Ishan Porel - new fast bowler from India (just 19 year old)

[rkt.india 9,629]

 

 

 

He retired hurt a set Batsman hitting him twice flush on the helmet. Will post those videos tomorrow.

 

 

You know when a guy can bowl like this in his 30th over of the innings then that guy is extra special.  He h it the batsman twice in his 30th over.

 

 

Hit him before he could react.

 

 

just too quick for even a set batsman. 

 

 

 

this full length delivery just too quick for this middle order batsman, Apoorva Wankhede who was a part of Mumbai Indians squad before.

 

 

[sandeep 6,935]

Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers.

[rkt.india 9,629]

3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers.

He ended up with 4 wickets on FC debut bowling on a docile pitch. First day was bad for them but today they picked 9 wickets for 220 odd rubs and he himself got 4 wickets for 70 odd odd runs today. Yesterday, I would say there were nerves of debut but he came back well today. Bowled 40 plus overs in the innings and was still bowling fast making the Batsman hop around in his 42nd over that shows the kid has good stamina.

[chapetmarunga 79]

150kph- itni bhi lambi mat pheko bhai  

[renjith 299]

hard to say if its 150. should be around 140.

Edited November 10, 2017 by renjith

[rkt.india 9,629]

Just now, chapetmarunga said:

150kph- itni bhi lambi mat pheko bhai  

Watch videos first

[rkt.india 9,629]

Just now, renjith said:

don't think its 150. should be around 140.

He is certainly in 90 mph plus.

[Mosher 13,478]

Ishan is certainly quick but only a speedometer will tell us how quick. Also looks like his bouncers are a lot more pacy than his full pitched deliveries.

[speedheat 6,073]

22 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers.

He is young and has got lively pace with accuracy 

[express bowling 21,727]

Ishan Porel picks up 4 wickets in the first innings of his FC debut 

 

We saw some raw pace from him and atleast 50 nasty, hostile bouncers ... rising steeply and many of them seaming in. Hit a set batsman twice on the helmet in the same over.

 

He has stamina too, and was seen bowling quick even after sending down 40 overs in 4 sessions. This is an essential quality for a test bowler.

 

He bowled a decent line and length and did not spray the ball around.

 

Can seam the ball both ways and gets some swing too on occasions.

 

A tall, hit-the-deck genuine quick bowler is what we had been waiting for.

 

He was making the batters hop and hurry with many of his good length  balls too. Keeper was collecting the balls chest to head high, more often than not.

Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling

[chapetmarunga 79]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Watch videos first

speed gun toh nahi dikh rahi mujhe. 

[speedheat 6,073]

Looks more like 140+kph than 150kph, its difficult to achieve 150k  at 19 

[rkt.india 9,629]

1 minute ago, chapetmarunga said:

speed gun toh nahi dikh rahi mujhe. 

Don't need speed gun to see if a bowler is quick or not.

[rkt.india 9,629]

Just now, speedheat said:

Looks more like 140+kph than 150kph, its difficult to achieve 150k  at 19 

Yes difficult but not impossible. Pat Cummins bowled 150 at 17. Nagarkoti bowled 145 at 17. James Overton bowled 150 at 19. Ishant too bowled 150 at 19.

[Malcolm Merlyn 2,254]

He isnt even 140ks.90mph at 19 will put him in express pace catagory.Remember Lee was clocked at 148ks at 18yrs.

[rkt.india 9,629]

4 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

He isnt even 140ks.90mph at 19 will put him in express pace catagory.Remember Lee was clocked at 148ks at 18yrs.

Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him.

Edited November 10, 2017 by rkt.india

[rkt.india 9,629]

 He was bowling with dinda and Kanishk who bowls 135. Dinda hits 135+ too. None of those two made Batsmen hope around. He looked quicker than even Lalit who bowled as quick as Umesh in the Ranji game they played together. He hit a set Batsman on the helmet twice, got retired hurt. He is full deliveries will be around 140 but short ones are certainly 90 mph plus. This is the quickest I have seen an indian bowler bowl this domestic season and I saw Umesh Yadav bowl too for Vidarbha. Found Ishan quicker.

[jusarrived 1,893]

Normally dont buy into pace bowler hype , but he looks like an exciting prospect . The flat pitch makes it seem like hes bowling in high 130s , but thats genuine pace and very impressive for a 19 year old . 

 

 

[express bowling 21,727]

I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. 

 

Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s.

 

Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s.

 

Aaron, when he gets a chance 

 

and  Md. Shami among our current quicks.

 

Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and  Kulwant Khejroliya.

 

Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters.

[Trichromatic 3,775]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. 

 

Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s.

 

Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s.

 

Aaron, when he gets a chance 

 

and  Md. Shami among our current quicks.

 

Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and  Kulwant Khejroliya.

 

Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters.

Don't get hype for Munaf. Fastest he bowled was 145 which Nehra, Zak, Agarkar all had bowled multiple times.

[chapetmarunga 79]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 He was bowling with dinda and Kanishk who bowls 135. Dinda hits 135+ too. None of those two made Batsmen hope around. He looked quicker than even Lalit who bowled as quick as Umesh in the Ranji game they played together. He hit a set Batsman on the helmet twice, got retired hurt. He is full deliveries will be around 140 but short ones are certainly 90 mph plus. This is the quickest I have seen an indian bowler bowl this domestic season and I saw Umesh Yadav bowl too for Vidarbha. Found Ishan quicker.

