Singh bling Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/padmavati-row-haryana-bjp-leader-announces-rs-10-crore-reward-for-beheading-deepika-padukone-bhansali/story-SNu3xwOyMQmJU3fNzbSVyL.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 One needs to understand that issuing fatwas to kill is like openly offering supari Ind needs a law that stops ppl from issuing such fatwas Turning_track and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Ullu ka pattha! He should be waiting for his arrest warrant at home now. These attention whores will do anything for a bit of spot light. Muloghonto and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapetmarunga Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) ab toh film dekhni hi padegi. Dont let g@ndus like them win. Hope he gets trashed in all elections Edited November 20, 2017 by chapetmarunga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Extremist rascal. Pretty sure BJP won't lift a finger, Hindutva extremism has become the order of the day...it always existed but now has backing from the government. Where is this country heading? Book_Worm and Turning_track 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: Extremist rascal. Pretty sure BJP won't lift a finger, Hindutva extremism has become the order of the day...it always existed but now has backing from the government. Where is this country heading? Not enough. Arrest and sentence for offering incentive for murder should be the charge. 10 years and throw the key away. This is pretty straightforward criminal incitement and would be an acid test on BJP- whether they aid and abet criminals like this chap or let justice take its course. This cannot be ignored by any credible government, because the primary job of the government, first and foremost, is to provide security for its citizens. Tolerance of criminal incitement of murder, is by definition, the most basic failure of the government. Edited November 20, 2017 by Muloghonto beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Muloghonto said: Not enough. Arrest and sentence for offering incentive for murder should be the charge. 10 years and throw the key away. This is pretty straightforward criminal incitement and would be an acid test on BJP- whether they aid and abet criminals like this chap or let justice take its course. We both know that is not going to happen. BJP is not going to deliver a New India however hard Modi and bhakts try to advertise that term. They may be less corrupt and less treacherous (w.r.t national security) than the other parties but the closing of the Indian mind and imposed conformity will be a much more severe blow on India's future than any scam or policy faults in the 1947-2014 period. sensible-indian, Alam_dar and Book_Worm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Gollum said: We both know that is not going to happen. BJP is not going to deliver a New India however hard Modi and bhakts try to advertise that term. They may be less corrupt and less treacherous (w.r.t national security) than the other parties but the closing of the Indian mind and imposed conformity will be a much more severe blow on India's future than any scam or policy faults in the 1947-2014 period. That's a pessimistic view. There are many positives changes happening in our country, society and people. Peshust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, someone said: That's a pessimistic view. There are many positives changes happening in our country, society and people. I am a pessimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Damn that is 1.5 million usd.....is first class air fare part of the deal? Laaloo and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Bhansali is a moron & Deepika always tries to fan some controversy before release of her movie. Typical Bollywood, her 'Not my choice' video was a show off. Our country has a lot of women who are true examples of women empowerment and feminism. But I do support the artists ability to express themselves in a proper manner. These extremist d******ds from BJP and other right wing groups bring a lot of negativity and bad name to India and its citizens. Arrest him and others who issue fatwas and punish all of these idiots. India cannot be held hostage by religious THEKEDARS and their few thousand supporters. All political parties use these nut jobs to their advantage. So ordinary people and those who want to bring reform in our society will always be at risk. beetle and GoldenSun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 13 hours ago, Turning_track said: Bhansali is a moron & Deepika always tries to fan some controversy before release of her movie. Typical Bollywood, her 'Not my choice' video was a show off. Our country has a lot of women who are true examples of women empowerment and feminism. But I do support the artists ability to express themselves in a proper manner. These extremist d******ds from BJP and other right wing groups bring a lot of negativity and bad name to India and its citizens. Arrest him and others who issue fatwas and punish all of these idiots. India cannot be held hostage by religious THEKEDARS and their few thousand supporters. All political parties use these nut jobs to their advantage. So ordinary people and those who want to bring reform in our society will always be at risk. N how is bhansali a moron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: N how is bhansali a moron? Presenting one of the most finest generals in India as some drunken Devdas and plagiarising famous novels, movies to make it as Bollywood masala flick. No wonder in India only, he's called as the finest filmmakers of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Turning_track said: Presenting one of the most finest generals in India as some drunken Devdas and plagiarising famous novels, movies to make it as Bollywood masala flick. No wonder in India only, he's called as the finest filmmakers of his time. How many Indians knew about Bajirao before the film and how many now know about him after the film .No doubt films add lots of