velu Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Quote MS Dhoni's future has been a topic of great interest in recent weeks and the former India captain finally broke his silence over the matter by saying that "everybody has views in life and it should be respected". Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri and Virat Kohli had come out in fierce support of Dhoni and now World Cup-winning captain Kapil Dev has staunchly defended the wicket keeper batsman. Kapil Dev cited Sachin Tendulkar's example of winning the World Cup at the age of 38 to lend his support to Dhoni. "I do not understand why so many people are on his back after a couple of average performances. Age definitely doesn't have anything to do with it," Kapil Dev was quoted as saying by The Times of India. "Sachin was 38 when we won the World Cup and nobody was saying anything then," he added. Twitter was in full agreement with Kapil Dev's comments. https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/kapil-dev-lends-support-to-ms-dhoni-cites-sachin-tendulkars-example-1774475 Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 "Kapil Dev was another who played on for a bit too long. Towards the end he had only the magic figure of 432 to spur him on. Having crossed that, he played in only one more Test and a handful of ODI's before realizing that after 16 years of top level cricket, age had finally caught up with him. He however endured one last humiliation at the hands of young West Indian openers Simmons and Williams. He was mauled for 37 runs in five overs in what turned out to be his final international appearance at Faridabad in his home state of Haryana. " Laaloo, express bowling and Jimmy Cliff 1 2 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Kapil dev just did an advertisement with Dhoni. That explains . Laaloo, King Tendulkar, express bowling and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, velu said: "Sachin was 38 when we won the World Cup and nobody was saying anything then," he added. Err...that's because he had a great run in ODIs from late 2007 up until the WC and was the 2nd highest scorer in the WC itself. No one would be complaining if Dhoni was performing at a similar level. Laaloo, Rasgulla, King Tendulkar and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Err...that's because he had a great run in ODIs from late 2007 up until the WC and was the 2nd highest scorer in the WC itself. No one would be complaining if Dhoni was performing at a similar level. He has no business staying in the team after 2005.. He is useless and overrated as always.. He blocked Dhawans place for years.Dhawan proved his worth in 1st ICC tour itself while on other side sachin always choked and costed India more matches with his yuk tuk innings on top where yuvi and Dhoni has to finish it off everytime. Sachin was a flop in T20s with SR of 120 in IPL. DHONI in 2017 has better average and SR than sachin ever did in his career. So your last line is basically false. Edited November 12, 2017 by Rasgulla Jimmy Cliff, Vilander and King Tendulkar 2 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: He has no business staying in the team after 2005.. He is useless and overrated as always.. He blocked Dhawans place for years.Dhawan proved his worth in 1st ICC tour itself while on other side sachin always choked and costed India more matches with his yuk tuk innings on top where yuvi and Dhoni has to finish it off everytime. Lol Dhawan, whats next? He blocked Rayadu place. speedheat 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, wanted_desi said: Lol Dhawan, whats next? He blocked Rayadu place. He blocked manjrekars place in the 90s Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, beetle said: Kapil dev just did an advertisement with Dhoni. That explains . speedheat and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wanted_desi said: Lol Dhawan, whats next? He blocked Rayadu place. Doesn't Dhawan have almost Same average and defo has better SR than sachi Infact his record in ICC tours in way better than sachin. Just the truth.... Edited November 12, 2017 by Rasgulla Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Doesn't Dhawan have almost Same average and defo has better SR than sachi Infact his record in ICC tours in way better than sachin. Just the truth.... Looool same Sachin who in 2 world cups was top scorer in whole tournament . Loool Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: He has no business staying in the team after 2005.. He is useless and overrated as always.. He blocked Dhawans place for years. False. Post 2005, he helped us win series in AUS/NZ/SL and was our top scorer in 2011 WC and delivered in 2 off the 3 KO games. 14 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Dhawan proved his worth in 1st ICC tour itself while on other side sachin always choked and costed India more matches with his yuk tuk innings on top where yuvi and Dhoni has to finish it off everytime. Prove it. Give us a list of innings where his tuk tuk cost us the game. For every 114 (147) there is a 54 (114) by Dhoni and more. Post 2013 Yuvi and Dhoni have been finishing off our chances more often than not. I would be more than willing to come up with a list of dire knocks by Dhoni where his SR cost us games in LOIs. 17 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Sachin was a flop in T20s with SR of 120 in IPL. Irrelevant. 