SK_IH Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I am biased towards Dhoni,so Dhoni for me ,as a fan I relate his prime with lots of memorable glories Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Dhoni is a hack. Tendulkar the best batsmen ever the history of Cricket seen. This is like comparing Bruce Lee to Tiger Shroff and asking if tiger Shroff is better than Bruce lee Edited October 30, 2017 by Rightarmfast adi B and maniac 2 Link to comment
Bhavneet Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 The main reason why i feel that Dhoni is a better cricketer than Sachin is because he has effectively been a match winner for India on many occassions despite his lack of batting talent not only against Sachin but also against the likes of Yucraj Singh etc. Dhoni has a lot of persevarance and is an acute judge of critical situations. Even though he is no longer india's captain, his behind the scenes contribution to the team currently is responsible for the strong position that India is in these days. Link to comment
Gollum Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Forget SRT. Merchant, Hazare, Mankad, Bedi, Gavaskar, Vishy, Kapil, Vengsarkar, Kumble, Srinath, Dravid, Ganguly, VVS, Sehwag, Zak, Kohli and Ashwin are at least 2 tiers above Dhoni, these names are just from top of my head, there could be more. I wouldn't put the hack in my top 20 greatest Indian cricketers, forget being better than SRT LOL. Only Sunny and Kapil can be compared to SRT, rest all are clearly below him at the moment. Dhoni is over rated and simply not good enough to be even in an Indian ATG discussion, deal with it you muppets. sergio04, Rightarmfast, rahulrulezz and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 12 hours ago, Vilander said: On topic. MS played for the team and won many championships. Sachin had great individual records in ODI. Vilander Bhai... beg to differ. Sachin carried the weight of the team on his shoulders. Cannot be equated with winning or not winning. I remember the chennai test against Pakistan. He brought the team to the threshold of victory, even with back injury. But the moment he got out, the whole team collapsed like a pack of cards. Is that Sachin's fault? This thing about Sachin being a choker is a Pakistani created frenzy because of their complex. Don't fall into that trap. Even as a captain, Sachin was very aggressive but couldnt find the right support from his team. Our team was very mediocre then. If he had the services of Srinath, Zaheer, Md Shami, Umesh Yadav with Kumble , I am telling you, he would have conquered the world. He never had any bowlers with him. And he has been blamed unnecessarily all these years Link to comment
Gollum Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 If I were to rate a cricketer my weightage would be: 1. 60% for test performances (may be a 45:55 split for home:away) 2. 20% for ICC CWC 3. 10% for combined CT+ WT20+ Asia Cup+tri nation/multi nation...... 4. 7% for bilateral ODIs 5. 2% for domestic Ranji, Duleep, Irani etc 6. 1% for IPL Based on my formula Dhoni doesn't cut it because he is a garbage test cricketer, pathetic in ICC tourneys, Asia Cup, tri nation etc. Sachin is platinum standard in 1, 2, 4, 5 and good enough in 3, 6. Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Both are different and both are legends, you can't really compare both, but to be frank no batsman comes closer to peak dhoni, yes not even tendulkar. Shaz1, Gollum, velu and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
velu Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Gollum said: If I were to rate a cricketer my weightage would be: 1. 60% for test performances (may be a 45:55 split for home:away) 2. 20% for ICC CWC 3. 10% for combined CT+ WT20+ Asia Cup+tri nation/multi nation...... 4. 7% for bilateral ODIs 5. 2% for domestic Ranji, Duleep, Irani etc 6. 1% for IPL Based on my formula Dhoni doesn't cut it because he is a garbage test cricketer, pathetic in ICC tourneys, Asia Cup, tri nation etc. Sachin is platinum standard in 1, 2, 4, 5 and good enough in 3, 6. that gollums rating Link to comment
Bhavneet Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Agree with you speedheat Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 clearly dhoni- his test record overseas is just fantastic Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 1:41 PM, Gollum said: If I were to rate a cricketer my weightage would be: 1. 60% for test performances (may be a 45:55 split for home:away) 2. 20% for ICC CWC 3. 10% for combined CT+ WT20+ Asia Cup+tri nation/multi nation...... 4. 7% for bilateral ODIs 5. 2% for domestic Ranji, Duleep, Irani etc 6. 1% for IPL Based on my formula Dhoni doesn't cut it because he is a garbage test cricketer, pathetic in ICC tourneys, Asia Cup, tri nation etc. Sachin is platinum standard in 1, 2, 4, 5 and good enough in 3, 6. How is Dhoni Garbage test cricketer. He is arguably the best Indian wicket keeper/bat ever in all formats. Link to comment
mishra Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, rkt.india said: How is Dhoni Garbage test cricketer. He is arguably the best Indian wicket keeper/bat ever in all formats. +1. He is best wicketkeeper test player India has ever produced. Probably one of the best in world cricket just after Gilly/Sanga Edited October 31, 2017 by mishra Link to comment
