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Here are mine:

 

1. We were losing Chepauk 2004 against Aussies, final day rain saved us there. That team was extremely fragile in 4th innings chases and we were up against an ATG unit at the peak of its powers.

 

2. 2003 tour to Aus is over rated. Without Mcgrath very little joy in getting a drawn series there.

 

3. 2005 Ashes is bloody over rated. The 2 wins England got were in both tests that Mcgrath wasn't a part of. Without Mcgrath that great Aussie team wasn't that intimidating tbh. 

 

4. In the 90s I felt Lara was a better ODI batsman than SRT. Only attitude and laziness prevented him from establishing himself as the GOAT batsman later on. 

 

5. Murali, Saqlain, Bhajji and Ajmal have befitted greatly because of leniency w.r.t chucking rules. Without doosra all of them weren't that good. We need to give more credit to Swann, Ash and Lyon for having clean actions and being so successful without the doosra.

 

6. Kumble was our MVP in tests for a large part of his career. While we had the fab 5 and what not, without Kumble we would have been a minnow level team for greater part of 90s-2007 era. 

 

7. In ODIs Kohli is clearly inferior to SRT. In tests it doesn't even warrant a comparison.  Had to make this point in light of media's tamasha over this the last year or so.

 

8. Bradman is the GOAT batsman in test cricket and any comparison with others is blasphemy, kinda similar to Major Dhyan Chand's status in field hockey. Viv is the ODI GOAT and the gap between him and no 2 (SRT) is quite big.

 

9. Ishant Sharma is actually a good test bowler who is genuinely unlucky. Last cycle he won us Lord's and gave us the Wellington test on a platter only for others to screw it up.

 

10. Vijay is our number 1 overall test batsman, Che is number 2, Kohli only 3rd best.

 

11. KL Rahul is potentially our best batsman, even better than Kohli. He is the only one who can give Lord Smith a run for his money.

 

12. Cook is a legend, Anderson is a legend, Swann is a legend. All 3 are undisputed ATGs. 

 

13. Graeme Smith is at least as good as Kallis, Sanga, Dravid. Best opener since Sunny, even better than Cook, Hayden and Viru.

 

14. Kallis is the GOAT cricketer. Also most under rated cricketer of all time, no praise is high enough for this man.

 

15. Dhawan is the number 1 ODI batsman presently, his stellar performances in ICC tourneys alone warrant his name in discussion among ATG ODI bats. 

 

16. SA team from 2006-15 deserves as much respect as WI and Aus. They went undefeated overseas all these years, an almost unthinkable feat.

 

17. Zak is over rated, Srinath was much better than him. Also during his peak years (2007-10) he was more often than not outbowled by Ishant, Sressanth, RP etc.

 

18. Saha is the best pure keeper I have ever seen and he must have debuted at least by 2012, Dhoni had no business staying on for so long.

 

19. IPL is an abomination and should be cut down to size. 

 

20. Greg Chappell was actually a good coach. I believe Kirsten reaped the benefits of the hard decisions made in the Chappell era. 

 

I will add more when I get time. Post your opinions. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, beetle said:

Point 9....bhuvi took 6 important wkts too so Ishant did not win it.

He performed very well along with bhuvi.

 

Point 19...ipl is the best thing to happen to Indian cricket in recent times.

We have got good players who have got recognition because of ipl.

It's ok, just my opinion I may be wrong :p:. That's the point behind this thread, write opinions you feel strongly about but may be in minority view or just plain and simple wrong. Please share your honest opinions however ludicrous they may sound to others :icflove:

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1 minute ago, goose said:

1. India needed 220 to win with Sehwag teeing off and you think rain saved US? 

Sehwag has mostly been mediocre in 4th innings chases and by law of averages he was due for a failure after his 150 in the 1st dig. How many times have you seen Viru firing in both innings of a test match? That pitch was crumbling apart and that Indian team fared much worse against lesser attacks on day 5 Indian pitches, eg Udal 2006, Bangalore 2005...... Besides you probably don't remember the high quality bowling by Aus that series, I have never seen our batsmen made to feel so helpless by a visiting team. 