18 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: DHONI in 2017 has better average and SR than sachin ever did in his career. So your last line is basically false. Dhoni in the last 2 years has had a SR of 82 against non minnows in ODIs. Only Rahane has been worse. In the last 10 years he has a significantly worse SR than SRT against non minnows. Even worse than Rohit. Embarrassing really. But yeah he's done a good job with all his not outs bloating his average in useless bilaterals. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: Looool same Sachin who in 2 world cups was top scorer in whole tournament . Loool Lol at the fact we lost 2003 because he choked in Finals and also LOL at the fact Yuvi was MOS in 2011 whereas Dhawan was MOS in 2013 CT and we won it. He was highest scorer for India even in 2015WC. Dhawan > sachin anyday Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Doesn't Dhawan have almost Same average and defo has better SR than sachi Infact his record in ICC tours in way better than sachin. Just the truth.... Dhawan got higher SR than Sir Viv as well. Dhawan >> Sir Viv King Tendulkar, speedheat and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, wanted_desi said: Dhawan got higher SR than Sir Viv as well. Dhawan >> Sir Viv Martin Guptill has a better avg and SR than Lara. Guptill >> Lara. Rohit has a better avg and SR than Ponting. KT was on to something when he said Rohit Sharma is class and Ponting is mediocre. speedheat and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, wanted_desi said: Dhawan got higher SR than Sir Viv as well. Dhawan >> Sir Viv now go back to 1907 to find someone and compare him. Anything to back that overrated player. If I go by your logic I ll find tons of stats where others have better stats than sachin. Fact is he has been useless for way too long if people didn't complain then they should have no right to complain now. Simple as that... Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: False. Post 2005, he helped us win series in AUS/NZ/SL and was our top scorer in 2011 WC and delivered in 2 off the 3 KO games. Prove it. Give us a list of innings where his tuk tuk cost us the game. For every 114 (147) there is a 54 (114) by Dhoni and more. Post 2013 Yuvi and Dhoni have been finishing off our chances more often than not. I would be more than willing to come up with a list of dire knocks by Dhoni where his SR cost us games in LOIs. Irrelevant. Dhoni in the last 2 years has had a SR of 82 against non minnows in ODIs. Only Rahane has been worse. In the last 10 years he has a significantly worse SR than SRT against non minnows. Even worse than Rohit. Embarrassing really. But yeah he's done a good job with all his not outs bloating his average in useless bilaterals. Bhai, he himself don't know what he is posting and what he wants and you are asking him to prove?? Lol, he is just a chat bot with manufacturing defects. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, speedheat said: Bhai, he himself don't know what he is posting and what he wants and you are asking him to prove?? Lol, he is just a chat bot with manufacturing defects. Sachin PR bot is here for backup blah blah blah.. missed software update by almost 3 months Link to comment
velu Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 sehwag shastri gavaskar now kapil Rasgulla and Vilander 2 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, speedheat said: Bhai, he himself don't know what he is posting and what he wants and you are asking him to prove?? Lol, he is just a chat bot with manufacturing defects. Well I'd like to believe we are all India fans before being fans of a certain player. Perhaps he missed SRT's best phase so he only remembers his last couple of years. Or maybe he has a few illuminating stats up his sleeve that support his claims. I am always willing to be persuaded if the arguments are backed up by facts. Edited November 12, 2017 by Jimmy Cliff Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: False. Post 2005, he helped us win series in AUS/NZ/SL and was our top scorer in 2011 WC and delivered in 2 off the 3 KO games Gambhir was highest scorer in 2008 CB series in AUS not him.. He had help from Dhoni in that series where he averages 69. Yuvi was MOS not Sachin in 2011 when we need him the most he choked under pressure as always. Like I already said Dhawan was MOS in CT 2013 AND WE WON. He was our highest scorer in 2015 WC as well. 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: For every 114 (147) there is a 54 (114) by Dhoni and more Now prove that.. apparently SR doesn't matter for Dhawan and sachin comparison but when it's get to Dhoni it does ??? 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: would be more than willing to come up with a list of dire knocks by Dhoni where his SR cost us games in LOIs. 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Irrelevant. How is that irrelevant ? He was a crap t20 player and his SR in usually as bad as Dhawan in T20s 23 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Dhoni in the last 2 years has had a SR of 82 against non minnows in ODIs. Only Rahane has been worse. In the last 10 years he has a significantly worse SR than SRT against non minnows. Even worse than Rohit. Embarrassing really. But yeah he's done a good job with all his not outs bloating his average in useless bilaterals Sachin has 12 to 14 100s against Namibia kenya zim and BD in Odis.. I m sure if we remove those teams and check his SR it would be worse than cricbuzz is saying for overall... you are using SR here according to your convenience I see.. Link to comment
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