RPSinghalong Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 In my honest opinion Sachin, never has the modern world seen such a great batsmen. His shot selection and the way he executed his shots was amazing to watch. MSD is a legend but Sachin is #1. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 This is mother of all trolls.. But the fact is one played for his personal milestones and other one played for Indian team. Big difference.. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, mancalledsting said: clearly dhoni- his test record overseas is just fantastic Clearly sachin - his record choking in crucial matches is just fantastic doubt even ABD can get close to that. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 lol- both played for personal milestones- dhoni's personal milestone was inflation of his bank balance- even if it meant Indian cricket going to the dogs Sachin did play for milestones- because the fans of the early 90s demanded it of him and we all thrived on this, can't blame him for giving the fans what they want Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 46 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: lol- both played for personal milestones- dhoni's personal milestone was inflation of his bank balance- even if it meant Indian cricket going to the dogs Sachin did play for milestones- because the fans of the early 90s demanded it of him and we all thrived on this, can't blame him for giving the fans what they want Can't remember Dhoni running for a single in 50th over to complete his milestone like someone else. I like the way IND cricket went to dogs.. T20WC WC CB series #1 ODI T20 TEST CT2013.. hope many more of that in future. GOING TO DOGSSS Sachin played for milestone because he was worries about his Ads and himself. Fans want Trophies no one gives a * about his 100s I rather win a trophy with 99 out than his 100 and lose A.C.2012 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 the majority of dhoni's LOI career was based around coming lower down the order when there weren't many runs left on the board and getting a 20*, 15 *, 32* etc and thus preserving a high statistical average. Once he realised the benefits of the phenomena of inflating your average with not outs he became addicted to it and elongated his career with it. He knew if he batted up the order, his technique with a number of holes in it would become exposed and his commercial viability reduced. In test cricket there is nowhere to hide as a team is obliged to bowl out the whole lineup and hence the gaping holes in his batting technique were brutally exposed. Dhoni is lucky that the world currently contains a large population that are too dumb to understand any of these intricacies, he knows most ppl are thick as sh*t and will fall for these tricks....he's probably reading these posts in his support and thinking "suckers" maniac, Bigg Brother, adi B and 4 others 1 4 2 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, mancalledsting said: lol- both played for personal milestones- dhoni's personal milestone was inflation of his bank balance- even if it meant Indian cricket going to the dogs Sachin did play for milestones- because the fans of the early 90s demanded it of him and we all thrived on this, can't blame him for giving the fans what they want 45 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: the majority of dhoni's LOI career was based around coming lower down the order when there weren't many runs left on the board and getting a 20*, 15 *, 32* etc and thus preserving a high statistical average. Once he realised the benefits of the phenomena of inflating your average with not outs he became addicted to it and elongated his career with it. He knew if he batted up the order, his technique with a number of holes in it would become exposed and his commercial viability reduced. In test cricket there is nowhere to hide as a team is obliged to bowl out the whole lineup and hence the gaping holes in his batting technique were brutally exposed. Dhoni is lucky that the world currently contains a large population that are too dumb to understand any of these intricacies, he knows most ppl are thick as sh*t and will fall for these tricks....he's probably reading these posts in his support and thinking "suckers" there are fanboys ,then there are rabid haters like this guy velu and mancalledsting 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 59 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: the majority of dhoni's LOI career was based around coming lower down the order when there weren't many runs left on the board and getting a 20*, 15 *, 32* etc and thus preserving a high statistical average. Once he realised the benefits of the phenomena of inflating your average with not outs he became addicted to it and elongated his career with it. He knew if he batted up the order, his technique with a number of holes in it would become exposed and his commercial viability reduced. In test cricket there is nowhere to hide as a team is obliged to bowl out the whole lineup and hence the gaping holes in his batting technique were brutally exposed. Dhoni is lucky that the world currently contains a large population that are too dumb to understand any of these intricacies, he knows most ppl are thick as sh*t and will fall for these tricks....he's probably reading these posts in his support and thinking "suckers" Nailed it bro, can't agree more and not to forget he is the biggest hypocrite on earth, left captaincy saying split captaincy don't work but now himself splits it on the ground in a live international match by unnecessarily interventions and dumb suggestuons Laaloo and mancalledsting 1 1 Link to comment
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