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2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Sehwag has mostly been mediocre in 4th innings chases and by law of averages he was due for a failure after his 150 in the 1st dig. How many times have you seen Viru firing in both innings of a test match? That pitch was crumbling apart and that Indian team fared much worse against lesser attacks on day 5 Indian pitches, eg Udal 2006, Bangalore 2005...... Besides you probably don't remember the high quality bowling by Aus that series, I have never seen our batsmen made to feel so helpless by a visiting team. 

Why not pray for the whole test to be rained off in that case?

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4 minutes ago, goose said:

Why not pray for the whole test to be rained off in that case?

I didn't get you.

 

We could have chased 120-130 on that final day pitch, 220 was way beyond reach. Remember how we huffed and puffed our way to get 130 in Chepauk 2001. And in that series we had prime SRT, peak Dravid, peak Laxman while Aussie bowlers weren't as deadly as they were in 2004. Also we were riding a high wave of confidence in 2001 coming from the GOAT test in Eden Gardens, in 2004 we were coming from a massacre in Bengaluru. 

 

I would have been sadder had we broken the Martyn-Gillespie partnership earlier and got a modest target of below 130, only for rain to wash out complete day 5. But looking back I am happy because if not for rain we were heading to Mumbai facing a whitewash at home.

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I am utterly astonished at your stance on this. Sehwag had just hit 155 in the 1st innings and had raced to 12 (3 boundaries) in the 2nd innings and you are happy the match was abandoned? We'll never know what would have happened but as an India supporter I don't understand how you could be happy the game was rained off. It was heartbreaking.

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Here are mine:

 

1. We were losing Chepauk 2004 against Aussies, final day rain saved us there. That team was extremely fragile in 4th innings chases and we were up against an ATG unit at the peak of its powers. Disagree. Sehwag was well on his way.

 

2. 2003 tour to Aus is over rated. Without Mcgrath very little joy in getting a drawn series there. Disagree. The Aussies still had an aura then despite the odd change in personnel. Again why bother tuning in at all?

 

3. 2005 Ashes is bloody over rated. The 2 wins England got were in both tests that Mcgrath wasn't a part of. Without Mcgrath that great Aussie team wasn't that intimidating tbh. See above. 

 

4. In the 90s I felt Lara was a better ODI batsman than SRT. Only attitude and laziness prevented him from establishing himself as the GOAT batsman later on. Counter factual

 

5. Murali, Saqlain, Bhajji and Ajmal have befitted greatly because of leniency w.r.t chucking rules. Without doosra all of them weren't that good. We need to give more credit to Swann, Ash and Lyon for having clean actions and being so successful without the doosra. Agree

 

6. Kumble was our MVP in tests for a large part of his career. While we had the fab 5 and what not, without Kumble we would have been a minnow level team for greater part of 90s-2007 era. Minnow is a stretch, we had some of the all time batting greats. But yes you do need 20 wickets to win a game.

 

7. In ODIs Kohli is clearly inferior to SRT. In tests it doesn't even warrant a comparison.  Had to make this point in light of media's tamasha over this the last year or so. Agree. To compare players across eras, you have to compare them to their peers. 

 

8. Bradman is the GOAT batsman in test cricket and any comparison with others is blasphemy, kinda similar to Major Dhyan Chand's status in field hockey. Viv is the ODI GOAT and the gap between him and no 2 (SRT) is quite big. Disagree on both counts. Smith averaging 82 in 1st innings has demonstrated that statistics alone can leave plenty to be desired. Bradman was also very unorthodox. Bradman's average is largely a function of his 2nd innings average of 104. That indicates a very different approach to the second innings versus modern test cricket. 

 

9. Ishant Sharma is actually a good test bowler who is genuinely unlucky. Last cycle he won us Lord's and gave us the Wellington test on a platter only for others to screw it up. HAHAHAHA

 

10. Vijay is our number 1 overall test batsman, Che is number 2, Kohli only 3rd best. We'll know in 18 months

 

11. KL Rahul is potentially our best batsman, even better than Kohli. He is the only one who can give Lord Smith a run for his money. No idea

 

12. Cook is a legend, Anderson is a legend, Swann is a legend. All 3 are undisputed ATGs. Great players, England legends (not sure about Swann). Certainly none are ATGs

 

13. Graeme Smith is at least as good as Kallis, Sanga, Dravid. Best opener since Sunny, even better than Cook, Hayden and Viru. South Africans in general are underrated so you may have a point here.

