speedheat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, New guy said: Bhuvi used to bowl 6-7 overs under Dhoni per match. Never used to be given death overs at all. Yes , some lallu pallus like raina and binnys were bowling at the death under his glorious captaincy, bhuvi answered him perfectly by drastically improving his pace and death bowlung New guy and LORD_analyst 1 1 Link to comment
Shunya Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No difference between Yadav and Ishant now...Phassstt brigade will continue to hype him and he will be called unlucky... Regressing or not under Kohli is pointless. He has to be smart enough to improvise and learn by himself at this stage. Dhoni was not good for fast bowler is just a random BS theory some haters want to use for their agenda. Everyone in this team have risen through ranks under Dhoni's tenure including Kohli. Captain can only do certain things. Its a *ing international game. Players have to be smart enough to learn with experience. Dhoni did his job well & Kohli is doing his job pretty good. New guy, Rasgulla and Forever Indian 3 Link to comment
velu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, speedheat said: Yes , some lallu pallus like raina and binnys were bowling at the death under his glorious captaincy, bhuvi answered him perfectly by drastically improving his pace and death bowlung yep .. raina and binnys are replaced by jadhavs who is slower than aina and binny these haterz Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: yeah ishant sharma was used by dhoni as death over specialist...lol Still remember the Faulkner massacre. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: yeah ishant sharma was used by dhoni as death over specialist...lol Boot lickers were preferred lol captain fatty ka kamal see the pic velu, LordPrabhzy, Laaloo and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, velu said: yep .. raina and binnys are replaced by jadhavs who is slower than aina and binny these haterz Suckerzzz bhuvi and bumrah are the best in death overs under captain kohli ... Do you remember Faulkner's massacre and dhonis face that day??? Lol Edited November 20, 2017 by speedheat Link to comment
MCcricket Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: He was such a good prospect. He could move ball both ways and reverse the ball at pace. Hardly any Indian pacer had those skills right at start of career. Under Dhoni he took 40 wickets at avg of 31 in 10 matches. After that somehow he has regressed under Kohli. 23 matches 49 wickets at avg of 40, and 0 5-fer. Played 1 match under Rahane and picked 5 wickets in that match. Boss what r u smoking sure seems good, after having most success n finding most success under Kohli in last few years, he comes back cold n is outta rhythm n who should we blame, lol. Umesh will always be a average bowler some day n good bowler some day , he is not a Shami or Bhuvi, his USP was pace n now that has regressed n he has lost his sting. One cannot cast away a player after one odd average game but selectors need to look at Bumrah, Ankit, Aniket, Aaron,Umesh is no longer a rookie n he should raise his game . Cricketics and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment
velu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, MCcricket said: Boss what r u smoking sure seems good, after having most success n finding most success under Kohli in last few years, he comes back cold n is outta rhythm n who should we blame, lol. Umesh will always be a average bowler some day n good bowler some day , he is not a Shami or Bhuvi, his USP was pace n now that has regressed n he has lost his sting. One cannot cast away a player after one odd average game but selectors need to look at Bumrah, Ankit, Aniket, Aaron,Umesh is no longer a rookie n he should raise his game . averaged 31 under captain x.. avergaing 39 under captain y.. keep smoking the same stuff Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Sometimes I just don't get it. Umesh hasn't bowled great this match and people want Ishant. Once Ishant is picked and does bad as he usually does then Umesh would have been better on this/that pitch and so on. Already said the amount of chances that Umesh, Ishant, bhuvi, Jadeja and Rohit has got it's unfair on part of many talented players in India dreaming of donning Indian jersey. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 54 minutes ago, speedheat said: Hahahaha best captain lol So your gawddd is wrong ? velu 1 Link to comment
