rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 He retired hurt a set Batsman hitting him twice flush on the helmet. Will post those videos tomorrow. You know when a guy can bowl like this in his 30th over of the innings then that guy is extra special. He h it the batsman twice in his 30th over. Hit him before he could react. just too quick for even a set batsman. this full length delivery just too quick for this middle order batsman, Apoorva Wankhede who was a part of Mumbai Indians squad before. 4 1 3 nevada, abc, speedheat and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post
sandeep 8,186 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers. 2 Peshust and LORD_analyst reacted to this Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers. He ended up with 4 wickets on FC debut bowling on a docile pitch. First day was bad for them but today they picked 9 wickets for 220 odd rubs and he himself got 4 wickets for 70 odd odd runs today. Yesterday, I would say there were nerves of debut but he came back well today. Bowled 40 plus overs in the innings and was still bowling fast making the Batsman hop around in his 42nd over that shows the kid has good stamina. 2 Rightarmfast and tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post
chapetmarunga 81 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 150kph- itni bhi lambi mat pheko bhai 1 Peshust reacted to this Share this post Link to post
renjith 298 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) hard to say if its 150. should be around 140. Edited November 10, 2017 by renjith Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Just now, chapetmarunga said: 150kph- itni bhi lambi mat pheko bhai Watch videos first Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Just now, renjith said: don't think its 150. should be around 140. He is certainly in 90 mph plus. Share this post Link to post
Mosher 15,497 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Ishan is certainly quick but only a speedometer will tell us how quick. Also looks like his bouncers are a lot more pacy than his full pitched deliveries. 4 speedheat, Cricketics, tweaker and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post
speedheat 7,323 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, sandeep said: Don't want to piss on your parade, but 2/120 are also meaningful numbers. He is young and has got lively pace with accuracy 1 express bowling reacted to this Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Ishan Porel picks up 4 wickets in the first innings of his FC debut We saw some raw pace from him and atleast 50 nasty, hostile bouncers ... rising steeply and many of them seaming in. Hit a set batsman twice on the helmet in the same over. He has stamina too, and was seen bowling quick even after sending down 40 overs in 4 sessions. This is an essential quality for a test bowler. He bowled a decent line and length and did not spray the ball around. Can seam the ball both ways and gets some swing too on occasions. A tall, hit-the-deck genuine quick bowler is what we had been waiting for. He was making the batters hop and hurry with many of his good length balls too. Keeper was collecting the balls chest to head high, more often than not. Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling 1 6 mancalledsting, Mosher, Ironhide and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post
chapetmarunga 81 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Watch videos first speed gun toh nahi dikh rahi mujhe. 1 Peshust reacted to this Share this post Link to post
speedheat 7,323 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Looks more like 140+kph than 150kph, its difficult to achieve 150k at 19 1 Mosher reacted to this Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 1 minute ago, chapetmarunga said: speed gun toh nahi dikh rahi mujhe. Don't need speed gun to see if a bowler is quick or not. Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Just now, speedheat said: Looks more like 140+kph than 150kph, its difficult to achieve 150k at 19 Yes difficult but not impossible. Pat Cummins bowled 150 at 17. Nagarkoti bowled 145 at 17. James Overton bowled 150 at 19. Ishant too bowled 150 at 19. 1 tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Malcolm Merlyn 2,355 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 He isnt even 140ks.90mph at 19 will put him in express pace catagory.Remember Lee was clocked at 148ks at 18yrs. Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: He isnt even 140ks.90mph at 19 will put him in express pace catagory.Remember Lee was clocked at 148ks at 18yrs. Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him. Edited November 10, 2017 by rkt.india 1 1 Rightarmfast and speedheat reacted to this Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 He was bowling with dinda and Kanishk who bowls 135. Dinda hits 135+ too. None of those two made Batsmen hope around. He looked quicker than even Lalit who bowled as quick as Umesh in the Ranji game they played together. He hit a set Batsman on the helmet twice, got retired hurt. He is full deliveries will be around 140 but short ones are certainly 90 mph plus. This is the quickest I have seen an indian bowler bowl this domestic season and I saw Umesh Yadav bowl too for Vidarbha. Found Ishan quicker. 1 2 vishalvirsingh, Rightarmfast and Vilander reacted to this Share this post Link to post