 

14. Kallis is the GOAT cricketer. Also most under rated cricketer of all time, no praise is high enough for this man. He is in that tier of batsmen along with Ponting who crept up on us through sheer weight of runs. They were not always so highly regarded. Tendulkar had no records whatsoever when Wisden rated him second only to Bradman. But love his understated approach to the game.

 

15. Dhawan is the number 1 ODI batsman presently, his stellar performances in ICC tourneys alone warrant his name in discussion among ATG ODI bats. I have a problem with any player that can't do it in tests with exception of Yuvraj

16. SA team from 2006-15 deserves as much respect as WI and Aus. They went undefeated overseas all these years, an almost unthinkable feat. That's a stretch. Underrated perhaps but not on par with Aus and WI come on.

 

17. Zak is over rated, Srinath was much better than him. Also during his peak years (2007-10) he was more often than not outbowled by Ishant, Sressanth, RP etc. HAHAHA in his second incarnation was the best left armer if not best swing bowler in world. Holds my respect for going to Worcestershire and returning twice the bowler. Meanwhile Ishant is taking selfies dressed in Nigerian leather.

 

18. Saha is the best pure keeper I have ever seen and he must have debuted at least by 2012, Dhoni had no business staying on for so long. Dhoni rated the best keeper in world by many certainly to spin bowlers. 

 

19. IPL is an abomination and should be cut down to size. Agree. T20 is cannibalising test cricket the greatest format

 

20. Greg Chappell was actually a good coach. I believe Kirsten reaped the benefits of the hard decisions made in the Chappell era. Yes and no. Good coach but not for india. 

 

I will add more when I get time. Post your opinions. 

 

 

 

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No 2004 test if Gillespie can survive close 180 deliveries from top spinners like Bhajji and kumble on 4th day pitch. We could easily win the match. You should see a match to make a guess. The pitch was slow had no bounce and less turn. Chennai 2001 was a different pitch. You can’t compare pitches which are 2 years apart make a deduction.

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How is cook a legend lost ashes 4-0 in 2014 while kohli scored lot of runs against same attack. Again scored nada in the matches that matter in the 2017 ashes. He gets scottt free ? This bending over for goras is appalling. He can’t handle the pressure of ashes simple and can’t bat against good fast bowlers. He had major problems against McGrath and Stuart Clarke their is video made a Aussie fan on how to dimisss cook shows his technical issues while he started.

 

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Here are mine:

 

1. We were losing Chepauk 2004 against Aussies, final day rain saved us there. That team was extremely fragile in 4th innings chases and we were up against an ATG unit at the peak of its powers.

 

2. 2003 tour to Aus is over rated. Without Mcgrath very little joy in getting a drawn series there.

 

3. 2005 Ashes is bloody over rated. The 2 wins England got were in both tests that Mcgrath wasn't a part of. Without Mcgrath that great Aussie team wasn't that intimidating tbh. 

 

4. In the 90s I felt Lara was a better ODI batsman than SRT. Only attitude and laziness prevented him from establishing himself as the GOAT batsman later on. 

 

5. Murali, Saqlain, Bhajji and Ajmal have befitted greatly because of leniency w.r.t chucking rules. Without doosra all of them weren't that good. We need to give more credit to Swann, Ash and Lyon for having clean actions and being so successful without the doosra.

 

6. Kumble was our MVP in tests for a large part of his career. While we had the fab 5 and what not, without Kumble we would have been a minnow level team for greater part of 90s-2007 era. 

 

7. In ODIs Kohli is clearly inferior to SRT. In tests it doesn't even warrant a comparison.  Had to make this point in light of media's tamasha over this the last year or so.

 

8. Bradman is the GOAT batsman in test cricket and any comparison with others is blasphemy, kinda similar to Major Dhyan Chand's status in field hockey. Viv is the ODI GOAT and the gap between him and no 2 (SRT) is quite big.

