Mosher Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, renjith said: With the amount of movement he is producing even 130-135 will be enough for intl level. Since domestic speed guns always show lower speeds I think he is already bowling at 130-135k's. I think he can increase his pace by 5k's if he gets stronger and works on it. speedheat, express bowling and Forever Indian 3 Link to comment
renjith Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Mosher said: Since domestic speed guns always show lower speeds I think he is already bowling at 130-135k's. I think he can increase his pace by 5k's if he gets stronger and works on it. Great if his speeds will be 130+ with intl speed guns. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/30/2017 at 11:43 AM, rkt.india said: not really. Domestic readings are slower than international games. I saw navdeep one ball was 145k , that means it shud have been somewere around 150k Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I saw navdeep one ball was 145k , that means it shud have been somewere around 150k I think it is a bit more complicated than that. In all probability, only 1 speed-gun is used in domestic matches while 3 speed-guns are are used in international matches ( and most countries use the middle-reading while Australia uses the highest reading ) That means, the highest speed will almost always be higher in international matches ( could be 2 kph to 5 kph generally ) and the average speed higher by 1 kph or 2 kph when the middle reading is used. Saini's highest speeds could be 146 k to 149 k in international matches, provided he bowls as fast. speedheat and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Found another video of him speedheat and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Found another video of him Certainly looks more than a fast medium in this video..matter of fact is, the guy bowls in a very good channel.No wonder has bucket full of wickets this season Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Great prospect not but yes : bcz LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
Shunya Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Gurbani's spell was matchwinning. Was trundling most of his innings around 125-130kph but mast swing kar raha tha launda. Kudos to him, even cleaned up the tail with ease. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Very interesting prospect. Link to comment
speedheat Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, Shunya said: Gurbani's spell was matchwinning. Was trundling most of his innings around 125-130kph but mast swing kar raha tha launda. Kudos to him, even cleaned up the tail with ease. That's not swing, its seam movement, off the pitch or off the hand is yet to be found, if its natural to him thn congrats we have found a asif or philander esque magician. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, speedheat said: 19 minutes ago, Shunya said: Gurbani's spell was matchwinning. Was trundling most of his innings around 125-130kph but mast swing kar raha tha launda. Kudos to him, even cleaned up the tail with ease. That's not swing, its seam movement, off the pitch or off the hand is yet to be found, if its natural to him thn congrats we have found a asif or philander esque magician. Bot slowheat kindly update your software... Way too many glitches Edited December 31, 2017 by Rasgulla Link to comment
New guy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, express bowling said: I think it is a bit more complicated than that. In all probability, only 1 speed-gun is used in domestic matches while 3 speed-guns are are used in international matches ( and most countries use the middle-reading while Australia uses the highest reading ) That means, the highest speed will almost always be higher in international matches ( could be 2 kph to 5 kph generally ) and the average speed higher by 1 kph or 2 kph when the middle reading is used. Saini's highest speeds could be 146 k to 149 k in international matches, provided he bowls as fast. If he was really that fast, wouldn't the domestic batsmen have much more problems with him? Even international bats find that pace very dfficult Link to comment
Suhaan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, New guy said: If he was really that fast, wouldn't the domestic batsmen have much more problems with him? Even international bats find that pace very dfficult Yes exactly the batsmen were in tight spot the moment he cranked it up say 140+.It was very evident express bowling 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 7 hours ago, express bowling said: I think it is a bit more complicated than that. In all probability, only 1 speed-gun is used in domestic matches while 3 speed-guns are are used in international matches ( and most countries use the middle-reading while Australia uses the highest reading ) That means, the highest speed will almost always be higher in international matches ( could be 2 kph to 5 kph generally ) and the average speed higher by 1 kph or 2 kph when the middle reading is used. Saini's highest speeds could be 146 k to 149 k in international matches, provided he bowls as fast. Why would that make a differnce of 5 kph? Link to comment
maniac Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 One swallow doesn’t make a summer..guy seems to lack pace...max 135 type bowler....have you guys seen Vinay Kumar bowl in domestics? He looks like a second coming of Dale Steyn. You need to be sharp...atleast in the 140 range...unfortunately the guys taking wickets are in the trundler zone and the guys with pace hardly pick up wickets and we are left with drooling over the speed guns. speedheat and sensible-indian 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, maniac said: One swallow doesn’t make a summer..guy seems to lack pace...max 135 type bowler....have you guys seen Vinay Kumar bowl in domestics? He looks like a second coming of Dale Steyn. You need to be sharp...atleast in the 140 range...unfortunately the guys taking wickets are in the trundler zone and the guys with pace hardly pick up wickets and we are left with drooling over the speed guns. How is it one swallow when he has repeated the same feat last few matches? He took 12 wickets in the semi final against Karnataka Edited December 31, 2017 by New guy Link to comment
New guy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Yes exactly the batsmen were in tight spot the moment he cranked it up say 140+.It was very evident Nope, I was saying the opposite. The batsmen didn't look much troubled except the seam/swing movement. If he really was close to 150, batsmen would have troubled more, IMO Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: If he was really that fast, wouldn't the domestic batsmen have much more problems with him? Even international bats find that pace very dfficult Saini averages 23.6 with a SR of 51.9 in FC .... showcasing that domestic batters don't find it easy to handle him. But, he was not this quick a couple of years back when I last saw him. Even this season, he is averaging 23.9 with a SR of 50.5 He dismissed Bengal for 80 odd runs in the 2nd innings. This innings he has picked up 3 wickets + 2 dropped catches + could not bowl for quite some time due to injury. Domestic batters are having lots of problems with him. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, New guy said: The batsmen didn't look much troubled except the seam/swing movement. If he really was close to 150, batsmen would have troubled more, IMO The batsmen look very uncomfortable. But he is not 150 k ..... more like fastest in the mid to high 140s ..... average of high 130s to maybe 140. speedheat 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, Khota said: Why would that make a differnce of 5 kph? It won't for the average speed. It may or may not for the fastest speed as some much-higher-than-average speeds are occasionally recorded by some speed-guns.... like the 147 k by Shardul in his first ODI ..... a bowler who rarely touches 140 k in domestic matches. Mosher and speedheat 1 1 Link to comment
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