rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Suhaan said: What about Centurion knock wc 2003? Wasn't that domination ?not on one ,but over the whole ATG attack ATG attack on its last leg. They were not the same bowlers. Akram and Waqar both were at the end of their careers. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: He thrashed boland,Faulkner the all time greats in Australia odis. very much how he thrashed Starc, Hazlewood, Johnson, Harris in the test series a year before that. velu and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: very much how he thrashed Starc, Hazlewood, Johnson, Harris in the test series a year before that. I thought we are talking about odis here. Or u want include tests also here. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: very much how he thrashed Starc, Hazlewood, Johnson, Harris in the test series a year before that. On a featherbed Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: On a featherbed Centurian 2003, Aus tour 2003-04 were also featherbeds Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, rkt.india said: ATG attack on its last leg. They were not the same bowlers. Akram and Waqar both were at the end of their careers. You must use that yardstick in every comparison then Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: I thought we are talking about odis here. Or u want include tests also here. i am just giving an example how he thrashed all set of bowlers. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, velu said: mentioned that .. those innings are rare its ridiculous to hype the bowling just because sachin has scored probably as a dhoni fan , i need to write an article about how good axar patel is in ipl Curiously waiting,go ahead Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: i am just giving an example how he thrashed all set of bowlers. He has played more than 200 odis. So better give example of those. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Centurian 2003, Aus tour 2003-04 were also featherbeds Point to be noted Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: You must use that yardstick in every comparison then Did I talk about how SRT fared on his last leg 2012-13? Same way, I take that 2003 match with a pinch of salt as both Akram and Waqar retired soon after. we are talking about peaks. SRT at his peak averaged 48 from 94-2003 as said by @Muloghonto, Kohli at his peak in last five years is averaging 71 and he has not finished yet. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Did I talk about how SRT fared on his last leg 2012-13? Same way, I take that 2003 match with a pinch of salt as both Akram and Waqar retired soon after. we are talking about peaks. SRT at his peak averaged 48 from 94-2003 as said by @Muloghonto, Kohli at his peak in last five years is averaging 71 and he has not finished yet. Yes at a time when batsmen dictate terms Rather,take this with a pinch of salt Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: He has played more than 200 odis. So better give example of those. certainly more than what SRT did in Australia. it took him 18 years to score for his first 100 there. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Yes at a time when batsmen dictate terms Rather,take this with a pinch of salt batsmen dictated terms even during SRT. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: batsmen dictated terms even during SRT. Not at all like these days It is astonishing it is coming from you You are comparing two different eras,conditions,two new balls used ,bats,ground size,t20era,red ball onedayers etc Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 SRT's record in Australia against all teams: Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1991-2012 25 25 1 740 117* 30.83 1046 70.74 1 5 0 64 1 Kohli's record in Australia against all teams: Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2018 215 207 36 10199 183 59.64 10987 92.82 38 48 12 956 111 Profile filtered 2012-2016 23 23 3 1001 133* 50.05 1122 89.21 4 4 0 86 7 fedex and velu 2 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: certainly more than what SRT did in Australia. it took him 18 years to score for his first 100 there. Yes even Manish Pandey scored a 100 there on his first tour. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Not at all like these days It is astonishing it is coming from you You are comparing two different eras,conditions,two new balls used ,bats,ground size,t20era,red ball onedayers etc Those things don't matter. Here we are talking about who is better. Who many red ball one day did SRT play? Ground sizes are very much same. Two new balls were supposed to help fast bowlers. SRT was a better batsman if we see as a batsmanship alone, far more talented but he under-achieved. Kohli has just maximized his talent and has a better temperament. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Yes even Manish Pandey scored a 100 there on his first tour. and Ganguly too scored a 100 before SRT. velu 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Those things don't matter. Here we are talking about who is better. Who many red ball one day did SRT play? Ground sizes are very much same. Two new balls were supposed to help fast bowlers. SRT was a better batsman if we see as a batsmanship alone, far more talented but he under-achieved. Kohli has just maximized his talent and has a better temperament. End of story,these things doesn't matter Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
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