 

9. Ishant Sharma is actually a good test bowler who is genuinely unlucky. Last cycle he won us Lord's and gave us the Wellington test on a platter only for others to screw it up.

 

10. Vijay is our number 1 overall test batsman, Che is number 2, Kohli only 3rd best.

 

11. KL Rahul is potentially our best batsman, even better than Kohli. He is the only one who can give Lord Smith a run for his money.

 

12. Cook is a legend, Anderson is a legend, Swann is a legend. All 3 are undisputed ATGs. 

 

13. Graeme Smith is at least as good as Kallis, Sanga, Dravid. Best opener since Sunny, even better than Cook, Hayden and Viru.

 

14. Kallis is the GOAT cricketer. Also most under rated cricketer of all time, no praise is high enough for this man.

 

15. Dhawan is the number 1 ODI batsman presently, his stellar performances in ICC tourneys alone warrant his name in discussion among ATG ODI bats. 

 

16. SA team from 2006-15 deserves as much respect as WI and Aus. They went undefeated overseas all these years, an almost unthinkable feat.

 

17. Zak is over rated, Srinath was much better than him. Also during his peak years (2007-10) he was more often than not outbowled by Ishant, Sressanth, RP etc.

 

18. Saha is the best pure keeper I have ever seen and he must have debuted at least by 2012, Dhoni had no business staying on for so long.

 

19. IPL is an abomination and should be cut down to size. 

 

20. Greg Chappell was actually a good coach. I believe Kirsten reaped the benefits of the hard decisions made in the Chappell era. 

 

I will add more when I get time. Post your opinions. 

 

 

I agree with most of your points however-:
1) You're underrating Kohli here, whilst he's not better than Sachin but the difference between them isn't that great particularly due to the fact that Kohli has single handedly won more matches in ODI than Sachin ever did, although Kohli has played in a much more superior team.

2) Pujara is horrendously overrated as a test batsmen. Great in home conditions, but has done nothing overseas, I'm hoping that change until than Kohli remains our best batsman.

3) Anderson and Cook are ATG. Swann isn't, he was excellent but not ATG.

4) Disagree about IPL, it's a blessing in disguise.

5) Greg Chappell was excellent coach but just think that in international cricket, as a coach you need to have more man management skills than coaching, hence I believe Shastri is an excellent choice for us.

 

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@gattaca I believe we would have lost the Chepauk test purely based on the bowling strength of Aus and how much we struggled with the bat that series. I am ok if you disagree, this is an 'unpopular opinions thread' and not 'conventional wisdom thread', so I am excused.

 

And no Cook is a legend based on his exploits in Aus 2010-11 and India 2012....he owned the opposition in both the series' and let us admit it, India and Australia have been the toughest places to tour in the last 15 years or so. He may have had problems against Mcgrath and his inferior clone but he is not alone in that regard. Still 21 year old baby Cook got a stunning 100 in Perth against Mcgrath-Clark-Warne, I watched that innings live and was mighty impressed. 

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1. Ganguly too overstayed in his captaincy. His legacy should be bigger than it actually is now

2. Kapil Dev was pure passion..he blocked a lot of young pacers in his quest for record. 

3.Kumble as a coach would have taken us to at least 1series win against SA/Eng/Aus

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21. SRT wasn't all that great against spinners. Sure he eviscerated Warne but had big issues against Murali, Saqlain, Swann, Lyon, Vettori, Price, Giles, Paul Harris etc. Also against mystery spinners, no matter how mediocre, he had problems.

 

22. Gambhir too had weakness against spin. I never really understood when fellow posters hailed him as a maestro against spin. IMO even in the present team Che and Vijay are better than Gambo in that aspect, yet they don't get the plaudits.

 

23. Wasim Akram is overhyped in red ball cricket. I don't see why his name should be thrown around with the likes of Mcgrath, Ambrose, Donald, Steyn etc. Guy feasted on the lower order and more often than not the top test batsmen of his time had the wood over him. He was a colossal ODI bowler agreed, but in the truest format of the game he underachieved.