Lalit was not as fast as Umesh. Dinda bowls 125kph in domestics. Ishan maybe fast but I'd reckon around high 130s to early 140s kph at most not really 150kph

[express bowling 21,727]

I am not sure what exact speeds Porel was bowling at .... but he was very bouncy and hostile and definitely much quicker than Dinda ( who is fast-medium ).

 

 

[gakgupta 952]

8 minutes ago, express bowling said:

I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. 

 

Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s.

 

Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s.

 

Aaron, when he gets a chance 

 

and  Md. Shami among our current quicks.

 

Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and  Kulwant Khejroliya.

 

Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters.

what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too

[express bowling 21,727]

4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Don't get hype for Munaf. Fastest he bowled was 145 which Nehra, Zak, Agarkar all had bowled multiple times.

Not talking necessarily about very high release speeds .... but about hostility  which results from ..... steep bounce + zip off the deck  +  wanting to bowl short and at the batsman's body + sufficient accuracy with the shorter balls  + good pace.

[Mosher 13,478]

3 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too

Nathu? He is injured.  

[express bowling 21,727]

5 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too

 

Nathu is quick but I don't know whether he has the propensity to bowl threatening the batsman's body, ball after ball.

[rkt.india 9,629]

8 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too

Yes, he too. Still rehabbing after a back injury.

[Laaloo 11,697]

[rkt.india 9,629]

14 minutes ago, chapetmarunga said:

Lalit was not as fast as Umesh. Dinda bowls 125kph in domestics. Ishan maybe fast but I'd reckon around high 130s to early 140s kph at most not really 150kph

Yes Lalit was. Check comments on Ranji thread. We were watching that game live and didn't find much difference pace of both. Even if not as quick as Umesh, Lalit still hits 140kph and Porel looked quicker than him visibly.

[speedheat 6,073]

So finally we are producing young pacer who are genuinely phaaast and accurate  

[speedheat 6,073]

38 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him.

But to be honest, whatever little of insta videos I have seen of shivam mavi , he looks faster than ishan 

[rkt.india 9,629]

2 minutes ago, speedheat said:

But to be honest, whatever little of insta videos I have seen of shivam mavi , he looks faster than ishan 

Not really. Show me one bouncer like Porel. Porel's bouncers are distinctly quicker. Probably one of the quickest from any Indian bowler.

[Vilander 5,969]

he looks visibly very quick...not sure if its camera angle but looks pretty quick. Nice. 

[Ankit_sharma03 10,324]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

 

Not sure about 150k but this shud be around 145k.

 

But there is something awkward in his follow through

[Vilander 5,969]

to me he looks high 130's -- 138-140 in the videos..but thats quick for 19 years and his bouncers were making the batsman squirm..could become a 145-150+ bowler..bit like Ishant in pace.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Vilander

[express bowling 21,727]

In a way, it is good that there were no speed guns in the Ranji games

 

Domestic speed-guns give lower readings and people get wrong impressions.

 

Shardul struggles to cross 140 k in domestic games but touched 147 k on India debut and 145 k in the IPL.

 

Umesh bowled upto 141 k in the Duleep Trophy in 2011 but touched 148 k on India debut same year.

 

etc.  etc.

Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling

[the don 49]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him.

Muhammad amir clocked 152 kph at 17

[NameGoesHere 845]

29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Not sure about 150k but this shud be around 145k.

 

But there is something awkward in his follow through

I thought I noticed it too, but it's not just the follow through.  If you freeze it at around the 27 and 28 seconds mark in the video you quoted, and play it a few times, his head has dipped and he seems to be looking down at the pitch as he moves in to deliver the ball. 

 

Is it because he's bowling the effort ball?  Dunno.  IMO it's very unusual, not something I have witnessed before in another bowler, but I'm no expert. Maybe many of 'em do it. 

 

But I do think that if a batsman decided to do something different (step up, step back etc) when Porel's at this stage in his delivery, it will be very hard for Porel to react and change what he's bowling. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by NameGoesHere

[the don 49]

Has he been clocked ?? 

That certainly does not look 150 kph .

He has good attributes though . Quite a bit to work with.

[express bowling 21,727]

Porel has got many of his bouncers to seam in too 

 

Like we see in the video below

 

If he can preserve this delivery, it will get him lots of wickets in the future

 

 

 

[express bowling 21,727]

This is steep bounce.  The ball is not even that short.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling

[express bowling 21,727]

Porel's 4 wickets today

 

http://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/series/ishan-porels-4for-vs-vidarbha/2001605088

[vayuu1 953]

Is it me, who thinks his action is more like Courtney Walsh.

 

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[Silva 271]

Looks like he has that aktar/bumrah hyperextension. Thats probably where he gets some of that extra bounce. Great procpect.

[Vilander 5,969]

7 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

Is it me, who thinks his action is more like Courtney Walsh.

 

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its just you..

[Vilander 5,969]

Akthar Walsh 150k.

 

good. ICF hype in full effect.  

[King Tendulkar 2,850]

Let’s get this lad on a speed gun 

[Silva 271]

4 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Akthar Walsh 150k.

 

good. ICF hype in full effect.  

Are u saying he doesnt have hyperextension? 

[Vilander 5,969]

5 minutes ago, Silva said:

Are u saying he doesnt have hyperextension? 

no idea, cant tell with the videos. where did you see the akthar like hyper extention. 

[beetle 11,798]

Bechara.....already so much hype.

If he bowls 140 in the next match..people will say , yeh to trundler nikla.

Edited November 10, 2017 by beetle