kubrickian Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Openers look out of sorts. KL Rahul still hasnt established himself yet and largely inconsistent. M Vijay looks like he is past it. Struggling to score big after starts. I reckon this is the end of the road for him and wont get any better as he is quite old. Dhawan and Pujara have big question marks over their ability outside sub continent. Rahane has lost form and regressed a lot and looks like a shadow of the batsmen he was when India last toured SA and Aus. Less said about Rohit the better. He is not test material, let's just put it that way and will never make it as a test batsmen even if you give him a million chances. Only Kohli looks somewhat reliable but as a unit, I wouldnt trust these guys to chase even 150 on this track. Some serious rebuilding has to be done in years to come. India's batting has regressed and has got worse since last overseas tours despite a lot of promise(Vijay, Kohli, Rahane all averaged 50-60 in previous tours) but it has gone all downhill. The selectors, management, captain, coach all have to take collective blame for letting this happen. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 They have not let Rahul settled yet,. How can one establish himself if has not been given the chance to do that by dropping for hack Dhawan. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, rkt.india said: They have not let Rahul settled yet,. How can one establish himself if has not been given the chance to do that by dropping for hack Dhawan. Yeah, whoever plays needs more than 1 match to succeed. 1st match was practice match for Dhawan and now it's practice match for Rahul. Captain isn't letting Pujara settle either. Constantly pressurizing him to try different things and change his approach. Gollum 1 Link to comment
FischerTal Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 this south africa tour was going to be tough anyways. a new team going outside asia for the first time will have to make some internal changes before they settle down.maybe this is why you play practice matches in the first place!!!! Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, FischerTal said: this south africa tour was going to be tough anyways. a new team going outside asia for the first time will have to make some internal changes before they settle down.maybe this is why you play practice matches in the first place!!!! Ishant 80 tests Kohli 65 tests Pujara 56 tests Ashwin 57 tests Vijay 55 tests Rahane 43 tests Shami 29 tests This team has vastly experienced. When are they going to be old? During next overseas cycle, when everyone has played 75-100 tests and some of them closing in for retirement? Most of these players are close to 37-33 and this is their prime phase. Gollum and Captain 2 Link to comment
kubrickian Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Ishant 80 tests Kohli 65 tests Pujara 56 tests Ashwin 57 tests Vijay 55 tests Rahane 43 tests Shami 29 tests This team has vastly experienced. When are they going to be old? During next overseas cycle, when everyone has played 75-100 tests and some of them closing in for retirement? Most of these players are close to 37-33 and this is their prime phase. Yeah this is not a young or new team. If they dont deliver now, they will never be able to do it. I think the big problem is investing in a small group of players and hoping they will do good instead of giving chances to others. Rohit, Dhawan, Pujara never looked like they could score outside SC but they persisted with them because of their performance at home. The idiot selectors, the cheerleader coach and "aggressive" captain put their emotions and gut feel over logic and rationality and hence have only themselves to blame. Gollum 1 Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 This is one of the poorest batting line ups taken on tour in at least the last decade. Its so fragile & no one player inspires confidence across all conditions. Difficult to see how they can score 300+, 250 appears to be the maximum. Bowling looks better than on previous tours but unless there are runs on the board its going to be impossible to win any games. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
FischerTal Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: Ishant 80 tests Kohli 65 tests Pujara 56 tests Ashwin 57 tests Vijay 55 tests Rahane 43 tests Shami 29 tests This team has vastly experienced. When are they going to be old? During next overseas cycle, when everyone has played 75-100 tests and some of them closing in for retirement? Most of these players are close to 37-33 and this is their prime phase. how many times have these guys played overseas? barring ishant, most of them have played overseas only during 2013-2014. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The problem is aside from single innings there is no support. Need 3-4 batsman to fire at the same time. Its not happening. You expect more from somebody like Vijay and Pujara. Even Shami with the ball. GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, FischerTal said: this south africa tour was going to be tough anyways. a new team going outside asia for the first time will have to make some internal changes before they settle down.maybe this is why you play practice matches in the first place!!!! Bhai this is the peak phase of most of our players. Next tour 6-7 of these guys will be close to retirement. Link to comment
chewy Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Openers in this series have looked associate level They have had no answer to the movement and pace of SA bowlers only going to get worse in England Link to comment
chewy Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 There is feel of inevitablility with the openers, just not able complete basic task of seeing out new ball Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2011 all over again only this time the batting looks even worse adi B 1 Link to comment
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