 

24. We weren't that bad in the 90s :p:. We won a fair share of multi nation ODI tournaments and were quite strong at home. Even in overseas tests we were cheated once in SA, met a scary Australia in 1999, lost honorably in England and gave some resistance in NZ against a very tough unit. Only in SA, esp 1996 did we get wrecked but 1 disaster in a decade should be ok. In 1991-92 Australia we copped so many bad decisions that I feel like excusing those chaps, unrealistic to compete against 13 men. 

 

25. Dravid was a good captain. He knew how to handle bowlers and his field settings were spot on. He inculcated the art of chasing in our team, we were weak chasers before his reign. Unfortunately the 2007 WC fiasco painted a gloomy picture about him, same Dravid led us to series wins in WI 2006 and Eng 2007. 

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2 hours ago, goose said:

I am utterly astonished at your stance on this. Sehwag had just hit 155 in the 1st innings and had raced to 12 (3 boundaries) in the 2nd innings and you are happy the match was abandoned? We'll never know what would have happened but as an India supporter I don't understand how you could be happy the game was rained off. It was heartbreaking.

My stance got stronger after the 2005 and 2006 home tests against Pak and England. We were never good in 4th innings run chases in India until Chepauk 2008. 

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@goose Why do say Lara being a better ODI bat than SRT in 90s is counter factual. SRT started blooming only post 1996 and had a slump in 1999. Lara was the top ranked ODI batsman from 1993-97, SRT was the no 1 in 1998 and then Bevan took over from 1999-2003. SRT finished as YE #1 only in 1998 and 2003, Lara was #1 for 5 straight years in the 90s. 

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26. Sachin did Indian cricket team a great deal of harm by keeping mum during the fixing sage of the late 90s. He was like Manmohan Singh of Indian cricket back then.

 

27. 1987 WC was a cruel joke, no way was that **** Aussie team deserving of a WC. People give us a lot of flak for winning 1983 but we proved our worth in 1985. That Aus team winning a WC ahead of WI, India, Pak was the nadir of ODI cricket. Lots of choking and some bad umpiring robbed us of an Indo-Pak final in Calcutta. 

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Dravid was best Indian test captain in last 20 years

Ganguly had an ordinary 2003 wc,boosted stats against minnows

Steve Waugh was best batsman of 90s

MS Dhoni is the originator of biggest chewtiyapa in intl cricket called finisher,a player who takes the game deep unnecessarily sometimes & he has inspired lots of other players to do same like Mathews, Faulkner

Ishant Sharma is the worst fast bowler to play 50+ tests

Virat Kohli the batsman,the personality is closest to Sir Viv

Azhar was the most elegant batsman I have seen,match fixing notwithstanding I can watch dozen of his innings on YouTube than any other ind batsman

Veeru Sehwag was not a FTB,he sometimes survived most difficult of conditions in NZ n dambulla,his problem was temperament/patience sometimes overseas especially later part of his career

Sri Lanka had the best cricket brains during the era of Jaya-Sanga,although both are morons but are great strategists

Kevin Pietersen has played more clutch innings than Cook can dream of,Cook is a master accumulator,KP won them the 2012 tour with that amazing innings in Mumbai 

 

 

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Ganguly groomed x...

Dhoni groomed x..

Kohli is the reason for X's success..

These statements are all unfair. These players did get some support by the captain but give due credit to the players themselves, also some contribution to the selectors. While fans contribute the player's success to the captains, there are  also bad examples like Dinesh Mongia, Ishant, DK and numerous test selections like Yuvi, Raina, Pandya  based on ODI performance.

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

@goose Why do say Lara being a better ODI bat than SRT in 90s is counter factual. SRT started blooming only post 1996 and had a slump in 1999. Lara was the top ranked ODI batsman from 1993-97, SRT was the no 1 in 1998 and then Bevan took over from 1999-2003. SRT finished as YE #1 only in 1998 and 2003, Lara was #1 for 5 straight years in the 90s. 

i don't go by YE rankings, i go by what recall all 12 months of every year.

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35 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Lara's decline as an ODI bat has more to do with him moving to the middle order rather than any laziness or attitudinal problems. When he batted in the top 3 his record was second only to Viv. Not an unpopular opinion as such, just responding to one of the points made by @Gollum.

