Pollack Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: What happen? Did Bhuvi lose his swing? Bhuvi doesn't swing that way when it's flat. ;) Shaz1 and Peshust 1 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just a day off, he has been consistent for the longest time. beetle and Peshust 2 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Let's save Shami for overseas Odis, ICC tournaments and test cricket. Let's play bhuvi on the phattas in Odis. We will win most of these anyway. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Bhuvi if there is help in the air or pitch can run through a lineup. But this is modern day LOI played mostly on flat pitches. So unfortunately, he will lose you important games. Can't believe we are playing Bhuvi, Bumrah and Hardik as our pacers. This is a very very weak pace attack that where no one complements each other. Bumrah is really good but he does have a choker streak in him (World T20 2014 and CT 2017). I just hope that's a blip and not the norm cos he is pretty reliable otherwise. Hardik as 3rd pacer with 2 spinners is risky in England 2019 WC. Edited October 29, 2017 by sensible-indian Gollum, Laaloo and Shaz1 3 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: Every bowler can but somehow Bhuvi is pointed out every time. Bumrah in CT final and other matches. Shami, Yadav. Last match on a flat pitch when BK bowled excellently no one said anything. That's all I am saying Last match pitch wasn't flat. Link to comment
Shaz1 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Bhuvi if there is help in the air or pitch can run through a lineup. But this is modern day LOI played mostly on flat pitches. So unfortunately, he will lose you important games. Can't believe we are playing Bhuvi, Bumrah and Hardik as our pacers. This is a very very weak pace attack that where no one compliments each other. Bumrah is really good but he does have a choker streak in him (World T20 2014 and CT 2017). I just hope that's a blip and not the norm cos he is pretty reliable otherwise. Hardik as 3rd pacer with 2 spinners is risky in England 2019 WC. Good read. One of the most sensible Indians this guy. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 bhuvi was so erratic in this match dont know if nerves of playing at home... Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, G_B_ said: bhuvi was so erratic in this match dont know if nerves of playing at home... There was a lot of dew in the end. Early on, Munro particularly targeted him. Should have tried a few Yorkers to Munro. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just a day off, he has been consistent for the longest time. Career avg of 37 says something else. Vilander and Peshust 1 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Delivered in end overs... Cricketics and beetle 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 This bhuvi criticism should be stopped, poor guy was tired today even than he delivered when mattered, he is the most improved cricketer. Forever Indian, maniac, Mosher and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) He is still way way better than your rubel hossain @Malcolm Merlyn Edited October 29, 2017 by Laaloo Peshust 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Bhuvi bowled well at death and not upfront.This is not an indication of bhuvi having a bad day but pitch being super flat and bhuvi's ineffectiveness on super Patta. Restricting runs at death require completely different skills which bhuvi seems to have mastered. Before someone give example of last match where bhuvi got swing on supposedly flat pitch------ No, there was help when bhuvi was bowling. Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, sensible-indian said: Bhuvi if there is help in the air or pitch can run through a lineup. But this is modern day LOI played mostly on flat pitches. So unfortunately, he will lose you important games. Can't believe we are playing Bhuvi, Bumrah and Hardik as our pacers. This is a very very weak pace attack that where no one complements each other. Bumrah is really good but he does have a choker streak in him (World T20 2014 and CT 2017). I just hope that's a blip and not the norm cos he is pretty reliable otherwise. Hardik as 3rd pacer with 2 spinners is risky in England 2019 WC. i have also said that bhuvi will be exposed again and again if theres a flat wicket with less swing ...and bumrah is miles ahead of him in wicket-taking capabbilities as he produced some jaffas and outside edges in 1st and 2nd odi too Link to comment
Cricketics Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Op clearlu doesn’t know anything about fast bowling. He doesn’t know much and its sad because you are talking about one of the best bowlers from India. Also that yorker bowled was a brilliant comeback from Bhuvi today and a brilliant important wicket. Peshust, Turning_track, beetle and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, Cricketics said: Op clearlu doesn’t know anything about fast bowling. He doesn’t know much and its sad because you are talking about one of the best bowlers from India. Also that yorker bowled was a brilliant comeback from Bhuvi today and a brilliant important wicket. read it- 3 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: i have also said that bhuvi will be exposed again and again if theres a flat wicket with less swing ...and bumrah is miles ahead of him in wicket-taking capabbilities as he produced some jaffas and outside edges in 1st and 2nd odi too Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pollack said: Bhuvi bowled well at death and not upfront.This is not an indication of bhuvi having a bad day but pitch being super flat and bhuvi's ineffectiveness on super Patta. Restricting runs at death require completely different skills which bhuvi seems to have mastered. Before someone give example of last match where bhuvi got swing on supposedly flat pitch------ No, there was help when bhuvi was bowling. I do not think any other indian pace pair today would have won this game for india . Think of it .. with dew .. he missed one yorker , which was hit for 6 and there was not even a single four till the last ball when match was already won in the last 4 overs . We here really cringe and weep too much ! . With so much dew that was fantastic death bowling. Its the team management which should really think and see how best that can use skills to best advantage of the team . If the pitch is flat and batters are going after you .. bhuvi should not be bowling 5 -6 years upfront. Use him moer in the 30-50 over phase with instrution to bowl more yorkers. Yes in intial overs he should have been off after 2 overs . beetle 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: read it- Thats your opinion. Fact is every wicket is kind of flat these days when 280-300 are easily being scored by one team, then its considered flat. So Bhuvi failing today and doing well on those doesn’t mean he failed to perform on a flat wicket. Just a bat day today first up. Also remember Boult had a bad day today like Bhuvi who went for lot of runs but he actually bowled decent in first 5 overs but brilliance of Rohit and Kohli negated that and they kept scoring runs of Boult and co on good balls. So give credit to batting team too now regardless of what the bowling figure show. One can call someone a bad bowler on flat decks if it continuously happens. This was one off from Bhuvi and even then he finished well. Yes, not the best day overall but I am not comcerned at all. beetle 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said: I do not think any other indian pace pair today would have won this game for india . Think of it .. with dew .. he missed one yorker , which was hit for 6 and there was not even a single four till the last ball when match was already won in the last 4 overs . We here really cringe and weep too much ! . With so much dew that was fantastic death bowling. Its the team management which should really think and see how best that can use skills to best advantage of the team . If the pitch is flat and batters are going after you .. bhuvi should not be bowling 5 -6 years upfront. Use him moer in the 30-50 over phase with instrution to bowl more yorkers. Yes in intial overs he should have been off after 2 overs . You are basically saying the same thing. Bumrah and bhuvi are our best death bowlers. But bhuvi will be found lacking bowling upfront on absolute Patta like of today. Bhuvi, bumrah and Hardik is a very weak pace attack on pattas. This may not be obvious as of now but it will come back to bite us in an important match for us in future. Link to comment
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