Steve Smith technique

[devla]

If there is already a thread on this, apologies...

 

 

If there was an unsuccessful batter with his technique, they would be all over him for his foot movement and back lift but he seems to work this to his advantage...

 

Maybe a lack of good quality left arm seamers are the reason he is successful? 

[goose]

one of the things he does nobody else does is completely square up to the ball with bat in front of body (french cricket is the term used to describe it). even if he nicks the ball it's going to hit his body. by being less side on he can make full use of both left and right eye.

[devla]

6 minutes ago, goose said:

one of the things he does nobody else does is completely square up to the ball with bat in front of body (french cricket is the term used to describe it). even if he nicks the ball it's going to hit his body. by being less side on he can make full use of both left and right eye.

That does leave you in an awkward position to play square off the wicket in the off... especially if the ball is going across from a left armer... 

 

Wonder what his average is against left arm seamers?

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, devla said:

If there is already a thread on this, apologies...

 

 

If there was an unsuccessful batter with his technique, they would be all over him for his foot movement and back lift but he seems to work this to his advantage...

 

Maybe a lack of good quality left arm seamers are the reason he is successful? 

Mindset, he has a very clear n positive mindset which helps u to be on front n back foot right time

Look at dinesh karthik has good technique and looks so hassled .....its about mindset 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

[Trichromatic]

After watching his batting this Ashes:

 

He can leave anything which is good chance of not hitting the stump. Just for example this one below which he is doing much better nowadays

 

 

This is something which Kohli, Sharma and some other batsmen failed to do in the first test. 

 

 Cape Town pitch had lot of bounce.  

 

 

 

Only 2 deliveries which are close to stumps. Most of these dismissals could have been avoided just on length. Vijay tried to drive the ball which was outside off, so it's understandable. Poor shot, but you know that he was trying to get a 4. But shot which Sharma played in 2nd inn, or Kohli in first innings were ODI shots where you just tap the ball and try to steal the single. 

 

These were conditions where they could have adopted the strategy on playing only full deliveries on stumps and trust bounce to take anything above stumps if it in line but on good length. 

 

If you're not willing to do so, no matter how good you look technically, you have proper foot movement and all kind of textbook technique, but a guy who is willing judge the ball on it's line and length and play according even with a ugly looking technique is going to outscore you.

 

That's what Smith is doing. 

 

[Gollum]

Look at their coverage and look at the trash we Indian fans have to endure in extra innings.

[vvvslaxman]

Yes even Smith may find himself vulnerable later on with this technique. This is more like Dhoni technique in ODI. Percentage cricket. Ganguly in his comeback had impeccable defense and judgment around the off stump. He got right behind or right forward.  Kohli sorta goes half forward or half backward.  His strength of walking across stumps to play through midwicket has become a weakness when there is movement. HE should try to play absolutely in the V until he settles down.

[renjith]

On 30/12/2017 at 9:39 PM, goose said:

one of the things he does nobody else does is completely square up to the ball with bat in front of body (french cricket is the term used to describe it). even if he nicks the ball it's going to hit his body. by being less side on he can make full use of both left and right eye.

Getting square on is the worst position a batsman can get into. Him getting far too accross is also very poor technique.

How is gets away with all these poor techniques is a mistery. Maybe his other skills are far too good. Like out of the world eye sight, hand eye cordination, head position, body balance while playing the shot,... 

[kosingh]

The freak plays French cricket.

 

But it works. 

[rkt.india]

There was only one bowling pitch in this Ashes and that was at Adelaide and he failed.

[MechEng]

8 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

After watching his batting this Ashes:

 

He can leave anything which is good chance of not hitting the stump. Just for example this one below which he is doing much better nowadays

 

 

This is something which Kohli, Sharma and some other batsmen failed to do in the first test. 

 

 Cape Town pitch had lot of bounce.  

 

 

 

Only 2 deliveries which are close to stumps. Most of these dismissals could have been avoided just on length. Vijay tried to drive the ball which was outside off, so it's understandable. Poor shot, but you know that he was trying to get a 4. But shot which Sharma played in 2nd inn, or Kohli in first innings were ODI shots where you just tap the ball and try to steal the single. 

 

These were conditions where they could have adopted the strategy on playing only full deliveries on stumps and trust bounce to take anything above stumps if it in line but on good length. 

 

If you're not willing to do so, no matter how good you look technically, you have proper foot movement and all kind of textbook technique, but a guy who is willing judge the ball on it's line and length and play according even with a ugly looking technique is going to outscore you.

