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Just now, Khota said:

I agree . Should be looking at the replacements but I will not give up rahul or Dhawan. Vijay was plain clueless last test.

so was your favorite karthik. Bottomline is their degree of cluelessness varies. Otherwise everyone has been clueless in this series. Technically we lost the test because of Dhawan's drop. You have to factor that in as well. His net contribution was somewhere in the minus

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6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

so was your favorite karthik. Bottomline is their degree of cluelessness varies. Otherwise everyone has been clueless in this series. Technically we lost the test because of Dhawan's drop. You have to factor that in as well. His net contribution was somewhere in the minus

This forum is way too harsh on Karthick. The six he produced was the most clutch shot in Indian cricket. having said that he is still better than Pant but I am very consistent and I would have given him one more game. There is an intense dislike against karthick here.

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33 minutes ago, Khota said:

This forum is way too harsh on Karthick. The six he produced was the most clutch shot in Indian cricket. having said that he is still better than Pant but I am very consistent and I would have given him one more game. There is an intense dislike against karthick here.

I am a big fan of DK too. But did he justify that faith? No. He followed the all too familiar patten which he did all his career. Just a decent 50 surrounded by colossal failures. I gave him chance because he had a consistent domestic run. He is way more clueless now than when he was 19.

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3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I am a big fan of DK too. But did he justify that faith? No. He followed the all too familiar patten which he did all his career. Just a decent 50 surrounded by colossal failures. I gave him chance because he had a consistent domestic run. He is way more clueless now than when he was 19.

He still cannot construct an innings at the highest level.The only thing Nidahas trophy proved is that he can hit shots from ball 1

That is perhaps the best way to use his talent as a number 6 in ODI's that way he can go for it without thinking too much but the team management slotted him at number 4 there and played him in Tests where he needed a different mental capacity,one which he simply doesnt have

 

Unfortunately this might mean the end of his return to ODI's too could have used a stroke maker like him(only in slog overs)

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8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I am a big fan of DK too. But did he justify that faith? No. He followed the all too familiar patten which he did all his career. Just a decent 50 surrounded by colossal failures. I gave him chance because he had a consistent domestic run. He is way more clueless now than when he was 19.

DK is one of India's most talented batsmen. He is amazing against both pacers and spinners.

 

I was a fan of him back in 2013 but then realized he is all flash and no substance.

Edited by sensible-indian

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Just now, GautiMaan said:

He still cannot construct an innings at the highest level.The only thing Nidahas trophy proved is that he can hit shots from ball 1

That is perhaps the best way to use his talent as a number 6 in ODI's that way he can go for it without thinking too much but the team management slotted him at number 4 there and played him in Tests where he needed a different mental capacity,one which he simply doesnt have

 

Unfortunately this might mean the end of his return to ODI's too could have used a stroke maker like him(only in slog overs)

Nope. DK is a choker. He will screw us over in ODIs too.


He should be booted out of all formats.

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2 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Nope. DK is a choker. He will screw us over in ODIs too.


He should be booted out of all formats.

he is not a choker. Put yourself in his shoes. No support, no permanent place, under pressure all the time. DK tanking on BCCI not managing his career properly. He is not that bad.

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Some people do only 2 things on this forum - a) if Dhawan, etc., play 20 runs knock, they claim that they did well, or b) write against youngsters such as Pandya and Pant 

 

:facepalm:

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Lot of people don't appreciate and underestimate Dhawan. I know the reason why some don't like him. That is besides the point but because of his astounding effort India is off to a great start for the first time.

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On Sat Aug 18 2018 at 7:18 PM, Khota said:

Lot of people don't appreciate and underestimate Dhawan. I know the reason why some don't like him. That is besides the point but because of his astounding effort India is off to a great start for the first time.

What's the 'reason' you think people don't like him? 

Please enlighten all of us.

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4 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

What's the 'reason' you think people don't like him? 

Please enlighten all of us.

His 5th test was bad. He was just fine till test 4. I believe he should be benched based on the spineless effort in 5th test.

 

 You can shine the light yourself.

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11 minutes ago, Khota said:

His 5th test was bad. He was just fine till test 4. I believe he should be benched based on the spineless effort in 5th test.

 

 You can shine the light yourself.

2 tours of SA N ENG not even a single 50 , bad only in 5th test :phehe:

He aint a tailender that we shud be happy with 20-30

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

2 tours of SA N ENG not even a single 50 , bad only in 5th test :phehe:

He aint a tailender that we shud be happy with 20-30

He should be compared with openers. Till test 4 he was the highest scorer at that spot. Not excusing his test 5 performance though.

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Just now, Khota said:

He should be compared with openers. Till test 4 he was the highest scorer at that spot. Not excusing his test 5 performance though.

2 tours of Eng/SA ...Rohit Sharma as opener would have fared better 

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21 minutes ago, Khota said:

He should be compared with openers. Till test 4 he was the highest scorer at that spot. Not excusing his test 5 performance though.

As i said all were garbage , so he looked a lil less garbage 

but its about good days . Its not about who is worse on bad days, its about who is best on good days and good players will always be backed

 

Vijay has had good days

Rahul has had it

Dhawan hardly any 

Edited by Ankit_sharma03

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

actually he is even worse then Dhawan

Dhawan atleast has done well in NZ, rohit has been 0 

I said Rohit as opener in tests... you never know

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5 minutes ago, diga said:

I said Rohit as opener in tests... you never know

 

Look at this , u think this guy will do well in test cricket and this was when is reflexes were better now he is a fatty

Now u can say thats dale steyn , check this yr IPL deepak chahar did the same 

 

If anyone is thinking about sehwag example, he got a 100 on his debut in SA at 6 to......rohit doesnt even have a single 50 in 2 tours of SA 

 

He was struggling agianst Dala in Odi in SA.....philander, Steyn, rabadda wud have eaten him alive

 

Edited by Ankit_sharma03

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39 minutes ago, Khota said:

His 5th test was bad. He was just fine till test 4. I believe he should be benched based on the spineless effort in 5th test.