jusarrived 2,124 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Normally dont buy into pace bowler hype , but he looks like an exciting prospect . The flat pitch makes it seem like hes bowling in high 130s , but thats genuine pace and very impressive for a 19 year old . 1 LORD_analyst reacted to this Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s. Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s. Aaron, when he gets a chance and Md. Shami among our current quicks. Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and Kulwant Khejroliya. Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters. 4 Vk1, OpeningBatsman, Rightarmfast and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Trichromatic 4,621 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s. Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s. Aaron, when he gets a chance and Md. Shami among our current quicks. Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and Kulwant Khejroliya. Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters. Don't get hype for Munaf. Fastest he bowled was 145 which Nehra, Zak, Agarkar all had bowled multiple times. Share this post Link to post
chapetmarunga 81 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He was bowling with dinda and Kanishk who bowls 135. Dinda hits 135+ too. None of those two made Batsmen hope around. He looked quicker than even Lalit who bowled as quick as Umesh in the Ranji game they played together. He hit a set Batsman on the helmet twice, got retired hurt. He is full deliveries will be around 140 but short ones are certainly 90 mph plus. This is the quickest I have seen an indian bowler bowl this domestic season and I saw Umesh Yadav bowl too for Vidarbha. Found Ishan quicker. Lalit was not as fast as Umesh. Dinda bowls 125kph in domestics. Ishan maybe fast but I'd reckon around high 130s to early 140s kph at most not really 150kph Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 I am not sure what exact speeds Porel was bowling at .... but he was very bouncy and hostile and definitely much quicker than Dinda ( who is fast-medium ). 1 1 Rightarmfast and Mosher reacted to this Share this post Link to post
gakgupta 1,196 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: I like hostile fast bowlers. They put the fear of injury in the minds of opposition batters and help their team gain psychological advantage unless they are spray-guns. Srinath was such a quick for around 8 years in the '90s. Munaf for a couple of years in the mid 2000s. Aaron, when he gets a chance and Md. Shami among our current quicks. Ishan Porel may continue this legacy. Other uncapped contenders are Avesh Khan and Kulwant Khejroliya. Fast bowling in the pre-speedgun days was all about hostility .... no-one knew what speeds they bowled at but fast bowlers were those who were physically feared by batters. what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Don't get hype for Munaf. Fastest he bowled was 145 which Nehra, Zak, Agarkar all had bowled multiple times. Not talking necessarily about very high release speeds .... but about hostility which results from ..... steep bounce + zip off the deck + wanting to bowl short and at the batsman's body + sufficient accuracy with the shorter balls + good pace. Share this post Link to post
Mosher 15,497 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, gakgupta said: what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too Nathu? He is injured. 1 express bowling reacted to this Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, gakgupta said: what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too Nathu is quick but I don't know whether he has the propensity to bowl threatening the batsman's body, ball after ball. Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, gakgupta said: what happened to that rajasthan guy?? He should be there in the list too Yes, he too. Still rehabbing after a back injury. Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, chapetmarunga said: Lalit was not as fast as Umesh. Dinda bowls 125kph in domestics. Ishan maybe fast but I'd reckon around high 130s to early 140s kph at most not really 150kph Yes Lalit was. Check comments on Ranji thread. We were watching that game live and didn't find much difference pace of both. Even if not as quick as Umesh, Lalit still hits 140kph and Porel looked quicker than him visibly. Share this post Link to post
speedheat 7,323 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 So finally we are producing young pacer who are genuinely phaaast and accurate 1 1 Mosher and express bowling reacted to this Share this post Link to post
speedheat 7,323 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him. But to be honest, whatever little of insta videos I have seen of shivam mavi , he looks faster than ishan Share this post Link to post
