What is your ideal ODI line up?

[swastikpanda2]

We should be strengthening our bowling instead of batting. Imitating Australia and England line up is not justified. They need an extra batsman down the order because they play two explosive batsman as opener, whereas we don't. Our top order is good at strike rotation so let them be. No need of explosion at top.

 

1) Rohit

2) Dhawan

 

Back ups: Rahane and Rahul

 

3) Kohli / Rahul

4)  Iyer / Pandey

 

Presently we don't have a No.4.

Pandey is incosistent

I think Rahul struggles against the spinners initially. Not saying he is weak against spinners but he like to play pacers at start and even he also does not like to bat at middle order what I feel.

Iyer should be tried. He can hit the spinners well in the middle overs.

 

5) Hardik Pandya

 

Hardik should not be playing as 3rd seamer. If he will then it's a matter of time we will be seeing a Afridi in our line up. He is on that way. All thanks to team management for making him a pure mythical all rounder instead of specialised all rounders. If we want to see him becoming Kallis/ Stokes then it's better to promote him. This is his place. Period.

 

6) MS Dhoni/ DK Karthik

 

7) Bowling allrounder: Washington Sundar

 

A bowling all rounder with dependable bowling and high Strike rate while batting.

 

 

8) Bhuvi

9) Wicket taking seamer: Shami / Siraj / Yadav

10) Bumrah

11) Chahal/ Kuldeep

 

Don't know why India is playing two spinners in expense of a pace bowler. Find this move backward. We were playing 3 seamers when we had Mohit Sharma/ Vinay Kumar and now when we have a good pace bench we are playing two pacers. 

 

I feel this team can score 280-320 everytime by their tiki taka strike rotation and bowlers can also defend it 9 out of 10 times.

Bowler may set up a target of around 240-280.

A bad day for any one of the bowlers won't affect the team very much.

It's the bowlers who wins the tournaments. (Mcgrath, ZAK, Starc)

 

 

 

[velu]

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli ( captain )

Rahul

Dhoni ( on field captain )

Hardik

Jadhav

Jaddu

Bhuvi

Chahal

Bumrah

[philcric]

First up, for the SL series, I'd rest all the locked in players and play the next set of hopefuls and the current ones who haven't nailed their place yet. The purpose is to find 2-3 good options for the main team by the end of the series.

 

Rest - Rohit, Shikar, Virat, Dhoni, Hardik, Bhuvi, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal

 

Play - 

K Rahul

S Iyer

M Pandey

K Jadhav

+ Karthik / Pant / Kishen

V Shankar

K Pandya

W Sundar

Shami

Siraj

Thampi / Another young pacer

 

What I'd interested in is to find 1-2 batters, 1 Wk-Bat, 1 all rounder (Shankar/KPandya/WSundar) and 1 pacer ready to be played in the main XI.

 

 

[philcric]

If the world cup is played tomorrow, this would be my XI.

 

R Sharma

S Dhawan

K Rahul

* V Kohli

+ M Dhoni

K Jadhav

H Pandya

B Kumar

M Shami / K Yadav (based on pitch / opposition)

J Bumrah

Y Chahal

 

Kohli at #4 to strengthen the middle order and try to carry his bat till the end allowing other players to play around him.

 

IMO, this is the best possible XI under the current circumstances.

 

[sandeep]

Assuming fitness

 

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Iyer

Kohli

Jadhav/Pandey/Karthik

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Shami

Chahal

Bumrah

 

12th: Jadeja/Axar

Squad: Kuldeep, Yadav, Pandey/Karthik

 

Key points.   

 

Get Shreyas Iyer into the ODI side, make him bat at #3, and ask the top 3 to bat with 10% more intent in the 1st 15 overs.  Even if a wicket falls early.   

 

Vijay Shankar and Krunal Pandya should be pulled in to practice with the home ODI squad and given specific instructions by the coaching staff for areas of improvement.  

 

Rishabh Pant / Sanju Samson / Ishan Kishan need to be given maximum opportunities at the 'A' tour level, so that we can discard Karthik at the first chance, and have greybeard's successor ready to be inducted at short notice.  

 

Washington Sundar should only play T20s for India in the next 2 years or so.  Let him develop his game further.  He could very well be a 2-skill player for us potentially.   Economic incentives are going to push him to further develop his batting anyway.  But his bowling will be key to his career and to his utility to the Indian team.   He should follow the Ashwin model, not the Kedar Jadhav/Suresh Raina model in terms of batting/bowling balance. 

 

 

[Laaloo]

2 hours ago, velu said:

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli ( captain )

Rahul

Dhoni ( on field captain )

Hardik

Jadhav

Jaddu

Bhuvi

Chahal

Bumrah

great lets bring Jaddu back so he can run out a well set batsman again  

[velu]

15 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

great lets bring Jaddu back so he can run out a well set batsman again  

 

he wont do worse than axar or kuldeep .. and he will save atleast 15runs when fielding

 

[maniac]

Till 2019 this is what we need to do 

Rohit/Samson(backup and rotation)

Dhawan(too inconsistent have a back up ready...maybe try Ishan Kishan once in a while also keeper in training...if this comes off more options )

Kohli

Rahul/Iyer

Shankar/Krunal(we need a proper batsman in our top 5 who can bowl)

Hardik

Dhoni(unfortunately not going anywhere till 2019)/Pant

Bhuvi/Shami(back up or rotation)/Thakur(backup or rotation)

Bumrah/Siraj(backup or rotation)

Kuldeep Yadav/some new young offspinner no darters like Axar please

Yuz Chahal

 

so Let us see scope for Kishan,Iyer,Siraj,Shankar,Krunal to make deubts...our side is not as stable and settled as we thought

 

Pant,Thakur,Rahul and Shami need to be back in scheme of things

 

 

[putrevus]

Why is KL Rahul in most of the squads, he has done nothing to prove that he is good odi player. His list A SR is in 70s. He needs to be back up opener.