 

 You can shine the light yourself.

You didn't mention the reason though.

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Look at this , u think this guy will do well in test cricket and this was when is reflexes were better now he is a fatty

Now u can say thats dale steyn , check this yr IPL deepak chahar did the same 

 

If anyone is thinking about sehwag example, he got a 100 on his debut in SA at 6 to......rohit doesnt even have a single 50 in 2 tours of SA 

 

He was struggling agianst Dala in Odi in SA.....philander, Steyn, rabadda wud have eaten him alive

I agree.. Rohit will never cut it in test cricket. The comparision was against Dhawan the opener. Rohit might have atleast got 1 50 atleast in umpteen attempts 

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6 minutes ago, diga said:

I agree.. Rohit will never cut it in test cricket. The comparision was against Dhawan the opener. Rohit might have atleast got 1 50 atleast in umpteen attempts 

Dhawan has done something in test cricket

Rohit hasnt even done that . Dhawan was our best batsman in NZ

Rohit avg is lower then ashwin, bbhuvi...........atleast their shud be something to back him

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OP is a fan of Dhawan and Karthik. Both of them performed absymissally:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team England remove England from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date between 11 Sep 2017 and 11 Sep 2018 remove between 11 Sep 2017 and 11 Sep 2018 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 17 of 17   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
RA Jadeja 1 2 1 99 86* 99.00 202 49.00 0 1 0 13 1 investigate this query
V Kohli 5 10 0 593 149 59.30 1025 57.85 2 3 1 67 1 investigate this query
CA Pujara 4 8 1 278 132* 39.71 726 38.29 1 1 1 33 0 investigate this query
KL Rahul 5 10 0 299 149 29.90 450 66.44 1 0 1 44 1 investigate this query
GH Vihari 1 2 0 56 56 28.00 130 43.07 0 1 1 7 1 investigate this query
RR Pant 3 6 0 162 114 27.00 252 64.28 1 0 1 20 6 investigate this query
AM Rahane 5 10 0 257 81 25.70 639 40.21 0 2 1 27 0 investigate this query
HH Pandya 4 8 1 164 52* 23.42 288 56.94 0 1 1 26 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 4 8 2 126 33* 21.00 177 71.18 0 0 0 19 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 4 8 0 162 44 20.25 292 55.47 0 0 0 23 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 2 4 0 26 20 6.50 75 34.66 0 0 2 4 0 investigate this query
KD Karthik 2 4 0 21 20 5.25 58 36.20 0 0 2 2 0 investigate this query

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11 minutes ago, zen said:

OP is a fan of Dhawan and Karthik. Both of them performed absymissally:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team England remove England from query
Home or away away (home of opposition) remove away (home of opposition) from query
Start of match date between 11 Sep 2017 and 11 Sep 2018 remove between 11 Sep 2017 and 11 Sep 2018 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 17 of 17   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
RA Jadeja 1 2 1 99 86* 99.00 202 49.00 0 1 0 13 1 investigate this query
V Kohli 5 10 0 593 149 59.30 1025 57.85 2 3 1 67 1 investigate this query
CA Pujara 4 8 1 278 132* 39.71 726 38.29 1 1 1 33 0 investigate this query
KL Rahul 5 10 0 299 149 29.90 450 66.44 1 0 1 44 1 investigate this query
GH Vihari 1 2 0 56 56 28.00 130 43.07 0 1 1 7 1 investigate this query
RR Pant 3 6 0 162 114 27.00 252 64.28 1 0 1 20 6 investigate this query
AM Rahane 5 10 0 257 81 25.70 639 40.21 0 2 1 27 0 investigate this query
HH Pandya 4 8 1 164 52* 23.42 288 56.94 0 1 1 26 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 4 8 2 126 33* 21.00 177 71.18 0 0 0 19 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 4 8 0 162 44 20.25 292 55.47 0 0 0 23 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 2 4 0 26 20 6.50 75 34.66 0 0 2 4 0 investigate this query
KD Karthik 2 4 0 21 20 5.25 58 36.20 0 0 2 2 0 investigate this query

Looks like Vijay beat Karthik’s average and that too by only 1.25% just to rub it in :laugh1:

Edited by Global.Baba

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On 8/18/2018 at 7:18 PM, Khota said:

Lot of people don't appreciate and underestimate Dhawan. I know the reason why some don't like him. That is besides the point but because of his astounding effort India is off to a great start for the first time.

:hehe:

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6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

As i said all were garbage , so he looked a lil less garbage 

but its about good days . Its not about who is worse on bad days, its about who is best on good days and good players will always be backed

 

Vijay has had good days

Rahul has had it

Dhawan hardly any 

Call it what you may but for 4 tests he was better. Moving forward it is Rahul and aggarwal for me till those two guys pick up their game.

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45 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Why ? He can be a match winner in subcontinent scoring runs at brisk rate. He shouldn't be played in SEnA countries though.

Why not play young players in subcontinet, why to deny them home conditions

Shaw n Mayank plays at a very good pace and playing in only sena countries and maintaining a good avg is tough .......most players stats is helped by home conditions 

 

and btw he failed against Sa at home to which was a good team

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