velu Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Pollack said: Sometimes I just don't get it. Umesh hasn't bowled great this match and people want Ishant. Once Ishant is picked and does bad as he usually does then Umesh would have been better on this/that pitch and so on. Already said the amount of chances that Umesh, Ishant, bhuvi, Jadeja and Rohit has got it's unfair on part of many talented players in India dreaming of donning Indian jersey. no .. nobody wants ishanth dhoni fans , anti-dhoni fans , sachinstas , ant-sachinstas , ICF retards .. nobdy wants ishu back speedheat 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: He was such a good prospect. He could move ball both ways and reverse the ball at pace. Hardly any Indian pacer had those skills right at start of career. Under Dhoni he took 40 wickets at avg of 31 in 10 matches. After that somehow he has regressed under Kohli. 23 matches 49 wickets at avg of 40, and 0 5-fer. Played 1 match under Rahane and picked 5 wickets in that match. Blaming a captain or a coach is bad. This is the worst excuse. Anyways, who told you that he has regressed? The best he has bowled I have seen was under Kohli in test against Australia. He is not a kid. Playing for 7 years. Grown up people should never blame their mentor. What the hell is their mind doing. Don’t they have their own brain. They are playing international cricket. MCcricket, cowboysfan and speedheat 3 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: Blaming a captain or a coach is bad. This is the worst excuse. Anyways, who told you that he has regressed? The best he has bowled I have seen was under Kohli in test against Australia. He is not a kid. Playing for 7 years. Grown up people should never blame their mentor. What the hell is their mind doing. Don’t they have their own brain. They are playing international cricket. Those numbers. Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: So your gawddd is wrong ? So you believe that he is GOD... Mission accomplished oops... chat bot was upgrade wow! Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Those numbers. What numbers did you watch all the games and see how pathetic Umesh was earlier. Also Umesh has hardly played under Kohli overseas where bowlers generally do better. So another reason you shouod remember that under Dhoni, Umesh was poor always. Link to comment
New guy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, Pollack said: Sometimes I just don't get it. Umesh hasn't bowled great this match and people want Ishant. Once Ishant is picked and does bad as he usually does then Umesh would have been better on this/that pitch and so on. Already said the amount of chances that Umesh, Ishant, bhuvi, Jadeja and Rohit has got it's unfair on part of many talented players in India dreaming of donning Indian jersey. Bhuvi hasn't even played 1/3rd of matches Umesh has in tests. He deserves a longer run beetle 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: He never used to back Bhuvi. He publicly stated that Bhuvi was not a death over bowler. Bhuvi learnt death bowling to spite him and even said in an interview he can bowl at death. Under Dhoni it was a regular sight to see Bhuvi bowl 6-7 overs per match with not bowling at death. One of the reasons for his bad ODI average is, he never used to get a chance to get death over wickets like other bowlers So in a way you are correct. Bhuvi was a trundler under Dhoni. Under Kohli he is a proper medium pace bowler Got to admire you . you want to critisize Virat , being a Tendu fan . you want to critisize Virat the captain for backing paast bowlers , over Bhuvi , but you turn into a Virat fan when discussing Dhoni's captaincy . Now Talk about some random irrelevant stuff now . if you go back to early days Bhuvi was hardly known for his death bowling . Did you conveniently forget him conceding 100+ runs against SA ? I bet most people where criticising Dhoni for giving him 10 overs back then . Have some consistency , no one can accuse Dhoni of not backing Bhuvi . He did not trust the likes of Yaadav and for obvious reasons . And FYI under Dhoni , the matches where Bhuvi completed all his 10 overs he averaged an earth shattering 51 and guess what he averages 47 under Virat . So there goes your theory that he was robbed off wickets cos of not bowling in the death . Link to comment
jusarrived Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: Still remember the Faulkner massacre. ML Lewis 10.0 0 113 0 11.30 Australia v South Africa Johannesburg 12 Mar 2006 ODI # 2349 Wahab Riaz 10.0 0 110 0 11.00 Pakistan v England Nottingham 30 Aug 2016 ODI # 3773 B Kumar 10.0 0 106 1 10.60 India v South Africa Mumbai 25 Oct 2015 ODI # 3700 Worst bowling figures in ODI ever . Link to comment
jusarrived Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: BTW, would love to know about your opinion of Kohli taking extra over today for his 100. After all, he is Bangalore IPL captain I honestly dint watch so cant comment , if its true and there is a pattern its wrong and will get his share of criticism . you seem hurt that he got a hundred , worried he will break Tendulkars records ? lol btw you know am a fan of CSK captain . Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 this thread is laughable,to blame a captain for a poor performance in helpful conditions is sad.just look at bhuvi who is constantly working on getting better,umesh has always a sidekick his whole career.we have to seriously consider a replacement if yadav cannot contribute because a 3rd pacer who can actually take wickets is vital for SA tests. Link to comment
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