I have seen highlights of 1992 world cup and Lara had some very good knocks. When I checked the stats he was a clear no 2 behind Crowe in that edition. He opened in that WC, probably should have stayed there for the rest of his career. Why do you think his stats took a hit after moving to the middle order because he was one helluva of a player against spin and a great manipulator of the gaps. I have read articles bemoaning his frequent run ins with WICB and his bad attitude affecting his batting, even Holding and Lloyd criticized him at one point asking him to learn from SRT. 

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28. SRT was somewhat a choker. He was not an outright mental midget as haters over here say, but he definitely underperformed when we needed him most. Most of our great victories like Eden 2001, Adelaide 2003, Durban 2010 etc were scripted by lesser players than him. His choke jobs in WC finals and some crucial tests when we needed someone to step up in the 4th dig will always hurt his reputation. It is true that he carried more expectation in the 90s but with the arrival of Dravid, Ganguly, Viru, Laxman in late 90s/early 00s he was unburdened, yet he continued to fail. His 85 ball 16 against Pak in Bangalore 2005 is one of the weirdest innings I have ever seen.

 

29. Even though I hate Azhar I loved his batting, still watch his innings on YT whenever I am bored. I am with you on this @SK_IH

He was also a very graceful fielder.

 

30. I believe Afridi was an asset in white ball cricket. He was wrongly utilized by Pak management and over pampered by the Pak fans/PCB. But I think he was a genuine matchwinner with both bat and ball. 2009 WT20 wouldn't have been won by them if not for that one man. Also even though he was a mediocre test batsman that 141 in Chepauk was an ATG knock. 

 

31. ABDV is not a choker, just plain unlucky.

 

32. Modern test batsmen are over rated. They are defensively very weak and are useless against the swinging/seaming/spinning ball. 

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:

26. Sachin did Indian cricket team a great deal of harm by keeping mum during the fixing sage of the late 90s. He was like Manmohan Singh of Indian cricket back then.

 

27. 1987 WC was a cruel joke, no way was that **** Aussie team deserving of a WC. People give us a lot of flak for winning 1983 but we proved our worth in 1985. That Aus team winning a WC ahead of WI, India, Pak was the nadir of ODI cricket. Lots of choking and some bad umpiring robbed us of an Indo-Pak final in Calcutta. 

On point 26 well it wasn’t Sachin’s business to talk about it...so apart from Gibbs and Boje I have not heard other cricketers speak up against Cronje either so Pollock,Kallis,Kluesner,Donald etc...so where they wrong too?

 

I am sure Sachin knew something shady was going on but had he said he knew all along he would have been screwed even more...it is better to keep mum and act surprised.

 

 

On point 27 no one said Aus were favorites...in fact England choked in the final. India lost fair and square to England as well.From 1983-1999 it became a trend that only underdogs were winning world cups.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Gollum said:

28. SRT was somewhat a choker. He was not an outright mental midget as haters over here say, but he definitely underperformed when we needed him most. Most of our great victories like Eden 2001, Adelaide 2003, Durban 2010 etc were scripted by lesser players than him. His choke jobs in WC finals and some crucial tests when we needed someone to step up in the 4th dig will always hurt his reputation. It is true that he carried more expectation in the 90s but with the arrival of Dravid, Ganguly, Viru, Laxman in late 90s/early 00s he was unburdened, yet he continued to fail. His 85 ball 16 against Pak in Bangalore 2005 is one of the weirdest innings I have ever seen.

 

29. Even though I hate Azhar I loved his batting, still watch his innings on YT whenever I am bored. I am with you on this @SK_IH

He was also a very graceful fielder.

 

30. I believe Afridi was an asset in white ball cricket. He was wrongly utilized by Pak management and over pampered by the Pak fans/PCB. But I think he was a genuine matchwinner with both bat and ball. 2009 WT20 wouldn't have been won by them if not for that one man. Also even though he was a mediocre test batsman that 141 in Chepauk was an ATG knock. 

 

31. ABDV is not a choker, just plain unlucky.

 

32. Modern test batsmen are over rated. They are defensively very weak and are useless against the swinging/seaming/spinning ball. 

