Is this worst Indian slip catching unit in tests in last 40 years? (Drop catches already cost Indian team 100+ runs by now)

[Trichromatic]

So these guys (Kohli, Dhawan, Rohit) score 300 runs in first inning and then give away 100+ free runs by dropping catches, leaving their effective value to just 200 runs. Against better teams, this goes down further ultimately costing us matches and series. 

 

This is probably worst fielding unit India is playing in last 20-30 years.

 

Edited December 4, 2017 by rkt.india

[Shunya]

Seems like captain is leading from the front in this aspect as well. Bimaari fel rahi hai sab logo mein. Everyone seems out of sorts behind the stumps including the keeper.

[rkt.india]

Worst slip catching, not worst fielding

[Trichromatic]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Worst slip catching, not worst fielding

In tests slip catching has highest impact. Diving near boundary and running fast doesn't make much difference.

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, Trichromatic said:

In tests slip catching has highest impact. Diving near boundary and running fast doesn't make much difference.

Still that is slip catching and not Fielding. This is not a poor Fielding unit but poor slip catching because slip catching is unlike Fielding anywhere as well. It is a specialist's job. We don't have any specialist slip catcher in it.

[adi B]

Ground fielding is far better than  what it was before but slip fielding has gone to dogs!!

[rkt.india]

Slip catching is a specialist position like short leg, silly point. You need specially trained fielders there. I was watching morning show and VVS told that Bob Simpson was the one who worked with him and Dravid in 1998 and that helped become very good in slips. These guys also need a Fielding coach like Simpson to work on them but alas we Sridhar.

[Gollum]

Not just India's worst this is the worst catching unit from any nation since the inception of cricket. BCCI paid chamchas keep on hyping our fielding as world class but hey why let facts get in the way, we all know what happened to Kumble only because he asked the boys to take 50 catches daily during drills. I think even our women's team have better catchers than this bunch of overhyped donkeys, Veda Krishnamurthy will wipe the floor with this unit as far as catching is concerned. In test cricket fielding=99.99% catching and 0.01% ground fielding. Most of the fans go wild when we stop a boundary and save a run but every time we drop a catch we may end up costing up to 300 runs !!!!

 

My dad is a die hard cricket fan who has been following cricket since 1969 Bill Lawry team's visit to India. Till date he keeps on moaning about our abysmal catching those days, especially under Pataudi/Wadekar reign which cost us many wins. Yesterday he said that this team beats that team hands down in the 'sucking at catching' department and that is something !!!! True cricket fans like us are losing patience with this pathetic standard while Shastri and Sridhar are laughing their way to the bank. 

Edited December 4, 2017 by Gollum

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not just India's worst this is the worst catching unit from any nation since the inception of cricket. BCCI paid chamchas keep on hyping our fielding as world class but hey why let facts get in the way, we all know what happened to Kumble only because he asked the boys to take 50 catches daily during drills. I think even our women's team have better catchers than this bunch of overhyped donkeys, Veda Krishnamurthy will wipe the floor with this unit as far as catching is concerned. In test cricket fielding=99.99% catching and 0.01% ground fielding. Most of the fans go wild when we stop a boundary and save a run but every time we drop a catch we may end up costing up to 300 runs !!!!

 

My dad is a die hard cricket fan who has been following cricket since 1969 Bill Lawry team's visit to India. Till date he keeps on moaning about our abysmal catching those days, especially under Pataudi/Wadekar reign which cost us many wins. Yesterday he said that this team beats that team hands down in the 'sucking at catching' department and that is something !!!! True cricket fans like us are losing patience with this pathetic standard while Shastri and Sridhar are laughing their way to the bank. 

Slip catching is different than Fielding. It's a specialist job that need special training and we do not have a any Fielding coach to work on their slip catching.

[Kohlifan]

Slip catching is an art, which requires more mental fitness rather then physical fitness. It does need you to concentrate on each ball & expect that it will come to you.  

[rkt.india]

Not every good fielder will be good slip catcher. Vijay and Ashwin are two best slip catchers in this team but they are not good fielders in general. Kohli, Jaddu, Rohit, Rahane are good outfielders but not good in slips.

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Slip catching is different than Fielding. It's a specialist job that need special training and we do not have a any Fielding coach to work on their slip catching.

