Trichromatic Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Quote India captain Virat Kohli looked visibly disappointed after his team lost the second Test match at Centurion and said that his team had let the advantage slip out of their hands, which is not acceptable from a team's point of view. South Africa have taken an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-match Test series and Kohli pulled up his team-mates for repeated mistakes in the first two Tests. A fiery press conference saw Kohli arguing with reporters on a couple of questions. "At the end of the day one team has to lose. As a team you always try to win. You can accept defeat but not the way we played, the way we let the advantage slip out of our hands, which is not acceptable from a team's point of view," a visibly agitated Kohli said after the 135-run drubbing in the second Test. "So many soft dismissals hurt us a lot. Because you work so hard, prepare for a match, get into good situations, shift the game towards you, and then the momentum shifts because of these mistakes. "We have repeated these mistakes in both matches. That feels very bad as a team," he said. Kohli said the players need to question themselves on what went wrong for them. "We have not come here to play the way we have done. I'm not going to sit here and try to comfort anyone. We need to be hard on ourselves. We need to ask ourselves if we are giving 120 per cent for the team every time we bowl a ball or play a ball or field a ball. "We should be reflecting on all our decision-making and all the actions that we have made in this game and the previous game and act upon them. Individuals have to sit and reflect on these things themselves. They do it, I am not saying they don't reflect on it. We are definitely going to lay out these things in the open," said Kohli. He said the team management will ask the players to be honest about what they felt at particular stages of a game. "The mistakes that we made have been really about not putting attention to detail at important stages of the game. It is something we definitely need to take into account and sit down and discuss as a team," he said. While the bowlers did alright, batting let the team down heavily in both Tests. Kohli came down hard on his batsmen for not spending enough time at the crease. "Partnerships of 60s and 70s are not good enough to win Test matches. You need guys to put their heads down when the partnerships has gone to 60 and 70 and try to make it into 100 or 150 to give the team the best chance of winning a Test match or being in a solid position. "When you are batting, you want to make big 100s and not get out so that the team benefits from that. When we did well in Australia, we got 450 runs every first innings but our partnerships were massive. That is something we haven't repeated here. "South Africa did not have many partnerships, but whatever they had, one big partnership was always there and that was the key to them consolidating those situations and they deserved to win the series," he added. India had left out Shikhar Dhawan and Bhuvneshwar Kumar from second Test. Ajinkya Rahane too did not get a look in. Parthiv Patel for Wriddhiman Saha was the only forced change. Asked if he had made the best use of the resources available to him, Kohli said, "When something does not work, obviously it's going to be spoken against. We are pretty used to that. We as a team don't think of what the opinion going around is. "A lot was spoken about Bhuvi but (Mohd) Shami performed in this game. So now no one is talking about that. It's all about whoever goes out on the field and performs. We obviously look at the conditions and we decide as a management group and the captain myself sitting together, that what is the best eleven that we can take on the field. "And then we don't sit back and think 'Oh we could have done that or we should have done that'. You make one decision and you back it," he said. Apart from Kohli, no other Indian batsman crossed the 50 mark with Rohit Sharma's 47 runs being the second highest across both innings at Centurion. Asked if there was too much dependency on him, Kohli said, "I don't think so. No one in the change room thinks like that. There are 11 guys in the field, I try to do my best and so does everyone else. "Sometimes another batsman plays through the innings but that doesn't mean that they are too dependent on that particular player. So, everyone has contributed for the team at different times, you can't win games of cricket with one or two people." "Everyone has done well in the past and that's why we have done well, it just has not been able to come well together here." India did not have match practice before this series and Test specialists also did not travel in advance. But Kohli did not agree that overseas conditions had hampered this team's performance in any manner. "I don't believe in that. We had a result in three days in Cape Town and we had no complaints. We enjoyed the pitch because we had an equal chance of winning the game there. We were not good enough to do that, that's a different thing. "But it was not like we were outplayed. We had opportunities in both the games, and that's probably the smallest positive that we can think of at this moment. We are not complaining about pitches, we are not complaining about conditions," Kohli said. "In Test cricket, it does not matter where you are playing. Teams have beaten us at home at times but these conditions (at Centurion) are something that we are used to playing at and we should have certainly done better than what have. "South Africa collectively were a much better team than us regardless of pitches we played on. Their bowlers put relentless pressure on us. As a batting unit, after losing a few wickets, they would string in a partnership. They showed more character than us," he signed off. https://sports.ndtv.com/south-africa-vs-india-2018/india-vs-south-africa-virat-kohli-questions-team-commitment-after-series-loss-1801390 Link to comment