So ABDV who fails in semi finals is unlucky and not a choker but Sachin wins man of the matches in quarters and semis and big games but he is a choker...are these unpopular opinions or Gollum’s biased opinions?

 

Just FYI  Sachin’s Bowling in the  2001 Eden test was a major factor between a tame draw and India winning...even though yes I agree that moment belonged to VVS-Dravid even though Sachin contributed in his own way.

 

Agree on Afridi-decent LOI cricketer overhyped by fans.

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33. Sadagopan Ramesh was a very good opener, he should have been given a longer run in the test team. He was our best batsman in the 3 matches against Pak in 1999, a great feat considering their bowling attack and pressure due to external factors. Had he played the 2003-04 series against Aus he would have raked in the runs against that weak bowling attack on those pattas. 

 

34. Lara's batting was ugly as hell, no idea how people call that graceful while deride SRT's batting style as boring :facepalm:. His cover drive, square drive and one legged pull were nice to watch but overall it was too much jumping jhapak. 

 

35. Sachin was potentially a good bowler. He could have become an all rounder had he worked a bit more on his bowling. Sometimes when he was on a roll he could bowl peaches that even Warne would have trouble replicating.

 

36. Chappell did the right thing by benching Dada. Dada had become too big for his boots and didn't deserve a spot on merit after 2005. I am glad that he came back well but when he was dropped that was the correct decision. Having attended that SA-India match in Eden you can't imagine how disgraceful the crowd behaviour was that day. 

 

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Sehwag started believing his own hype and tried to smash everything and anything in his later career even though early on playing good % cricket and having a solid defense  is what brought him success.

 

Similarly with his commentary early on he was funny and witty and then started believing his own hype and turned into making cringeworthy and embarrassing  statements...He was so over the top and embarrassing that even Shoaib Akthar who makes ridiculous statements like Star baanao,etc on his TV shows was looking like a mature analyst :facepalm:

 

Overall Sehwag comes across a total tool these days.

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Here is my only unpopular opinion about Sachin...I think he gave away all his childhood and adult life to cricket that he is burnt out..I don’t think he has the passion or love for cricket in general any more.

 

In a way can’t blame him...good for him to live his life but sad to see him become almost a recluse when it comes to cricket these days.

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12 minutes ago, maniac said:

So ABDV who fails in semi finals is unlucky and not a choker but Sachin wins man of the matches in quarters and semis and big games but he is a choker...are these unpopular opinions or Gollum’s biased opinions?

 

Just FYI  Sachin’s Bowling in the  2001 Eden test was a major factor between a tame draw and India winning...even though yes I agree that moment belonged to VVS-Dravid even though Sachin contributed in his own way.

 

Agree on Afridi-decent LOI cricketer overhyped by fans.

ABDV played a blinder in the 2015 WC SF and if not for the rotten luck with the rain he was on course towards delivering a knock for the ages. Unlike Kohli ABDV has a stellar WC record, in that sense it isn't right to call him a choker. In tests ABDV has been very clutch. He isn't a choker like say an Amla. 

 

In my post about Sachin I did not call him a complete choker. I don't think he is as bad as some haters make it out to be but you must remember when we are talking about him we are comparing him to ATGs like Bradman, Viv, Lara, Ponting etc. Ofc compared to lesser players he will mostly shine but when you consider the top bracket these things become a differentiating factor. Example if I say pre 2017 Federer had a poor backhand that doesn't mean I don't rate his BH. It is just that compared to his equals/rivals like Nole, Nadal, Stan, Murray etc he has a weak BH.....he has a better BH than 98% of the tour but when you talk about Federer the player you don't compare him with Somdev, you compare him with people who are in GOAT race like Nadal and Nole. 

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Kohli’s aggression and passion on the field with a bat in hand=100% genuine

 

Kohli’s off field shenanigans=100% fake pr stunts

 

eg,like sucking up to the Pakistanis,calling Amir a great bowler etc and while I am ok with the gesture that he invited that Srilankan super fan to his wedding but the way it was publicized all over  social media and the the way the gesture was hyped about seems a bit shady.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

I have seen highlights of 1992 world cup and Lara had some very good knocks. When I checked the stats he was a clear no 2 behind Crowe in that edition. He opened in that WC, probably should have stayed there for the rest of his career. Why do you think his stats took a hit after moving to the middle order because he was one helluva of a player against spin and a great manipulator of the gaps. I have read articles bemoaning his frequent run ins with WICB and his bad attitude affecting his batting, even Holding and Lloyd criticized him at one point asking him to learn from SRT. 