rkt.india 11,896 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: But to be honest, whatever little of insta videos I have seen of shivam mavi , he looks faster than ishan Not really. Show me one bouncer like Porel. Porel's bouncers are distinctly quicker. Probably one of the quickest from any Indian bowler. Share this post Link to post
Vilander 7,356 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 he looks visibly very quick...not sure if its camera angle but looks pretty quick. Nice. 1 Rightarmfast reacted to this Share this post Link to post
Ankit_sharma03 12,879 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Not sure about 150k but this shud be around 145k. But there is something awkward in his follow through Share this post Link to post
Vilander 7,356 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) to me he looks high 130's -- 138-140 in the videos..but thats quick for 19 years and his bouncers were making the batsman squirm..could become a 145-150+ bowler..bit like Ishant in pace. Edited November 10, 2017 by Vilander Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) In a way, it is good that there were no speed guns in the Ranji games Domestic speed-guns give lower readings and people get wrong impressions. Shardul struggles to cross 140 k in domestic games but touched 147 k on India debut and 145 k in the IPL. Umesh bowled upto 141 k in the Duleep Trophy in 2011 but touched 148 k on India debut same year. etc. etc. Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling 1 2 Ironhide, speedheat and Rightarmfast reacted to this Share this post Link to post
the don 52 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Cummins was clocked 150 at 17, Ishant 152 at 19, Overton 150 at 19. Ishan is supposedly an express bowler. Ganguly had special words about him. Muhammad amir clocked 152 kph at 17 1 Peshust reacted to this Share this post Link to post
NameGoesHere 856 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Not sure about 150k but this shud be around 145k. But there is something awkward in his follow through I thought I noticed it too, but it's not just the follow through. If you freeze it at around the 27 and 28 seconds mark in the video you quoted, and play it a few times, his head has dipped and he seems to be looking down at the pitch as he moves in to deliver the ball. Is it because he's bowling the effort ball? Dunno. IMO it's very unusual, not something I have witnessed before in another bowler, but I'm no expert. Maybe many of 'em do it. But I do think that if a batsman decided to do something different (step up, step back etc) when Porel's at this stage in his delivery, it will be very hard for Porel to react and change what he's bowling. Edited November 10, 2017 by NameGoesHere 1 tweaker reacted to this Share this post Link to post
the don 52 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Has he been clocked ?? That certainly does not look 150 kph . He has good attributes though . Quite a bit to work with. Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Porel has got many of his bouncers to seam in too Like we see in the video below If he can preserve this delivery, it will get him lots of wickets in the future 3 Mosher, pindxb and RAZPOR reacted to this Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) This is steep bounce. The ball is not even that short. Edited November 10, 2017 by express bowling Share this post Link to post
express bowling 25,651 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Porel's 4 wickets today http://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/series/ishan-porels-4for-vs-vidarbha/2001605088 Share this post Link to post
vayuu1 1,241 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Is it me, who thinks his action is more like Courtney Walsh. Sent from my Redmi 4A using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post
Silva 271 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Looks like he has that aktar/bumrah hyperextension. Thats probably where he gets some of that extra bounce. Great procpect. Share this post Link to post
Vilander 7,356 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: Is it me, who thinks his action is more like Courtney Walsh. Sent from my Redmi 4A using Tapatalk its just you.. Share this post Link to post
Vilander 7,356 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Akthar Walsh 150k. good. ICF hype in full effect. Share this post Link to post
King Tendulkar 3,464 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Let’s get this lad on a speed gun Share this post Link to post
Silva 271 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Vilander said: Akthar Walsh 150k. good. ICF hype in full effect. Are u saying he doesnt have hyperextension? Share this post Link to post
Vilander 7,356 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Silva said: Are u saying he doesnt have hyperextension? no idea, cant tell with the videos. where did you see the akthar like hyper extention. Share this post Link to post
beetle 14,239 Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Bechara.....already so much hype. If he bowls 140 in the next match..people will say , yeh to trundler nikla. Edited November 10, 2017 by beetle 1 Vilander reacted to this Share this post Link to post