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Would you encourage your son/daughter to join Indian military?


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As far as i can see, he has shown respect for our requests and has shown a lot of restraint. The CC of the old would have gone ballistic on you, on your provocative siggy, which would have resulted in fist fights between you both. If CC insults you, feel free to give it back to him. But keep out third class abuse words & family references. We dont want to ban anybody. The loss will be this board's. Please cooperate, everyone.
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Man, hats off to people like Shwetabh and Bumper. I dont think they would have had to deal with issues like this even in real-life, be it at their home or work. A Big salute to your commitment to the board guys, I hope people atleast recognize and respect your contribution and for that sake alone, keep quiet and put aside their personal differences !

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I wonder why all these loud mouthed nationalist fellows have taken the easy route to sit on an arm chair and proclaim their love for the country writing pages of crap about culture and elite values; earning thousands of dollars fattening their bank accounts rather than be on the field saving real lives for the sake of the country! Bravo you real soldiers!

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Would you encourage your son/daughter to join Indian military or would you talk them out of it?
Of course I would encourage him/her. Heck I would encourage every freaking Indians to go and join Armed Forces if I could. This is partly due to my nationalist sentiments but I would also say not everyone has that. But what everyone does appreciate is the discipline and order that Armed Forces bring to the table. Have you ever, and I mean ever, seen an Army Officer who looks fat? Have you ever seen an Armed Official sitting, making gossips and blaming everyone else? ANd have you ever not sat with an Armed official and come out impressed with his demeanour, his style of talking and his stories? Why wouldnt you want your kids to have that life? Sure let him decide if he/she wants it to be his lifelong career or short service(SSC) but I would surely encourage him to join the Army. xxx
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Of course I would encourage him/her. Heck I would encourage every freaking Indians to go and join Armed Forces if I could. This is partly due to my nationalist sentiments but I would also say not everyone has that. But what everyone does appreciate is the discipline and order that Armed Forces bring to the table. Have you ever, and I mean ever, seen an Army Officer who looks fat? Have you ever seen an Armed Official sitting, making gossips and blaming everyone else? ANd have you ever not sat with an Armed official and come out impressed with his demeanour, his style of talking and his stories? Why wouldnt you want your kids to have that life? Sure let him decide if he/she wants it to be his lifelong career or short service(SSC) but I would surely encourage him to join the Army. xxx
They are so refined and stickler to the law with a no nonesense approach that in my village army men are called "pagal". Achchha tarika apnaya hai logon ne apna embarassment ko face karne ka.....:D
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They are so refined and stickler to the law with a no nonesense approach that in my village army men are called "pagal". Achchha tarika apnaya hai logon ne apna embarassment ko face karne ka...
Very true. In Gaya there is this Army Cantonment called ASC(Army Service Corps). It is actually on the outskirts of Gaya but the soldiers come to town often. It was very common to see the sipahis at Railway station standing in line to get reservation done for trains and similar things. Now in Bihar lines are often cut by force, and some bahubali would come swinging with a - Pahchaante ho kaun hain. These sipahis could have thrashed bunch of civilians anyday but they would stand painstakingly in the line awaiting their turns.
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Have you ever, and I mean ever, seen an Army Officer who looks fat?
Huh ?You gotto be kidding me! I have flown into Delhi ( IGI Airport) a lot of times and taken the next morning connection flight to Kolkata- and EVERY TIME, there is a huge lineup outside the domestic terminal when a bus full of Jawans show up for their connector to Leh. All these guys look like they are fresh out of army school and quite young- but EVERYTIME there is a sardarji 'boss guy' ( i dunno rank) who goes out to the counter, gets the boarding passes and then hawks the name of the Jawans (who all line up and yell out 'yes sir' when their name is called and then go to this boss dude and get their boarding passes). And every single time, the sardarji 'boss guy' is some old dude in his 50s with a freaking HUGE gut happening. I've seen this scene play out atleast 3 times each with a different pot-belly Sardarji 'boss guy' hawking names out!
Why wouldnt you want your kids to have that life?
1. I don't want my (future) kid(s ) to die defending an arbitary line on a map, which pretty much i garantee you- will change one way or another every 200-300 years anyways. 2. While military folks have a no-nonsense attitude, i find them ( not just Indian military, but even foreign militaries i've known) to be extremely sexist in their views. Basically they don't like women in power or taking orders from a woman- which i find to be a laughably sad attitude and not something i look forward to in my kid 3. Military the world over have a laughably rigid protocol, which invariably revolves around 'shoot first, ask questions later' attitude. And which is why, EVERY military, when in a deployed state - including Indian military in kashmir or far-east, is guilty of gross human rights violations- which has been documented by several NGOs in detail. Again, not something i want my kid to be associated with. I want my kid to have a happy life and if they are patriotic, they have a lot of opportunity displaying that patriotism in FAR MORE TANGIABLE manner- such as involvement & propagation of cultural activities, charity work, etc. I'd much rather have that than my kid dying because of the whims of politicians inside and across the border.
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I would not really encourage my future son to join the military unless it was needed. I would feel proud knowing he is willing to serve the country in it's time of need, but I would never force him. I live in the US and I highly support the US military and if it was truly required, I'd have a good talk with him about joining. Heck I'd join myself probably!