Our catching is an issue, not just slip catching. We drop catches in gully, mid wicket, cover, everywhere !!!!

[bhakum20]

Strange there isn't a 'dropped catches' section in cricket statistics, it should be one of the most important metrics. We have tons of meaningless stats like 4th highest 7th wicket partnership. Why the hell does that even matter??

 

Without stats, difficult to say whether it's the worst.

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Our catching is an issue, not just slip catching. We drop catches in gully, mid wicket, cover, everywhere !!!!

Not really. Catching anywhere else is fine.

[bhakum20]

Here's something I found: http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1056115/tracking-the-misses

 

India is definitely not the worst. Pakistan on the other hand....

[Shunya]

Well if the captain himself is leading the charts of dropped catches, it makes it difficult for others to take a stand and weed the problem out. This thing has been going on since more than a year now, surely they would have discussed about it. If they wished to get a specialist for slip catching, they could have easily got one. I feel overconfidence is the main reason of no improvement here. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, bhakum20 said:

Here's something I found: http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1056115/tracking-the-misses

 

India is definitely not the worst. Pakistan on the other hand....

Kamran alone might have contributed a large number of it

[King Tendulkar]

28 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not just India's worst this is the worst catching unit from any nation since the inception of cricket. 

Pakistan 

[Trichromatic]

Quote

In the Wellington test in 2014 Ishant dropped McCullum when he was on 36 and later he scored 302 and saved the matchfor his team(although McCullum was also dropped on 9 by Kohli is this same innings). In the Auckland test in same series Ishant dropped a tough chance of McCullum on 46 later he scored 224. In the Sydney test 2011-12 Ishant dropped M.Clarke on 182 and he later scored notout 329. In 2011 Edgbaston test also Ishant dropped Cook I can't recognise the exact score but he later went on to score 294.

Some generous players in the team.

[Trichromatic]

Someone tried to count those drop till 2016 and came up with these ratings

 

http://www.cricrate.com/career.php?matchFormat=Test&disc=Fielding&span=1877-2099&team=All teams&xVal=average&yVal=strikeRate&width=1366&height=768

 

Best

 

Rank	Player	Team	Span	Mat	Cat	Drops	Drop%	GrtCat	DirHits	Runs	Rating
1	Brad Haddin		2008-2015	65	259	18	6.50	10	0	-5	2114
2	Mark Boucher		2005-2012	57	213	12	5.33	5	0	3	1947
3	Prasanna Jayawardene		2006-2015	44	143	8	5.30	1	1	1	1669
4	BJ Watling		2010-2017	49	168	10	5.62	4	0	-5	1441
5	Kane Williamson		2010-2017	41	53	4	7.02	6	1	21	1432
6	AB de Villiers		2006-2016	78	174	13	6.95	8	1	18	1255
7	Jonny Bairstow		2012-2016	27	93	7	7.00	2	1	1	1137
8	Herschelle Gibbs		2005-2008	18	38	1	2.56	3	1	13	1055
9	Tom Latham		2014-2017	21	33	3	8.33	3	0	9	1019
10	Quinton de Kock		2014-2017	17	76	5	6.17	4	0

 

 

 

 

 

Worst

Rank	Player	Team	Span	Mat	Cat	Drops	Drop%	GrtCat	DirHits	Runs	Rating
1	Dwayne Bravo		2006-2010	25	32	15	31.91	0	0	7	-1080
2	Virat Kohli		2011-2017	46	54	19	26.03	0	2	-11	-956
3	Chris Gayle		2006-2014	33	34	16	32.00	3	0	4	-947
4	Rahul Dravid		2005-2011	53	82	24	22.64	1	0	2	-911
5	Mahela Jayawardene		2005-2014	46	78	24	23.53	4	0	4	-779
6	Imran Farhat		2006-2010	17	22	12	35.29	0	1	2	-672
7	Iain O'Brien		2007-2009	12	5	6	54.55	0	0	-1	-632
8	Dinesh Karthik		2007-2010	12	22	10	31.25	1	0	-1	-595
9	Jerome Taylor		2006-2015	22	9	8	47.06	1	1	-3	-594
10	Umar Gul		2006-2013	18	9	8	47.06	1	0	-10	-589