masala but they are great way to tell people about historical figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 57 minutes ago, Singh bling said: How many Indians knew about Bajirao before the film and how many now know about him after the film .No doubt films add lots of masala but they are great way to tell people about historical figures Most of them didn't knew about him, except the Maharashtrians. Yes, it's a great way of depicting historical figures. But the film didn't do any justice to him at all. Distorting facts has been done routinely by the filmmakers while making period films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Turning_track said: Presenting one of the most finest generals in India as some drunken Devdas and plagiarising famous novels, movies to make it as Bollywood masala flick. No wonder in India only, he's called as the finest filmmakers of his time. 13 minutes ago, Turning_track said: Most of them didn't knew about him, except the Maharashtrians. Yes, it's a great way of depicting historical figures. But the film didn't do any justice to him at all. Distorting facts has been done routinely by the filmmakers while making period films. Well if u want to see absolute facts go watch documentries, Films are about drama and for that creative liberties are taken And its very to say for a layman to say this or that shud be done, creativity is the most toughest thing were nothing is wrong or right . He is called finest coz of his aesthetic sense and i can go on n on about his work. Tum logo picture bhi dekhna hai, gaali bhi deni hai..........nahin samjh aata filmen to jaake documentry dekho . Book_Worm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Turning_track said: Presenting one of the most finest generals in India as some drunken Devdas and plagiarising famous novels, movies to make it as Bollywood masala flick. No wonder in India only, he's called as the finest filmmakers of his time. Not just in India. A good filmmaker is one who has good continuity to the story, good castings,good dialogue and above all, good cinematography. Whether the story is plagiarized, wrong, fictional, twisted or not, literally has zero bearing on a film maker. Because thats the difference between a documentary maker and a film maker. PS: Bajirao Mastani was a standard-fare masala movie, but having watched it, Jodhaa Akbar & Ashoka, i think Indian producers simply have zero confidence on a movie that isn't 'riveting drama/masala romance' formula. Ie, a movie like 300 is simply not something Indian movie-makers like. And without a movie that is 90% focussed on 'battlefield tactics & pre-battle conferences', you cannot do justice to the likes of Bajirao and his ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Quote Well if u want to see absolute facts go watch documentries, Films are about drama and for that creative liberties are taken What I meant in my previous post was Bajirao need not to be remembered via Mastani. She was a part of his life, agreed. But the greatest disservice SLB has done to him is string him completely with Mastani. This is distorting, not taking creative liberties. What is the story of Achilles if the filmmaker is overly possessed in the desire to show him with Patroclus or Briesis? Quote creativity is the most toughest thing were nothing is wrong or right . He is called finest coz of his aesthetic sense and i can go on n on about his work. Yes he showed lot of his creativity while copying & not even crediting Dostoevsky or the other filmmakers.http://awni-naisha.blogspot.in/2014/10/5-times-sanjay-leela-bhansali-got.html Quote Tum logo picture bhi dekhna hai, gaali bhi deni hai..........nahin samjh aata filmen to jaake documentry dekho . Mainstream commercial cinema can be entertaining & knowledgeable also. Gaali dene layak kaam karega to gaali khaega bhi. If you are so much into SLB's aesthetic sense of movie making, then please continue watching it than telling me to watch documentaries. @Ankit_sharma03 Edited November 22, 2017 by Turning_track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, Turning_track said: Most of them didn't knew about him, except the Maharashtrians. Yes, it's a great way of depicting historical figures. But the film didn't do any justice to him at all. Distorting facts has been done routinely by the filmmakers while making period films. They are making film. Not documentary. Almost every historical film has had 'liberties' taken with the original story, including in Hollywood. And Bajirao/Marathas are not alone in this. Not many know of Ranjit Singh's or Lachit Borpukhan's generalship (the latter, IMO is the best Indian general of the last 400 years, till modern warfare times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Not just in India. A good filmmaker is one who has good continuity to the story, good castings,good dialogue and above all, good cinematography. Whether the story is plagiarized, wrong, fictional, twisted or not, literally has zero bearing on a film maker. Because thats the difference between a documentary maker and a film maker. PS: Bajirao Mastani was a standard-fare masala movie, but having watched it, Jodhaa Akbar & Ashoka, i think Indian producers simply have zero confidence on a movie that isn't 'riveting drama/masala romance' formula. Ie, a movie like 300 is simply not something Indian movie-makers like. And without a movie that is 90% focussed on 'battlefield tactics & pre-battle conferences', you cannot do justice to the likes of Bajirao and his ilk. You've made a good point. They (most of them) don't even try to find anything beyond pyar masala types.But I want these desi filmmakers to give proper credit to original makers from whom they've creatively inspired/ copied or whatever. This is a standard procedure among the Bollywood filmmakers which is intellectual dishonesty & further allows the paid media to compare these people to legendary directors and what not. Edited November 22, 2017 by Turning_track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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