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I live in the US and I highly support the US military and if it was truly required, I'd have a good talk with him about joining. Heck I'd join myself probably!
Unless you are a prenant teen/knocked up someone before finishing highschool, the chances of you and your son joining the military together is next to zero. It has to be literally WWIII and US losing badly for them to raise the bar to 40+ for recruitment. Either that, or you get associated with some defence industry and serve in a technical/worker capacity for the war effort.
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Unless you are a prenant teen/knocked up someone before finishing highschool, the chances of you and your son joining the military together is next to zero. It has to be literally WWIII and US losing badly for them to raise the bar to 40+ for recruitment. Either that, or you get associated with some defence industry and serve in a technical/worker capacity for the war effort.
I said "future son". I don't plan on being a father before I complete college. Also if it was "required" I would join at 40+, I really couldn't see myself as a worker helping with the war effort though...
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Also if it was "required" I would join at 40+, I really couldn't see myself as a worker helping with the war effort though...
Well, even if WWII history is something to go by, not many Brits (and even fewer Americans) saw combat duty signing up as a 40 year old newbie. Even if you join up at 40+, chances are very high that someone 'up there' will think you are better suited to sitting in a factory with a blowtorch in hand rather than running around in the middle of the night with nightvision.
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Well, even if WWII history is something to go by, not many Brits (and even fewer Americans) saw combat duty signing up as a 40 year old newbie. Even if you join up at 40+, chances are very high that someone 'up there' will think you are better suited to sitting in a factory with a blowtorch in hand rather than running around in the middle of the night with nightvision.
Maybe, but they'd be making a big mistake. I'm awesome just to let you know... I can fight! lol:two_thumbs_up:
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oh i don't doubt that 40 year old newbies can fight... they definitely have more experience and brains (and less balls, which in this case is a good thing) than 18-19 year old 'meat-shields'. Problem is, they run out of steam before getting TO the fight. :D