 

If Axar is playing in the team, I would rather have jadeja at least he will be electric on the field.

[rkt.india]

Just now, putrevus said:

Why is KL Rahul in most of the squads, he has done nothing to prove that he is good odi player. His list A SR is in 70s. He needs to be back up opener.

 

If Axar is playing in the team, I would rather have jadeja at least he will be electric on the field.

Because this Rahul is not the same Rahul who had the SR in 70s in List A. He has not played any List A since he has improved and found success in IPL. If only stats were everything, we did not need selectors. At present, Rahul has everything that an LOI batsman needs and will probably the best LOI batsman in his team after Kohli and Rohit.  He has the ability to hit play according to the situation needed in middle order. He can build innings and he can play big shots when required.     

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Because this Rahul is not the same Rahul who had the SR in 70s in List A. He has not played any List A since he has improved and found success in IPL. If only stats were everything, we did not need selectors. At present, Rahul has everything that an LOI batsman needs and will probably the best LOI batsman in his team after Kohli and Rohit.  He has the ability to hit play according to the situation needed in middle order. He can build innings and he can play big shots when required.     

Didn't he play in Srilanka in odis and was dropped, he is at best wip player in odis, This notion just because he has done well in one IPL season then he has all of sudden become very good odi player.I don't see him doing well in high run chases nor doing well in middle order.

 

He is an opener and it is best to leave him there.

Edited October 30, 2017 by putrevus

[jusarrived]

Pant

Dhawan

KL

Virat

Dhoni

Sarfaraz / Sundar 

Pandya 

Kuldeep/Chahal

BK

Shami / Chahal 

Bumrah 

 

Reserves : Pandey , Rohit 

 

1-2 spinner depending on conditions .

This is the squad I would experiment with at this point , but if tomorrow we played the WC Rohit comes in for Pant and Pandey / Raina comes in for Sarfaraz / Sundar.

 

I know its stupid to change Virat's batting slot where he is so sucessful , but hes doing a relatively easier job of batting in top order . He can play a more critical role in the middle order , thats where we have big hole . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Laaloo]

32 minutes ago, velu said:

 

he wont do worse than axar or kuldeep .. and he will save atleast 15runs when fielding

 

have him as the 12th man then. There is no need for him in the team. 

[maniac]

9 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Pant

Dhawan

KL

Virat

Dhoni

Sarfaraz / Sundar 

Pandya 

Kuldeep/Chahal

BK

Shami / Chahal 

Bumrah 

 

Reserves : Pandey , Rohit 

 

1-2 spinner depending on conditions .

This is the squad I would experiment with at this point , but if tomorrow we played the WC Rohit comes in for Pant and Pandey / Raina comes in for Sarfaraz / Sundar.

 

I know its stupid to change Virat's batting slot where he is so sucessful , but hes doing a relatively easier job of batting in top order . He can play a more critical role in the middle order , thats where we have big hole . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dropping your 2nd best bat from the Odi team

 

[putrevus]

This team needs two players one like Yuvi who had ability build an innings if early wickets fell and hit boundaries at death.The second guy is player like Raina ( who can play short pitch bowling) who will launch from ball one.

 

Pant has shown ability in FC cricket but not yet shown in list A. He is just 20 so he has time to improve.

 

Yesterday was classic example what this team is lacking.250 for 1 after 40 ended up only with 337 on a very good batting track. 370 plus  is a must in that scenario. 

[jusarrived]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

Dropping your 2nd best bat from the Odi team

 

Dhawan is there in my team

[rkt.india]

28 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Didn't he play in Srilanka in odis and was dropped, he is at best wip player in odis, This notion just because he has done well in one IPL season then he has all of sudden become very good odi player.I don't see him doing well in high run chases nor doing well in middle order.

 

He is an opener and it is best to leave him there.

3 games are not enough to judge anyone that too when batting order kept shuffling every game.  If three games were enough, Kohli would have been no where near Indian test team at this point or even ODIs once he was dropped from the team after 15 or so ODIs.

 

Also, no one is saying he has become a great ODI player. Neither are Dinesh Karthik and Pandey, but he visibly has the mot potential and we still have 2 years for next WC. So better to groom him than a TTF In Karthik. 

Edited October 30, 2017 by rkt.india

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Dhawan is there in my team

Ok...looks like you are catching up on all the cricket you missed...we will discuss when you get up to date

[mancalledsting]

can't be sure on final xi for World Cup as need to trial new players and see how they get on but best estimate would be:

 

Rohit 

Dhawan 
Kohli (c)

KL Rahul 

Pandya

Jhadav 

Pant (wk) (with a long rope and initial failures accepted like we did for Kohli)

Bhuvi

Bumrah

Shardul/Siraj/Thampi (one genuine quick with licence to bowl fast and intimidate- not Umesh) 

Chahal

[rkt.india]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

This team needs two players one like Yuvi who had ability build an innings if early wickets fell and hit boundaries at death.The second guy is player like Raina ( who can play short pitch bowling) who will launch from ball one.

 

Pant has shown ability in FC cricket but not yet shown in list A. He is just 20 so he has time to improve.

 

Yesterday was classic example what this team is lacking.250 for 1 after 40 ended up only with 337 on a very good batting track. 370 plus  is a must in that scenario. 

Rahul is that kind of a player we need at 4.  he has already shown it in tests that he has the game to build innings and in T20s that he can hit big shots. Has an SR of 149.