vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) India needs to groom a bowler who can lead the attack and others follow suit. Kapil, Srinath later Zaheer. They all led the attack. Rightnow there is no leader for the pack. Chopping and changing randomly leads to bowlers not operating as unit. Bhuvaneswar appeared to be the closest to lead the attack as he is only one who shows reasonable consistency. He has upped his pace. Added a bit more variation. Sadly an unfit Shami, inexperienced Bumrah and Ishant who wants to retires as support bowler is all we have now. This is where dropping of Bhuvi becomes a huge factor. He should be permanent. With his batting skills India could have even posted more runs in the first innings. If KOhli wants to win overseas he needs a main bowler around whom others should thrive. Bhuvi is the only option we have. He is no Zaheer khan. But he should be trusted with responsbility of helping other fast bowlers feed of each other. Edited January 17, 2018 by vvvslaxman saik and beetle 2 Link to comment
Khota Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 It is hard to get one lead bowler sometime. India has 5 pace bowler who are more or less the same so rotation is the best thing to work it out. Unfortunately it is what it is. Link to comment
New guy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fast bowlers also hunt in pairs. Chopping and changing contstant means we don't get such pairs or sustained pressure. So we always end up with one bowler taking wickets while others go missing. Link to comment
adi B Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 For kohli it's ishant lol beetle 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, New guy said: Fast bowlers also hunt in pairs. Chopping and changing contstant means we don't get such pairs or sustained pressure. So we always end up with one bowler taking wickets while others go missing. He has screwed every single player top to bottom. Nobody is confident they will play the next test. beetle 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The irony is despite not having a hungry youngster waiting to take the spot of an existing player,the existing players are still insecure must be some record Rightarmfast and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Bhuvi is the best fast bowler in India.... even though I genuinely mean it @New guy @beetle waiting for the incoming upvote...don’t let me down!!! Laaloo, beetle, vvvslaxman and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He plays Ishant for his non-existent bounce. Leader of the attack. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Shami has all ingredients to be a lead Pacers but he has started bowling like Yadav now as he is dropped. You don't know which side of the bed he has woken up. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: Shami has all ingredients to be a lead Pacers but he has started bowling like Yadav now as he is dropped. You don't know which side of the bed he has woken up. Shami always has iffy fitness. He can never be like Zak was. Zak once bowled 13 overs in a row with same intensity in NZ. County cricket changed him a lot. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Shami always has iffy fitness. He can never be like Zak was. Zak once bowled 13 overs in a row with same intensity in NZ. County cricket changed him a lot. Zak is the most overrated bowler we had in test. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 IMO, there is no need. The current crop is good enough. But according to the management Ishant is the lead. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, rkt.india said: Zak is the most overrated bowler we had in test. Come on man. He won us tests in England, SA. NZ. Even when we had issue against BD he rolled them over. His dismissal of Graeme smith was always a sight to watch. He also guided lot of guys as "bowling captain". Significant bowler for India in the mid 2000s. In 2010 he world no.3 fast bowler. Dada's Army 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Zak is the most overrated bowler we had in test. He is a bigger proven test match winner bar Ishant in the current line up of fast bowlers we have. As a unit this fast bowling attack is the best we ever had,but so far none of them have shown the capacity to produce match winning spells out of nowhere. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Come on man. He won us tests in England, SA. NZ. Even when we had issue against BD he rolled them over. His dismissal of Graeme smith was always a sight to watch. He also guided lot of guys as "bowling captain". Significant bowler for India in the mid 2000s. In 2010 he world no.3 fast bowler. I didn't say he was not good. He was good in patches but highly overrated because he always lacked the stamina to sustain intensity and at times, couldn't rise to the occasion. He was great by Indian standards. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I didn't say he was not good. He was good in patches but highly overrated because he always lacked the stamina to sustain intensity and at times, couldn't rise to the occasion. He was great by Indian standards. That was during chappel days. Prior to his county stint. He became a change bowler since then. I always had faith in him to provide breakthrough Link to comment
speedheat Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Zak was overrated fast bowler in testmatches, hype was created coz of has success vs gream smith, zak averages 47 vs pak, 36 vs ssa, 38 vs SL and 36 vs Australia and all these teams had some of the best testmatch batters in his era, current bowling attack is the best we have, anyone can lead it except ishant sharma, umesh was the leader from sa 2015 to Aus 2017, its bhuvis turn now. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 There is only 1 leader in this team. The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I agree with OP. There has to be leader of bowling attack. Posted the same on the performance of bowlers thread as well. Previous century we had the leaders of bowling attack. Actually this lot is better skill wise than previous one as a whole unit, but they either lose form or get injured. Kohlis tactics of dropping highest wicket taker is neither allowing to build a strong bowling unit. Like we had a concept of Fab 4 in batting why can't we have it in bowling. Nobody dropped Ganguly because he could not play on leg side, nobody criticized David for being rock in Tests. Here Chet gets crucified for playing slow, Bhuvi gets dropped after picking most wickets. How will the core team build. The strategy in itself is missing. It is not even horses for courses approach, is it? It's like he feels to do some change he does it. Some weird justification is given. Such logic was not there when we had Fab4 unless for an exception. Seems madness as far as team strategy is considered. There is absolutely no accountability for losses due to ridiculous decision making. Edited January 17, 2018 by Straight Drive beetle 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: That was during chappel days. Prior to his county stint. He became a change bowler since then. I always had faith in him to provide breakthrough i am only talking about after county stint. he had developed as a bowler but he had not improved his fitness to international standards. Link to comment
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