Khota Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Bowling was not the problem. It was batting. For Indian batting to do well the opening stand has to do well. Vijay was the most consistent failure and then everyone fell like dominoes. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Some excellent points. Ego is what has brought him here. GoldenSun and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 "A lot was spoken about Bhuvi but (Mohd) Shami performed in this game. So now no one is talking about that. It's all about whoever goes out on the field and performs. We obviously look at the conditions and we decide as a management group and the captain myself sitting together, that what is the best eleven that we can take on the field. This means the fight is between Shami and Bhuvi for the 3rd seamer spot and Ishant is permanent fixture. beetle, Prince_, sergio04 and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BeautifulGame said: This means the fight is between Shami and Bhuvi for the 3rd seamer spot and Ishant is permanent fixture. Yeah it was confusing. I thought we dropped our best bowler to make way for our spearhead. If it's between Shami and Bhuvi then that's no good. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Some excellent points. Ego is what has brought him here. Now only if he can get the team right. We had a really good chance in this series had we gotten the combinations right from the first test but alas. Another opportunity missed Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: This means the fight is between Shami and Bhuvi for the 3rd seamer spot and Ishant is permanent fixture. Kohli has lifetime commitments with sharmas. just like anushka bhabhi. SK_IH and zen 1 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Looking at this post, he seems to be poised but as a captain it's better not to get riled up. One thing common between him and Dhoni is that they're stubborn in their decision making. They go to any lengths to prove that what they made is the right decision. raki05 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Now only if he can get the team right. We had a really good chance in this series had we gotten the combinations right from the first test but alas. Another opportunity missed And taken BCCI offer to arrive early to SA. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 So Bhuvi will get next game in place of Shami, that seems to be the logic, bench the bowler who has done well. Dada's Army 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: This means the fight is between Shami and Bhuvi for the 3rd seamer spot and Ishant is permanent fixture. TBH, before the match started most of us would have been happy if Shami was replaced by Ishant. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) You can't ask for team's commitment, when you are not committed to them. At the moment, only Kohli and Ashwin are shoe-ins to the test team. Everybody else is shaken out of the confidence to be sure of their place in the team. When the vice-captain Rahane gets dropped twice after winning a series deciding test match, over a non-existent talent, then what should others feel? Edited January 17, 2018 by coffee_rules Sidhoni, Gollum, beetle and 5 others 8 Link to comment
zen Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The series is gone. Made some dumb mistakes. Now might as well play the ODI players to get some practise Link to comment
Sachinism Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's not wrong in the sense that we let ourselves down. We can all fault the selection, but there is no guarantee whoever played would've made a result changing impact. The fact is, all the guys are capable and they didn't show up. There were soft dismissals, dropped catches, and constant releasing of pressure. Virat himself should also be criticised for his failings in this match raki05 1 Link to comment
adi B Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 This tour has been a disaster ,from scheduling to pratcie matches to silly team selections but if kohli and management sit down and think of these points and how they went wrong ,we can improve going forward but for that he needs to man up and accept his mistakes.will He?? raki05, Gollum and beetle 3 Link to comment
adi B Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: You can't ask for team's commitment, when you are not committed to them. At the moment, only Kohli and Ashwin are shoe-ins to the test team. Everybody else is shaken out of the confidence to be sure of their place in the team. When the vice-captain Rahane gets dropped twice after winning a series deciding test match, over a non-existent talent, then what should others feel? True. Link to comment
Popular Post New guy Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 Team members will not be commited to someone who is not commited to them. You are the best performer one game and dropped the next and missing out on match money. The unfortunate thing will be that now Kohli will have a sour spot about Bhuvi because of no fault of the later adi B, zen, Turning_track and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment
New guy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Khota said: Bowling was not the problem. It was batting. For Indian batting to do well the opening stand has to do well. Vijay was the most consistent failure and then everyone fell like dominoes. As I said in the other thread, taking wickets up front was a big problem for us. All three of our bowlers were good with the old ball. Only Bumrah picked wickets upfront and only in second innings. When your opposition is constantly 144 for 2 or 120 for 2, match is already lost. After that even if you take 7 wickets for 89 as India did in the first innings, the opposition has already scored over 300 by then. Which on such pitches is still a big score Edited January 17, 2018 by New guy Link to comment
Khota Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, New guy said: As I said in the other thread, taking wickets up front was a big problem for us. All three of our bowlers were good with the old ball. Only Bumrah picked wickets upfront and only in second innings. When your opposition is constantly 144 for 2 or 120 for 2, match is already lost. After that even if you take 7 wickets for 89 as India did in the first innings, the opposition has already scored over 300 by then. Which on such pitches is still a big score If other team posts around 300 you should be able to win the game. Every batsman failed. Link to comment
shortbread Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 54 minutes ago, Khota said: Bowling was not the problem. It was batting. For Indian batting to do well the opening stand has to do well. Vijay was the most consistent failure and then everyone fell like dominoes. What a load of tosh, Vijay scored more in the first innings that Dhawans two innings put together. He's coming back from injury, prior to which he was India's best opener. The guy is way better than KL and Dhawan, which isnt saying a lot. he used to have very good discipline ouside the off stump but seems to have lost it. Link to comment
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