bhakum20 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Ind-SL at Eden gardens has proven to be a good wake up call in terms of who our pacers should be for the important away tours. Are there any players that are worth being drafted from state-level? Pool: Shami Bhuvi Umesh Ishant Pandya Bumrah Re: Umesh, if you look at his stats they’re similar to Ishant. Ishant has terrible stats by being ‘unlucky’, and Yadav by being ‘brainless’, so not much difference between the two. If we can support Ishant for 10 years, we can give maybe another year to Umesh to sort out his stuff. Maybe needs to go to county to hone his skills. Bumrah is the wild card, I’m not sure why the management/captain hasn’t selected him for any tests; his first class record looks great so there’s no reason why he can’t be a “test-level” bowler. So which state-level bowler is a possible draft to the test side? Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My starting bowlers are Bhuvi, Shami and Bumrah. Ishant should go as back up, thats about it. Untill then, let him toil hard in Ranji where he is doing well right now. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, bhakum20 said: So which state-level bowler is a possible draft to the test side? Watched Sudeep Tyagi yesterday, who was looking good. He returned after a long time and is doing well. I won’t mind seeing him even though its too early but I wish they can try someone like Sudeep Tyagi in the 2nd test. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh and Bumrah should go. Probably the bowling coach should do something about Umesh. He needs to get his bowling sorted out. Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cricketics said: My starting bowlers are Bhuvi, Shami and Bumrah. Ishant should go as back up, thats about it. Untill then, let him toil hard in Ranji where he is doing well right now. TBH I don’t think toiling hard in ranji improves his game at all. At best it keeps him match fit. Heard some good things about sudip tyagi in the ranji thread but he’s already 30 so doubt if he will be drafted now. Link to comment
fineleg Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Shami (if 100% fit) Bhuvi Bumrah (Tests in SA) Hardik Pandya (allrounder) squad can have Ishant and spraygun UY if needed. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, bhakum20 said: TBH I don’t think toiling hard in ranji improves his game at all. At best it keeps him match fit. Heard some good things about sudip tyagi in the ranji thread but he’s already 30 so doubt if he will be drafted now. Ya but every tour we take Ishant and then we curse him badly. Its fine to have him around but not play him right now and just take him as back up for south african tour like I mentioned above. Tyagi is 28, and still not too old. Age of 30 btw, isn’t too old if a bowler is bowling well. Even if he can give 2-3 years, then its fine. Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh and Bumrah should go. Probably the bowling coach should do something about Umesh. He needs to get his bowling sorted out. Bowling coach needs to come down hard on him, how can you not bowl accurately after all these years. If I had his raw talent I would work my ass off to become the best Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh and Bumrah should go. Probably the bowling coach should do something about Umesh. He needs to get his bowling sorted out. how long are we going to say this thing about Umesh. He is just too unreliable to be played. Edited November 19, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
tweaker Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Selector should try left arm pacer Aniket Chaudhary in this series. Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: how long are we going to say this thing about Umesh. He is just to unreliable to played. I can sense your disappointment, we all have high hopes from him. So apart from Tyagi, any other uncapped players look promising in ranji? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) even club bowlers bowl far more accurately than him. I am really upset since i saw that pitch map of him today morning. nothing in good length on this pitch, either short or full. he just ruined everything after they were 201/7. I bet Bumrah would have wreaked havoc on this pitch. Edited November 19, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, bhakum20 said: I can sense your disappointment, we all have high hopes from him. So apart from Tyagi, any other uncapped players look promising in ranji? Lalit Yadav but he is quite young and may not be ready right now but we can have him in the squad. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 For a place like SA, we need bowlers who can consistently bowl in good length area without experimenting much. Even Shami at times struggle in that aspect. Someone like Navdeep Saini can be an option too. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We can't take a rookie pacer to SA. Bumrah is the only option. Apart from Panda. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: We can't take a rookie pacer to SA. Bumrah is the only option. Apart from Panda. Bumrah is a rookie too and Navdeep has played in SA with India A and did well. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Bumrah is a rookie too and Navdeep has played in SA with India A and did well. Bumrah at least has some international experience. We know what to expect from him. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Bumrah at least has some international experience. We know what to expect from him. someone has to debut somewhere. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, tweaker said: Selector should try left arm pacer Aniket Chaudhary in this series. Siraj is better bowler than aniket and ankit. I would play him ahead of shardul as backup pacer. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: someone has to debut somewhere. Somewhere is the current series, than SA. Link to comment
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