 

That's what Smith is doing. 

 

It could be becasue of playing a lot of cricket on home conditions our batters would only leave the ball if it is on short length only, the ball rises to stump height even from the good length on Indian pitches.

 

Steve Smith is brought up on bouncier Australian pitches, so he instinctively leaves the ball even if it is on good length zone. But because of this he also has made error in judgements, I've seen him getting bowled in India to spinners when he decided to leave the ball expecting it to go above the stumps.

[Trichromatic]

40 minutes ago, MechEng said:

It could be becasue of playing a lot of cricket on home conditions our batters would only leave the ball if it is on short length only, the ball rises to stump height even from the good length on Indian pitches.

 

Steve Smith is brought up on bouncier Australian pitches, so he instinctively leaves the ball even if it is on good length zone. But because of this he also has made error in judgements, I've seen him getting bowled in India to spinners when he decided to leave the ball expecting it to go above the stumps.

Yes, it could say so. It takes time to adjust to the bounce of the match. No matter how good batsman you're, there is no easy to way to judge the bounce straightaway. 

 

But if you see the match our batsmen survived 20-60 deliveries. By that time batsman can't be 100% sure of leaving balls on length, but they certainly get fair idea of how it would be. Still you see Rohit Sharma just defending a rising delivery for nothing. That's just poor cricket.

 

Leaving balls(or not leaving) on line is something which can be attributed to ODIs only. There is no other explanation of why batsmen would try to defend a ball outside off when it's sure that they won't get run for it. 

 

So far Smith has shown that he is good to survive on spinning tracks too. Still not sure how he survives.

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

 

So far Smith has shown that he is good to survive on spinning tracks too. Still not sure how he survives.

yes anyone can survive if you drop catch after catch like we did at Pune.

[MechEng]

40 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Yes, it could say so. It takes time to adjust to the bounce of the match. No matter how good batsman you're, there is no easy to way to judge the bounce straightaway. 

 

But if you see the match our batsmen survived 20-60 deliveries. By that time batsman can't be 100% sure of leaving balls on length, but they certainly get fair idea of how it would be. Still you see Rohit Sharma just defending a rising delivery for nothing. That's just poor cricket.

 

Leaving balls(or not leaving) on line is something which can be attributed to ODIs only. There is no other explanation of why batsmen would try to defend a ball outside off when it's sure that they won't get run for it. 

 

So far Smith has shown that he is good to survive on spinning tracks too. Still not sure how he survives.

I agree after 60 deliveries batsmen should have some idea, but still to do it instinctively takes more time to adapt, the ball comes at you at 85+ mph with movement in air, so margin for error is microscopic which makes decision making purely instinctive.

 

Isliye bola tha don't skip practice games, we could have been better prepared in these conditions.

[Trichromatic]

59 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

yes anyone can survive if you drop catch after catch like we did at Pune.

We know Rohit isn't that anyone. Kohli isn't that anyone in ODIs (CT17).

[rkt.india]

17 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

We know Rohit isn't that anyone. Kohli isn't that anyone in ODIs (CT17).

Smith had 5 drops in one innings alone at Pune. Not talking about 1 drop catch here. Sehwag scored a triple in Multan when he got 6 drops. 

[rtmohanlal]

He has got the best method(I won't call that a proper complete technique to counter all conditions & all sorts of bowling by any means). to counter the prevailing generally flat conditions now a days.His supreme hand eye coordination & reflexes make sure his flaws in technique  gets converted into advantage for himself in playing on such flat conditions in general.On the other hand the same method would have been his undoing more often if he played on pitches with more pace, bounce.swing etc etc . 

[waga]

7 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

He has got the best method(I won't call that a proper complete technique to counter all conditions & all sorts of bowling by any means). to counter the prevailing generally flat conditions now a days.His supreme hand eye coordination & reflexes make sure his flaws in technique  gets converted into advantage for himself in playing on such flat conditions in general.On the other hand the same method would have been his undoing more often if he played on pitches with more pace, bounce.swing etc etc . 

he still averages over 50 away which is pretty significantly more than Kohli, Pujara, Root, Kane etc

[MCcricket]

Smith is a freak coz he has remarkable hand speed, reflex, hand eye coordination, look at his fielding to get an idea.He is the Dhoni equivalent of a test cricketer no technique but makes up with speed n reflex.

Once his form n reflex slows he will have a hard time, just need one good bowler to sort him out,his number are unbelievable, his game n success seems to oppose each other.