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oh i don't doubt that 40 year old newbies can fight... they definitely have more experience and brains (and less balls, which in this case is a good thing) than 18-19 year old 'meat-shields'. Problem is, they run out of steam before getting TO the fight. :D
Only problem is that not all 40 year olds are like what you label them to be, neither are the 18-19 year old "meat shields".
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neither are the 18-19 year old "meat shields".
LOL. This is actually a term coined in a very narrow demographic sense ( under 25) by US military personnel in Vietnam war- i know 3 of those personally, including one who was in special Ops. I've found this term to be invariably true in most militaries, since newbie 17-18 year olds are considered grunts and expendable ( you dont get to pilot a combat aircraft or do anything more than be a sailing hand at 20 in the military anyways). As such, its almost always the newbie on sentry watch/scouting job etc. and the take the most vulnerable of combat positions. Or atleast, thats what all the military folks i know say....
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LOL. This is actually a term coined in a very narrow demographic sense ( under 25) by US military personnel in Vietnam war- i know 3 of those personally, including one who was in special Ops. I've found this term to be invariably true in most militaries, since newbie 17-18 year olds are considered grunts and expendable ( you dont get to pilot a combat aircraft or do anything more than be a sailing hand at 20 in the military anyways). As such, its almost always the newbie on sentry watch/scouting job etc. and the take the most vulnerable of combat positions. Or atleast, thats what all the military folks i know say....
You don't need to explain that to me. My point was just because people are labeled something in general doesn't mean that all are truly that.
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And every single time, the sardarji 'boss guy' is some old dude in his 50s with a freaking HUGE gut happening. I've seen this scene play out atleast 3 times each with a different pot-belly Sardarji 'boss guy' hawking names out!
I am sure that is aberration of the norm rather than norm itself. We can both agree that overall an average military person is lot fitter than an average Indian. I personally am a fitness fanatic but even my training regimen(an hour a day at 4:30am 5 days a week) is often no match to these military wallahs. And I must say I respect that as a man who has been doing fitness drills for over a decade now.
1. I don't want my (future) kid(s ) to die defending an arbitary line on a map, which pretty much i garantee you- will change one way or another every 200-300 years anyways. 2. While military folks have a no-nonsense attitude, i find them ( not just Indian military, but even foreign militaries i've known) to be extremely sexist in their views. Basically they don't like women in power or taking orders from a woman- which i find to be a laughably sad attitude and not something i look forward to in my kid 3. Military the world over have a laughably rigid protocol, which invariably revolves around 'shoot first, ask questions later' attitude. And which is why, EVERY military, when in a deployed state - including Indian military in kashmir or far-east, is guilty of gross human rights violations- which has been documented by several NGOs in detail. Again, not something i want my kid to be associated with. I want my kid to have a happy life and if they are patriotic, they have a lot of opportunity displaying that patriotism in FAR MORE TANGIABLE manner- such as involvement & propagation of cultural activities, charity work, etc. I'd much rather have that than my kid dying because of the whims of politicians inside and across the border.
Those are not incorrect point but your logic is flawed on two accounts: 1) You are concentrating ONLY on negatives. Yes Armed force works on rigid protocol which can easily kill free-thinking. But it also instills a sense of discipline in a person for that exact same reason. You dont waste time arguing needlessly if it needs to be done or not, you have faith in your superiors and do it. By and large the superiors in Armed force dont misuse that kind of responsibility and so I dont have as much reservation as say you do. 2) Arent you being a tad dominating when you say things like - Not something I want kids to be associated with? I mean that gives an image of what you want your kids to be. Surely it should be his/her choice. Which is why I suggested that kids could join Armed services for SSC(3-5 years) and then decide what they want to do with their life. xxx
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I am sure that is aberration of the norm rather than norm itself. We can both agree that overall an average military person is lot fitter than an average Indian
Oh yes. I guess it is possible that the Sardarjis i saw were training camp instructors, who hardly ever see combat or duty outside the training camps and can get pretty podgy.
By and large the superiors in Armed force dont misuse that kind of responsibility and so I dont have as much reservation as say you do.
I am looking at the bigger picture here- ie, how this impacts the personality of a subordinate outside of military-where he/she is used to taking orders/not thinking stuff through etc. Sure, in military its fine mostly but in real life, thats just ridiculous.
I mean that gives an image of what you want your kids to be. Surely it should be his/her choice. Which is why I suggested that kids could join Armed services for SSC(3-5 years) and then decide what they want to do with their life.
If my kid has his/her heart set on ANYTHING- including being a pornstar, i won't flat out say no or stand in the way. As you correctly said, it is their choice and they are free to exercise their choice. However, i will do my best councelling them on their career/life choices and in that aspect, my feedback to them regarding military is not going to be positive. And lets face it, even in the most liberal of households, parents who get along with their kids do carry some weight to their opinions.
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