Top 3 is the  place to bat in ODIs man. You get to bat during the fielding restrictions and get a chance to get big scores. Extremely hard to bat in the middle-order and maintain a high average without being a not out merchant. ABDV and Hussey are the only exceptions who have been able to do this I think. Plus Lara played for WI so when he started batting in the middle-order he was more often than not undoing the damage done by the top order. People look at his raw stats and think he was a Ganguly/Anwar level ODI player :phehe:.

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1 minute ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Top 3 is the  place to bat in ODIs man. You get to bat during the fielding restrictions and get a chance get big scores. Extremely hard to bat in the middle-order and maintain and a high average without being a not out merchant. ABDV and Hussey are the only exceptions who have been able to do this I think. Plus Lara played for WI so when he started batting in the middle-order he was more often than not undoing the damage done by the top order. People look at his raw stats and think he was a Ganguly/Anwar level ODI player :phehe:.

Even I was part of that crowd till a couple of years back. Only when I dug into the nitty gritty did I realize how wrong I was. Also came across the ICC ODI ranking stats one fine day and was surprised to see Lara finish YE #1 five years straight. Viv, Bevan Jones and ABDV have got 4 straight and they are GOAT contenders in ODIs, yet we barely hear a whisper about Lara.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Gollum said:

ABDV played a blinder in the 2015 WC SF and if not for the rotten luck with the rain he was on course towards delivering a knock for the ages. Unlike Kohli ABDV has a stellar WC record, in that sense it isn't right to call him a choker. In tests ABDV has been very clutch. He isn't a choker like say an Amla. 

 

In my post about Sachin I did not call him a complete choker. I don't think he is as bad as some haters make it out to be but you must remember when we are talking about him we are comparing him to ATGs like Bradman, Viv, Lara, Ponting etc. Ofc compared to lesser players he will mostly shine but when you consider the top bracket these things become a differentiating factor. Example if I say pre 2017 Federer had a poor backhand that doesn't mean I don't rate his BH. It is just that compared to his equals/rivals like Nole, Nadal, Stan, Murray etc he has a weak BH.....he has a better BH than 98% of the tour but when you talk about Federer the player you don't compare him with Somdev, you compare him with people who are in GOAT race like Nadal and Nole. 

2007 wc semifinals-AB devillers 15(34)

2011 wc quarterfinals -35(40) runout

2014 Wt20 Semis-10(8)

2009 wt20 semis 1(5)

 

Sachin failed in 2 finals Sure 

 

but 1996 semis-65 

quarters-31

 

2003

semis-83 

not even counting the legendary Pak match 

 

2011

semis-85 and man of the match

quarters- 53 

 

Again....how is AB unlucky and Sachin a choker?

 

 

 

 

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Hardik Pandya is an overrated cricketer for Test Matches. Its a big long term disaster for Indian test cricket. He might score an odd 50 which will make us select him every time but he is a BS bowler and BS batsman for Test Cricket. I don't care whether its the first time since Kapil Dev that we have an option to play an all rounder who can bowl fast and bat, but he is absolutely bs. I rather play an extra batsman or a bowler in this situation since Pandya is absolutely bs long term option.

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3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Even I was part of that crowd till a couple of years back. Only when I dug into the nitty gritty did I realize how wrong I was. Also came across the ICC ODI ranking stats one fine day and was surprised to see Lara finish YE #1 five years straight. Viv, Bevan Jones and ABDV have got 4 straight and they are GOAT contenders in ODIs, yet we barely hear a whisper about Lara.

 

 

You should check out some of Lara's performances in 92/93 in the tri-series against PAK/SA and in the Carlton and United Series in 1996/97 against AUS/PAK. Was ridiculous. The only blemish in his record during this phase was that he wasn't great in tournament finals. Had one spectacular 153 against Waqar but little else.

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