone was sent to jail. He'll not be allowed in a cricket stadium ever. Whatever happened to the terrorists who attacked the Lankan team? I think they made a clean get away and were never caught. That's another difference.


Where's the double standards ? It's about the fallacy of equating being attacked in a planned and coordinated terrorist attack with the actions of a drunk individual.  

[bsriharsha]

Anyway , I feel for the public of Pakistan. They clearly aren't to blame for the actions of the persons in power. But with the situations to what they are.

both I&P should stop engaging with each other fully. No bilateral trade or relationships of any sort. Just wall up the borders and ignore each other and pretend the other doesn't exist.

[bsriharsha]

2 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

The double standards are these which I will repeat again. Both countries got there bus attacked and only one of them got isolated. Now how they happened is irrelevent since in both instances the players security got hampered. One country got a terriost attack  during a champoin's trophy tournament while the tournament continued. Another country got a terriost attack on there bus and it gets isolated. 

Cricketers got shot at and suffered injuries. You'd have to question the intent here. The main intent of the terrorists was to kill and kidnap the srilankan cricketers. Can't ever equate the intent behind terrorists to an intent behind a drunk hooligan.

I do condemn the actions of the individual but they should be taken for what it is. Yes, There was a chance that Finch could have suffered an injury. But actions were taken. 

Also with respect to the CT tournament, Were cricketers the targets ?

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, bsriharsha said:

With respect to India - Either engage with Pakistan fully or don't engage with them at all. This half arsed nature isn't gonna work out. 

 

The moral of India's policy is  'not to relate with  a 'terror' sponsoring nation' as much as possible if not fully avoidable'.That is why India avoids bilaterals with Pakistan  completely , but plays in ICC events because otherwise they will loose points that affects chances as a whole in the particular tournament. Personally I don't find anything wrong in it .